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Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17)

Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Wed Apr 26 20:06:36 2017, in response to Re: East 180th Street (4/10/17), posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Wed Apr 26 19:49:15 2017.

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Hello Again Steve ----

Well, my date was off a bit for that Sperry Rail Move -it was IN 1972, (NOT 1974-75...heh, sorry !)

-- here is the full info to me from my files copy pasted directly from former NHRR Engineer Noel Weaver, fellow NHRR-NYW&B Historian pal
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By Noel Weaver, former NHRR Engineer - Sat Aug 01, 2009

The New York, Westchester and Boston right of way ended at 174th Street, West Farms at the junction point of the New
Haven's Harlem River Branch. For a long time the NYW&B trains below that point were shown in the NHRR employee timetable although in later years they appeared in the NYW&B employee timetable.

When the line was sold to the City of New York, it included only the entire right of way from 174th Street north to the city line (at Bronx / Mt.Vernon county line) but there was no need for passenger service below 180th Street in those days nor today either.

A track connection was maintained for many years in order to accomplish rail deliveries of stone, materials and subway cars.
The NHRR used to haul stone out of Connecticut in special hopper cars lettered for the NYCTA and a yard job out of Oak Point would shove them up that connection and it was a tough move, upgrade on the ex-NYW&B track and always slippery rail conditions. If we had a lot of cars, sometimes two crews would have to doublehead the move.

On May 11, 1972 I was called to pilot SRS car 402 from Penn Station to 180th Street using the connection at 174th Street.
At that time the switch off the Hell Gate NHRR Main Line was spiked and clamped out of service so they had to call out a M of W crew
to take care of the switch for us.

The switch was physically removed and the link disconnected very soon after this move, and it is not likely that this connection was ever used again after the above SRS move. Portions if not all of the 4-track embankment and steel trestle bridge work on this NHRR- to NYW&B connection are removed today (2009).

Noel Weaver (NHRR & PC ENGINEER)
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The ex-NYW&B RR 4-track earthern & gravel embankment from E. 174th Street to a bit south of E.177th St bridge, and steel trestle work from there north to Loretto Street, were removed in gradual stages, between 2005 and 2007 approximately.

And As I stated and Noel confirmed also, NY CITY bought the entire NYW&B R-o-W from E.174th St junction north to the Bronx-Mt Vernon county line.

Regards - Joe F



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