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Re: 2 photos of the Park St (Ave) el in Brooklyn

Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Sun Jul 9 20:33:11 2017, in response to Re: 2 photos of the Park St (Ave) el in Brooklyn, posted by VictorM on Sun Jul 9 08:17:32 2017.

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Hello Victor

THANKS for your additional detailed observations !

I think you may be right -- I cross checked closely & repeatedly the 1941 rooftop view photo (and building count) and the 1924 aerial view.

It appears that the CORNER building at the corner of Adams & Washington Streets (across from the long north wall of the Sands St Head House) seen plainly in the 1924 aerial photo, -its shorter facade ran parallel to Washington St.- was already torn down, gone, by the time of that 1941 photo. Assuming you are correct, which I think you may be, the low building in the 1941 photo is the - what I suspect is an - early electrical substation for the BRT-BMT.

NOTE: I didn't realize that ADAMS STREET was re-located back in 1954-55 north of its original location - the original Adams street is partly buried along the southerly Brooklyn bound lane in the new (1954-55 BUILT) on-off ramps of the Bklyn Bridge !! THEREFORE, my ARTWORK showing the yellow lines for the 2 track Myrtle-Lex EL over "Adams Street" is INCORRECT on my original map-drawing. I have CORRECTED that EL location on a new version !

HERE IS THE CORRECTED and improved VERSION BELOW - for those who may have copy saved my original one --- discard it and use, save. THIS ONE !





ALSO NOTE - I Google-image-"moved" around at street level to the rear of the building and I see a few portable (ie: like small Jersey Barrier roadway style) low barricades along the sidewalk line...one that has in black letters NYCT and other are stencil-lettered NYCTA !! Obviously NY transit related and installed. Also you can see a former long wide, tall arched doorway opening that was long ago bricked up but it's lineage is plainly visible !

It also appears that the higher walls above the roof tar-paper level were lowered -- probably in rebuilding the roof and modernizing the building - these brick walls (safety walls for employees doing roof maintenance) appear somewhat higher in the 1941 photo showing that building...than in the present aerial views from Google.

I now believe this "was" probably a BRT - later BMT substation and probably was feeders-connected with the BRT Myrtle-Lex EL along Sands Street and the EL and trolley power substation for the Sands Street Trolley and El tracks.

This may have been the substation referred to in old BRT related articles about the BRT Park-Hudson-York EL Ferry branch, that, even tho it had 3rd rail installed in 1899, it operated from 1900 thru 1905 as a steam engine powered 2 car EL train shuttle from Navy St Station (Myrtle EL) to the Ferry Terminal Station under, against the east Anchor Pier of the Brooklyn Bridge. The reason stated is that the nearby POWER SUBSTATION was not capable of powering that section of EL along with the Myrtle El, Sands Street Complex and streetcars in that Sands Street area.

The Brooklyn Bridge as I previously stated, had its OWN separate power station for its cable trains and electric lights, etc., - and later electric-motorized cable trains -- located within the stone walls under the higher portion of the Brooklyn Approach to the Bridge.

So I feel we all collectively, thanks to Randy-O's initial observation, have uncovered something here - a likely surviving relic from the BRT-BMT Sands Street EL and Trolley complex operations. I wonder if it is used for the BMT Subways in the area at this time? Or is it an electrical substation at all at this time ?

Regards - Joe F

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