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Re: Euclid Ave Platforms (Back to 1904 with Post-War IND)

Posted by J trainloco on Mon Jan 30 13:26:47 2012, in response to Re: Euclid Ave Platforms (Back to 1904 with Post-War IND), posted by Edwards! on Sun Jan 29 22:02:25 2012.

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I understand. For what it's worth, I have heard proposals to extend the SIR to lower manhattan via governor's island. You fund it with a public-private partnership where you let a private developer buy most of Governor's Island and then use the money for the construction of the subway. Not a bad idea in my estimation.

Right now, i'm doubtful that even the SAS will get fully built, much less anything else. But I would like to see a re-purposing of some underused ROWs. If the SIR North Shore Line is rectivated in full, then you could use it as the cross harbor freight tunnel.

I get what you're saying about double leveling such a tunnel to avoid interference with the FRA, but I would rather see some sort of arrangement where an effective PTC were implemented and freight and a new type of subway/commuter hybrid car were purchased to keep costs down. Where feasible, freight would be kept on its own tracks, but where that's not possible, trains would share the tracks. Using this system, you COULD implement:

1. The Triboro RX plan, including continuing across the narrows to SI and running on the north shore. This would connect the outerboroughs.
2. Connect the RX coming from SI to the lower level of crosstown at church ave, and run it through Rutgers to manhattan via the Culver/crosstown express tracks.
3. Repurpose the LIRR Far Rock branch between Laurelton and Jamaica as subway.
4. Build the "super express" along the outerboroughs, with limited stations east of Metropolitan. Still need to figure out how that might tie into a manhattan trunk though.
5. Link the Atlantic branch of the LIRR into this system, and connect it to the Montague tunnel.

The outerboros would see significantly more coverage throughout, and it could be done far more cost effectively than brand new lines.

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