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Re: M to West 4th on Weekends/Late Nights

Posted by Michael549 on Wed Jun 24 13:52:39 2015, in response to Re: M to West 4th on Weekends/Late Nights, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jun 24 11:34:27 2015.

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From a previous message:

"You want to put even more people on the L?"

Maybe I was not clear. I confess that I can be wordy and long-winded.

I do not necessarily WANT to "do" anything!

a) I do not believe that the D-train should be made local along Central Park West (as some have proposed) because the D-train is carrying/servicing a huge amount of riders on its Bronx segment that be would inconvenienced by taking on the additional local stations!

Why make the longer distance-higher ridership route take on more local stations? Often the longer distance routes tend to run express in Manhattan. This is a case of leaving "well enough" alone!

b) I do not believe that extending the M-train (as some have proposed) to the West 4th Street station on weekends would benefit many riders. I believe that such an operation would negatively affect the higher ridership carrying D and F trains.

I argue that the fewer numbers of M-train riders might benefit, but the HUGE numbers of D and F trains would be negatively impacted. This is a case of leaving "well enough" alone!

Both the D-train and the F-train are straight-railed through Sixth Avenue. What is efficient about mixing these trains? What is efficient about adding a short-turned shuttle that means that these trains will now cross the paths of other trains. This is a case of leaving "well enough" alone!

c) I have no problem with the idea that the weekend M-train should travel to Chambers Street, or at least to Essex Street.

Some opposed the weekend M-train to Chambers Street as the "orange train" on the "brown segment" confusing riders. The M-train to Chambers Street is a "historical pattern." Transferring at Essex/Delancey Street is also a "historical pattern." Neither of these should be "big deal". I'd run the "weekend Brown-M train" if it were to travel to/from Chambers Street to help J/M riders, while not interfering with other riders.

d) I can see the argument that many M-train riders in Brooklyn/Queens segment probably transfer to/from the L-train at Myrtle-Wyckoff Avenues. I suppose that such transfers have been going on for decades, for example when the M-train was a whole weekend shuttle operation.

The operations of the L-train were not the focus of the original message. I'm delighted that the L-train has much higher ridership and frequent service. I remember the days on the L-train when for multiple weekends and late nights the service was disrupted repeatedly for months on end. I remember the series of bus substitutions and other major travel headaches. I remember when the TA would report that local service would be running every 24 minutes between trains, and the shuttle buses did not show up. The L-train becoming a highly used beneficial line to me is a plus!

Just my thoughts.
Mike


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