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Posted by Joe V on Wed Dec 24 11:21:34 2014, in response to Re: What color should a future CTA rail line be?, posted by WillD on Wed Dec 24 09:37:07 2014. Face it WillD, you are philosophically opposed to rail transit, and think regional rail can handle it all."Go ride the trains. Nothing quite like sitting 8 or so minutes for a Brown line train at Rush hour." I have been at Diversey during the rush plenty of times, and the Browns come packed every 3 minutes. There are also Purples every 12. If you think people should walk over to Ravenswood METRA station instead from Belmont or Addison, you're nuts. The people in Lake Front highrises are taking buses. "Yes, crowded because they run tiny trains." Deal with reality, not your perceptions. According to Wikipedia about the Brown Line, "third busiest 'L' route, with an average of 101,881 passengers boarding each weekday in 2011.[1]. OTOH, The entire UP-North line had an average of 36,400 weekday passenger trips in 2010. So the Brown Line from the Ravenswood terminus loads triple the entire METRA UP-North Line up to Kenosha. And yes Subway to Secaucus has double the capacity of Gateway. I'll trust P-B's studies over your subjective opinion. The density is not there on the West Side, and not worthy of major investment. Evanston and Ravenswood on the UP-North are heavy loaders, by Metra standards, not CTA's. The equivalent stations on the MILW-North are not by any standard. YES, the West Side has de-populated. South Of Kennedy area is not what we are talking about, and even that development is not headed south of 35th Street. " And that's a great thing, as you've established, the L network is too slow and small to provide an adequate express link to O'hare." It died because the crossing menuevers between the 2 subways would be unworkable. "And I know it kills you that all around the world systems have discovered that commuter rail is the superior means of moving commuters through cities, but I guess you'll just have to face reality someday. " Philadelphia does, but 97% of the people don't ride through, and SEPTA's OTP sucks. Now deal with Chicago's reality rather then pretend we're in Paris. As with you love affair with ARC, you are as completely clueless on what to do with people and getting them to and from Union Station or Ogilvie, except with LRT cars on fantasy rights of way across the Loop. You are also obsessed with moving commuter trains around, running them to O'hare every 5 - 10 minutes when you have not established a market, or anyway for people to get to them. Traffic jams on the freeway in and of themselves don't justify it. And you cannot justify Crossrail because of a stupidly situated Convention Center, or for that matter Gary or Hegewisch. Crossrail is an ill-conceived thru-running plan of NICTD to O'Hare, and nothing more. |
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