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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Tue Jan 6 22:52:16 2015, in response to Re: What is this supposed to be?, posted by randyo on Tue Jan 6 21:47:13 2015. Hello RandyoThanks for the interesting memories also (along with those of Express Rider) I recall the IRT Hi-V cars well - first from my trips on the IRT Pelham Line EL to visit a family relative in the Bronx in the 1950 to 1960 era...riding the Hi-V's of course thru their end of passenger service some time in 1958. (Some lasted in Work service until about 1960) Also riding the IRT B'way (Manhattan) Local generally with Hi-V's. I recall on all of many trips working my way up a few cars to the front car with my dad or uncle - whomever was my occasional riding adult companion. Most Hi-V trains then were Hi-V MUDC cars with "modified" Hi-V Gibbs, Hi-V Hedley Standard Body or Hi-V Deck Roof "Manually Operated Doors" cars on each end. I know YOU know WHY the manual door cars were in those positions there, as I do ! Well, occasionally the dreaded hated GIBBS CAR, to me at least back then, was at the head end, with its vestibule twin parlor sliding doors closed - closing off the entire end platform and vestibule (and its motorman. And,if lucky (heh) with the twin roller-curtains only a few inches above the bottoms of the tall narrow glass window in each sliding "vestible parlor door". Well, crouching down, and looking upward, (looking like a fool, I guess) all I could see thru the high up small 2-piece square "Gibbs type" storm door window was tunnel lights flashing by. Pretty soon I gave up with a stiff neck and went back to be seated next to my adult relative. Other than the multi-panels in the Hi-V Motor Cars steel end and center doors, the interiors had a similar "basic" IRT subway car "look" on the Hi and Low-V Classes. Hi-V Trailers looked just like Low-V Trailers...all having a single panel in each vestibule and car center side door. Who "woulda thunk" these would be the pre-cursor to full width cabs about 45 years later ! Deck Roof and Hedley Hi-V cars were much more welcomed by me at the head end of any Hi-V consist. Of course, I didn't know the class-name differences until I joined ERA in 1959 and learned all that quickly. The Hi-V cars most definately had a louder, more groaning growling bull & pinion gears sound -- and the multi-lurching as the M/M notched up each point on the multi-point manual accelleration controller handle when departing each station. The electric version of the auto or truck "stick shift" we knew well back then, heh. I rode Composites on the Manhattan 3rd Ave EL in 1949 and 1950 only a few times - and remember them well mainly because they were much different than "regular" cars on the "EL". They had the (to me) unique "subway all longitudal" style seating and center doors. As opposed to the much more familiar "EL CAR" types seating style(called "Manhattan") and NO center doors. I use to wonder then how the "IRT Lex Line "subway cars" got up on the 3rd Ave EL, ie: where was the track connection ! Of course, thru ERA and its members, I learned it all by 1960. Also rode Gate Cars in that 1949-1950 period a rare few times on the "EL" (and enjoyed the rare "rolling front porch" views forward!) as they were being used to replace Composite car consists gradually being removed for their trucks-swapped for new to soon arrive Q-Types by May 1950. But most of the trips were on MUDC's...and after May 1950, expresses of MUDC or Q-Type trains. I recall seeing Blue Birds stored in the Fresh Pond Yards but never rode them...did ride the MULTI's in Myrtle-Chambers service. And the Myrtle EL BU Gates until May 1958. And C-types a number of times on the Fulton El remant until 1956. And of course loads of B Types and D Types. What great fond, and to me, nostalgia years they were being young back then - experiencing the gradual tail end of so much of the unique variety of very old pre-war steel subway car and wooden "EL" car rolling stock - even if we didn't know their "technical names and classes" in our very young years. But the MEMORIES remain ! Thus WHY I do my modeling work ! regards - Joe F |
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