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Re: Hudson River rail tunnel project has new name, but same concerns over funding

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jun 17 19:32:34 2012, in response to Re: Hudson River rail tunnel project has new name, but same concerns over funding, posted by WillD on Sun Jun 17 16:05:53 2012.

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You are making wild assumptions about transit villages with no basis. They tend to be over-priced 1 and 2 bedroom apartments, seldom condos, and unsuitable for anyone except singles or couples without children, or will put pressure on boro school budgets. They are not going to happen in any sizable quantity. It is not the magic bullet that will put any measurable shift of bus passengers on trains.

It is far cheaper to deadhead subway trains with a 2 man crews than NJT trains. That is a silly argument. And there is no Boonton Yard in Gateway either. You can get 2nd use out of a Subway train if all it has to do is get back to Flushing. Very unlikely for trains that have to go minimally to Summit or South Amboy.

West Winsdor has been arguing over Transit Village for 20 years and nothing has come of it. The NIMBY"s are afraid the Hamilton gangs will move in. Your assumption that parking decks will rise up like crab grass are ridiculous, and there is no funding to do them anyway.

You still have no way to absorb all the PABT bus people onto subways at NYPS, and there are twice as many of them as rail passengers. The NYC transit system has no plans to run 12 and 14 car trains.

The NEC has a cost recovery of 90%. It is goes down from there. Nothing on the rail side runs in the black.

Where did you get $15B to dig a subway to Secaucus ? It shows you have no clue as to what really costs: it is not the tunnel under the river. Penn Station South is a multi-billion dolar pig. P-B hasn't even completed Bloomberg's study and nothing need to be done east of 11th Avenue. Bob Previdi, a transporation consultant, gave us a cost figure at a NARP meeting for #7 to Hoboken, and it is just $6B.

People destination is WORK, not a train terminal. Focus on moving people, not playing train. Sorry Wilbur, you are simply an hysteric obsessed with philosophy.

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