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Re: Question: Why No Station at 188th Street/Hillside Avenue?

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Aug 10 15:31:08 2017, in response to Re: Question: Why No Station at 188th Street/Hillside Avenue?, posted by Joe V on Thu Aug 10 13:28:02 2017.

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I think Nassau County would turn their Hillside Av buses back as far east as they dare. They would not lose a wink of sleep of those people had to transfer again to get to Sutphin Blvd area.

Leaving aside the causes of Nassau's budget problems, requiring people to make a (usually free) transfer to the subway in a more eastern location sounds relatively tolerable if it helps avoid the entire cutting of service elsewhere in the county. I don't know for sure, but it would call for a survey of how many people are going for the subway (west of Jamaica) versus how many actually want Jamaica or a local bus therein. If you have a good majority going for the subway anyway, at least at a certain time of day, it may not be cost effective for the County to be sending buses all the way into Jamaica, while creating "transit deserts" elsewhere.

And it is only because the F train doesn't really cut through Jamaica centrally that I think those bound for Jamaica itself should be considered. If the F was within convenient walking distance for all of Downtown Jamaica, I would say that there is no reason (not counting a suitable place to relay) for Nassau buses to go all the way in without the support of an overwhelming majority.

Not, of course, that the purpose of extending the NYC subway is to help out Nassau's bus system.

As it was, the N4 was cut back south from Hillside & 169th to Archer & around 160th.

This sounds more like a rerouting than a cutback to me. How would people today react if it reverted back to Hillside / 169th, now that there is no J train at 168th?

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