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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue May 3 22:31:32 2016, in response to Re: (M) train during (L) tunnel closure, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon May 2 23:42:44 2016. BIG difference between me and 33rd Street:33rd Street was looking at it from a purely selfish standpoint in regards of combining the (M) and (V) into the current (M) because he as I remember happened to live near the 2nd Avenue station that was the (V) terminal, so he'd get an empty train as opposed to an (F) that was jammed. What I'm looking at here takes into account other factors: The notorious conga line at 71-Continental: In a perfect world, you can have 13-15 (M) trains per hour go to 71-Continental at all times, however, there is that small problem known as the conga line that will only get worse with additional (M) trains. Add to that the added potential for unruly passengers not wanting to get off at 71-Continental and the line could be even worse. Court Square handling the crush of displaced (L) riders: We all know for many (L) riders, the (G) at Lorimer to Court Square is going to be the preferred option since you can get the (E), (M) and (7) there. The problem is, those lines by the time you get to Court Square are likely jammed with those who take other lines normally and crowding will likely be a major issue there. These two factors were why I was looking at adding OOS transfers to the (G) at Broadway (for the J/M/Z) and at Fulton Street for the 2/3/4/5/B/D/N/Q/R at Atlantic Avenue-Barclays Center, encouraging passengers to take the (G) to either of those locations OR taking the (G) to Hoyt-Schermerhorn and switching there to the A/C (especially if looking for lower Manhattan). The two factors combined are also why I would be looking at having the (G), (M) and (R) all go to 179 via QB local (except late nights when all three would go to 71-Continetal) while the (F) is QB express all the way (except late nights) since (G) passengers then would have the option of transferring to the (E), (M) or (R) at Queens Plaza (with the (R) during the (L) shutdown being 24/7 to 71-Continental_ or via a new OOS transfer the (N), (W) and (7) at Queensboro Plaza. Not idea, but being able to split the (G) passengers up between Court Square and Queens Plaza (and to a lesser extent Queensboro Plaza) is worth sending the G/M/R all to 179 (except late nights when it would be to 71-Continental). Weekend CBTC Work on Queens Boulevard: This is the BIG sticky point as I doubt the MTA can delay CBTC work on QB because of the (L) shutdown because that could have a major ripple effect with future CBTC projects down the road. That likely means there will be times where on weekends only one track is available in one or both directions for the (E), (F) and (R), meaning no room then for the (G) that would have to be cut to Court Square or the (M) that would need most likely a Manhattan terminal other than Essex to terminate. As noted, my original idea was to have the (M) terminate at 96th/2nd on weekends when QB was unavailable so displaced (L) riders have direct 6th Avenue service at Myrtle-Wyckoff no matter what, however, that brings me to..... Politics: We already have heard the Manhattan Borough President insist on keeping the (L) in Manhattan running during the tunnel shutdown between 1st and 8th Avenue due to many in that part of Manhattan (particularly those east of Avenue A as well as those who live in Stuvessanttown, most notably Peter Cooper Village) actually using the (L) as the 14th Street Crosstown along with more likely the bigger concern of gridlock that could be there and have ripple effects throughout Manhattan unless possibly draconian restrictions on non-essential vehicles being in the area was put in effect. If my original idea of the (M) to 96th/2nd on weekends due to CBTC took effect, as was noted by others there are those on the upper east side (an area with considerable political clout) who would demand such also be done on weekdays). That was why I came up with the M/T split with the (M) running as it does now with the (T) supplementing it on weekdays (max of 5-7 TPH to 96th/2nd weekdays, even at peak hours) and the (T) late nights (3-5 TPH, 4-6 TPH late Friday and Saturday) and weekends (7-9 TPH) being the line between Metropolitan and 96th/2nd. I'm not looking at just one factor when I do this. |
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