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Re: M to West 4th on Weekends/Late Nights

Posted by Michael549 on Thu Jun 18 20:05:29 2015, in response to Re: M to West 4th on Weekends/Late Nights, posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 18 18:29:25 2015.

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In my previous message, I cited two stations, and now I will cite three stations - DeKalb Avenue.

I will detail the historical train switch problems at the Brighton Beach-BMT, and 96th Street-IRT subway stations - as the past informing the present or the proposed. Why repeat such mistakes?

During the late 1960's and up to the mid-1970's - the TA operated three services out of the Brighton Beach subway station, the rush hours only QB (Brighton Beach to 57th Street-Seventh Avenue), the normal hours QJ (from 168th Street-Jamaica to Brighton Beach), and the full-time D train (from 205th Street to Coney Island). The QB and QJ trains were the Brighton local trains, while the D-train was the normal hours express route - namely express from 6am to 8pm, Monday to Friday.

See http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/img/maps/calcagno-1967-system.gif

These routes required the chris-crossing of QB and QJ local trains to the center express tracks for the terminate and relay operation at Brighton Beach. As well as the switching of D-trains both to and from the local and express tracks at the Brighton Beach station. Basically the two sets of train routes had to cross each other - meaning train delays and tie-ups.

By or around 1968 the TA remedied the problem by changing the normal hours terminal of the D-train to Brighton Beach, and changing the terminals of the QB and QJ local trains to Coney Island.

This is similar to the debate in all of the Jurassic Park movies, the idea and difference between whether something that CAN BE DONE and whether something SHOULD BE DONE.

The MTA can operate THEIR TRAINS any way they want to - it IS their railroad. What we often debate is whether something should be done, even when we know that idea is possible.

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