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Re: Terminals at Sands St. station, 1936

Posted by Express Rider on Tue Sep 20 07:22:57 2016, in response to Re: Terminals at Sands St. station, 1936, posted by Dave on Mon Sep 19 09:43:59 2016.

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Here is a URL for a Sands St. station diagram below that can help to understand the layout of the complex. It was posted in subchat awhile back.

http://www.catskillarchive.com/rrextra/bbterm09.jpg

If you have, or can find Greller's first book, "The Brooklyn Elevated," towards the end of the book, there's an interior shot of Sands St. from one of the two lower platforms. The stairways to the loop platforms, appear to go up to an intermediate level; to what was, called a "gallery" (a walkway), in the diagram, between the arriving and departing loop platforms.

Also, on the Kings County terminal platform (station on the stub to Fulton Ferry), there is a wide and massive enclosed walkway between those platforms and the Sands St. station
URL for photo:

http://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/fileSendAction/fcType/0/fcOid/15790232512581590/filePointer/44510793833213976/fodoid/44510793833213968/imageType/MEDIUM/inlineImage/true/img_132302.jpg


From the diagram it looks like this transfer walkway from the KC terminal station, enters Sands St. passes over the outbound lower level track to connect with the intermediate level gallery. If this arrangement is correct, transfer passengers, entering Sands St. station from the walkway, could either walk straight ahead to the intermediate level gallery, for stairs up to the loop platforms, or turn right or left to go downstairs to the main platforms for Fulton St., Myrtle Ave., & Lexington Ave. trains.

I was also was never completely clear on what were the inbound and outbound trolley arrangements at Sands St. If they stopped at the station, where were these platforms?
Googling for images, I found this first photo of the inbound trolley tracks.
URL:

http://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/fileSendAction/fcType/0/fcOid/15790232512581590/filePointer/43665862757570107/fodoid/43665862757570096/imageType/LARGE/inlineImage/true/Sands%2520street%2520from%2520the%2520northwest%2520side.jpg

So, for Manhattan bound trolleys, there was no platform at Sands street. The trolley just ramped on a row outside the station, towards the approach to the bridge.

The outbound trolley, from Manhattan did have a station stop at Sands St. which looks like the outermost platform and its track, that is next to the outbound elevated track to the left of its platform (looking back towards the city).
URL:

http://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/fileSendAction/fcType/0/fcOid/15790232512581590/filePointer/44510793461276276/fodoid/44510793461276267/imageType/MEDIUM/inlineImage/true/sands%25204.jpg

One would think that there would have been BRT company photos (glass plate negatives) taken of various interior views of Sands St. which would better explain it - if they were made at all, they are long gone probably.

Loop platform interior photos must be very rare, as well as photos of the fare control area, below the lower level elevated platforms - these would probably show stairways to the outbound trolley platform outside of the fare control area, beyond the turnstiles or punch ticket control points years earlier.

So yes, Sands St. station in 1936 would have been one hell of an interesting place to explore!

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