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Re: Retirement of TTC H4 Subway Cars

Posted by Michael Wares on Sat Jan 28 10:28:35 2012, in response to Re: Retirement of TTC H4 Subway Cars, posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Jan 27 16:49:43 2012.

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I'm posting the following for Mark Brader.


The H-4's were the last Toronto subway cars with really comfortable
seats, but also the last ones that weren't air-conditioned. I won't
miss them in the summer, but I will the rest of the year.

The inside door color is better described as cream. Here are all the
colors that have been used:

G-1,G-2,G-3,G-4 - green
M-1 - unpainted (silver)
H-1 - light grayish brown
H-2,H-4 - cream
H-5 - yellow
H-6 - orange
T-1 - dark red
Rocket - unpainted (silver)

I just did some searching for H-2 or H-4 cars in Google Images; there
were lots of false hits (pictures of other classes of car) and a bunch
of poor quality images, but here's a good one where the colors are
clearly visible.

http://torontoist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/20120127-TTC-D4-Final-Run8-Corbin_Smith.jpg

The H-2 and H-4 cars were virtually identical, except that the H-2's
had some triple seats facing forwards and backwards, like the old G-cars.
This meant that an H-2 had 6 more seats but less standing room. One
difference visible from the outside was that the H-4's introduced a
single mounting bracket for the two indicator lights on each side,
marking the guard's car and a car with one or more doors open. The
H-2's and all earlier cars had these lights mounted separately; the
H-5's and all later cars extended the bracket to add a third light for
the passenger-alarm indicator.

Note that some seatbacks in the photo are orange and some are two-tone.
I'm not 100% certain on this, but I believe the two-tone is the
original design for both H-2 and H-4 and the solid orange ones were
installed as cheaper replacements in later years.

Here are some of the inferior photos that I found (bad color or too small
or don't show enough of the car). All of these actually show H-4's, even
though the last one has "H2" in the URL:

http://www.blogto.com/upload/2012/01/2012127-h4-int-ed.jpg
http://www.blogto.com/upload/2012/01/2012127-h4-seats-ed.jpg
http://media.thestar.topscms.com/images/b4/94/31850cfa48eeb584c2fa2a82fe53.jpg
http://media.citytv.topscms.com/images/0f/20/93843925409abb2c2af71a12c424.jpg
http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/subway1.jpg?w=620
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5135/5497795796_12d2e13d40.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5212/5497795056_b02c750c25_z.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Toronto_Subway_Train_Type_H2_Interior.jpg

Mark Brader, Toronto


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