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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 7 15:35:10 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 7 13:10:33 2020.

That is an absolute statement, which are seldom true.
There were people who were both anti-Trump and pro-Biden.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 7 15:41:11 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 13:21:40 2020.

I think Buttigeig will be in the cabinet, such as at HUD or Commerce.
Klobuchar possibly also to shore up the midwest some more.

Warren will not be. Her state has a Republican governor, who would install a GOP successor.

Don't judge people by their public speaking abilities. You do not get to attain her California AG position or even courtroom attorney by being "slow". Biden was a severe stutterer. This culture interprets that (and deafness) as stupid, which is not so.

Cruz is too obnoxious and unpopular even with other Republicans, a Guiliani and Gingrich in the making.



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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 7 15:42:33 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by pragmatist on Sat Nov 7 13:14:45 2020.

Don't forget his purple hand we all saw 2 weeks ago. Something is wrong with him.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by pragmatist on Sat Nov 7 15:49:01 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 7 15:42:33 2020.

Lots of people said blood thinners, certainly a possibility, another common cause would be prednisone. Or, closing the car door on ones hand. Not a fan of his, but see no point in guessing.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 7 15:53:38 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by pragmatist on Sat Nov 7 15:49:01 2020.

Internal bleeding - signs of a feared stroke or a transfusion from hell.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 7 15:58:02 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 7 12:42:56 2020.

He's golfing (and sulking). Hope he breaks one of his clubs.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 7 15:59:47 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Nov 7 11:54:12 2020.

They and A.P. called Arizona days ago. I would not take that to the bank.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 16:14:56 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 7 14:01:39 2020.

She is good with practiced talking points, but doesn't ad lib well. Slow is the wrong word, because she's not unintelligent, but I don't know the right word.

And there could be many reasons that she comes across that way. Maybe the magnitude of the question/answer weighs on her thoughts. Maybe she thinks about all the possible ways that her answer could be interpreted and wants to get it right. Maybe she isn't as versed in the area being discussed as she is in other areas.

Whatever the reason, she doesn't come across as quick on her feet. I think that the majority of her political career may have been dealing with people that give her softball questions. Or maybe this is how she is.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 16:21:50 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 7 15:41:11 2020.

Don't judge people by their public speaking abilities. You do not get to attain her California AG position or even courtroom attorney by being "slow". Biden was a severe stutterer. This culture interprets that (and deafness) as stupid, which is not so.

You're part right. Slow was the wrong word anyway. She's not stupid. I meant not as smart as I expected. But that could also be off as you correctly point out. Whatever the reason, it's not a good quality for a politician and I'm surprised to see her make it this far after hearing her ad lib.

As for making it this far, I can guess that she made it this far strictly by making the right political friends and by television advertising. Democrats control California and especially Bay Area democrats. If you're in the good graces of powerful people you bounce from one office to the next and keep moving up.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by ntrainride on Sat Nov 7 16:30:03 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 16:14:56 2020.

"weighs on her thoughts" is jive. anybody should be perfectly capable of conversing with anybody about anything. especially "public figures".

face to face", trump could out talk both the perverted coot and the prattling skrank with ease. hell, i could easily befuddle both of 'em. their heads would be spinning.

nah, she is literally....stupid.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by ntrainride on Sat Nov 7 16:39:57 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 16:21:50 2020.

biden is a waste of protoplasm. islands of plastic bags floating in the pacific are more admirable. the likes of sandy cortez, the chinese, the indians, the russians, the europeans, the mega rich are gonna punk his doddering flat ass every day of the week and twice on any sunday you'd care to name.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Nov 7 16:40:06 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 7 13:00:25 2020.

What "fuckery"? Biden won in a fair, free election, which Trump did everything he could to undermine.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Nov 7 16:42:56 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by pragmatist on Sat Nov 7 15:49:01 2020.

Or, closing the car door on ones hand. I did that when was 16 , closed the car door on my thumb. I went to a hospital near me and they "made a hole " in my fingernail to release the pressure. Later on, because I did not keep that hole covered , it got infected and my finger nail had to be pulled off!!!

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 16:42:57 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Nov 7 16:40:06 2020.

Wasn't it you that posted about people being caught trying to stuff ballots?

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 7 17:00:50 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 16:42:57 2020.

There have probably been hundreds, or even thousands, of cases of fraud nationwide. Plus the undetectable ones where a son/daughter fills out the ballot for the infirm elderly parent.

There most definitely have not been 34,000 fraudulent ballots in PA.




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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 7 17:04:34 2020, in response to BIDEN ELECTED, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Nov 7 11:31:12 2020.

Mazol tov.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 7 17:05:18 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Nov 7 11:32:29 2020.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Nov 7 17:06:15 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 7 17:05:18 2020.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

LOL

ROFL

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 7 17:06:31 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Nov 7 11:39:24 2020.

How about you start using spell check?


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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Nov 7 17:06:50 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 7 17:05:18 2020.

MY SOCIAL SECURITY BENIFITS ARE PROTEDCCED NOW

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Re: Gerald Ford Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 7 17:08:42 2020, in response to Gerald Ford Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 7 11:52:39 2020.

No, that was on 1 20 2017.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 7 17:09:09 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Nov 7 17:06:15 2020.

Easily amused.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Nov 7 17:13:52 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 7 17:09:09 2020.

NOW I DONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MY SOCIAL SECURITY BENIFITS ANYMORE

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Nov 7 17:14:15 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 7 17:06:31 2020.

NO PROB

LOL

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Nov 7 17:16:25 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 16:42:57 2020.

Yes, and both suspects are Trumpers.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 7 17:35:21 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 7 15:35:10 2020.

I was pro-Biden. I wanted his nomination before the primaries started. Now whether that was only because I thought he was best suited to defeat Trump, I don’t know.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 7 17:45:55 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 7 15:58:02 2020.

He’s tweeted now. It’s exactly as you expect.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 7 17:46:01 2020, in response to BIDEN ELECTED, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Nov 7 11:31:12 2020.

We have a President.

We have an awful lot to do. It's going to be a long climb back from this distorted dystopia we've fallen into.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 7 17:48:06 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 16:14:56 2020.

Being good at ad libs is hard. But OTOH, I do think it’s a meaningful skill for a politicians. Different kinds of people need to be different kinds of smart.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 17:52:38 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Nov 7 17:16:25 2020.

So there was at least one attempt to undermine the election. I don't say how you can say that there wasn't "fuckery" when you posted about some.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 7 18:04:53 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 17:52:38 2020.

There wasn't in any kind of significant way. BB is saying that the Democrats stole the election, which means at least 100,000 fake ballots* whereas JayZ and many other (including me) suggest that the thievery is on both sides and amounts to hundreds or thousands, not 100,000.

* Many Republicans have claimed that Clinton didn't really win the popular vote in 2016. That suggests fakery on the order of millions of ballots.



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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 7 18:10:12 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 12:50:28 2020.

It's surely going to. be inclusive which is refreshing change one.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 18:12:03 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 7 18:04:53 2020.

I don't know if there was foreign interference I don't know if there was any significant fraud. Unlike you and JayZee, I don't know what I don't know.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 7 18:15:21 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 18:12:03 2020.

Trump is spending millions of dollars on challenging the counts in multiple states. How much evidence has he presented in court of voter fraud? Zero.

If there were 100,000 stolen ballots, you'd think they could establish some of it.



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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Nov 7 18:20:57 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Nov 7 17:13:52 2020.

You think.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 18:27:32 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 7 18:15:21 2020.

My understanding was that Trump was alleging that ballots shouldn't be counted if they came in after the election. That's a legal argument that doesn't prove or disprove whether or not there was any fraud.

I'm not suggesting that there was fraud. I've seen no evidence of it. Just pointing out that not finding fraud does not prove that there wasn't any. Plus catching people trying to cheat and using that as proof that cheating doesn't happen is like catching an embezzler and saying that's proof that embezzlement doesn't happen.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Nov 7 18:28:50 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Nov 7 17:13:52 2020.

True,, anything can happen with S/S. I hope and pray we keep it!

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 18:32:56 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 7 17:48:06 2020.

Yeah, but here's the deal. When I'm at work and I get asked tough questions about an area in my expertise, I'm expected to have a good answer. This is her "work" and she doesn't have that skill.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 7 18:34:20 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 18:32:56 2020.

PWN3D!

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 7 18:34:26 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 18:27:32 2020.

My understanding was that Trump was alleging that ballots shouldn't be counted if they came in after the election.

That won't get him anywhere in PA. All the ballots counted so far came in by Tuesday. The late arrivals are sequestered and haven't been counted yet.



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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 18:40:38 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 7 18:34:26 2020.

I haven't read or kept up but I thought that there was some nuanced argument that they discussed on CNN. Something about some ballots as having been received, but having something wrong with them that needed to be resolved. Like maybe they were spoiled or the signature didn't match. Pennsylvania was counting those as having been received, but I think that there was some potential that the law in Pennsylvania could be interpreted that should not count.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by ntrainride on Sat Nov 7 18:43:13 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 18:27:32 2020.

choose a side already. jeeze.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Nov 7 18:45:27 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Nov 7 17:13:52 2020.

The decreased employment due to Covid has reduced payments into the trust fund. It's moved up the default date by several years.

OTOH, Biden will not actively defund Social Security, like Trump tried.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 7 19:03:30 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 18:40:38 2020.

Yes, there are some of those too. They haven't been counted either. They are pretty small in number. If they do get counted, they are likely to be somewhere between 50-50 and heavily blue.





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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 7 19:45:19 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 7 19:03:30 2020.

Add to that they probably have reached a knee-point in the count. There may be too few remaining uncounted ballots to overcome the deviation between the two candidates vote totals.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Nov 7 20:03:30 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 7 13:01:27 2020.

Actually, when Joe Biden takes office on 1/20/21, he will be 78, which is older than Reagan was when he left office (Reagan was born February 6, 1911, so he was still 77 on 1/20/89).

Reagan was the oldest man ever elected at 69 in November 1980. That record stood for 36 years, and now has been broken twice in 4 years. Unreal.

Source for Reagan birth information

Of course, Biden is not on that list, but I googled, and he was born 11/20/42.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by rockparkman on Sat Nov 7 21:02:25 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by ntrainride on Sat Nov 7 16:39:57 2020.

Waaaah Waaaah little girl. Go drink some bleach.

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 7 23:10:26 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 7 18:10:12 2020.

Go fuck yourself you irritating, stinking cunt

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Re: BIDEN ELECTED

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 7 23:51:55 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 7 17:35:21 2020.

Newman is somewhere with a BIG grin on his face!

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Re: BIDEN “ELECTED”

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 8 01:20:40 2020, in response to Re: BIDEN ELECTED, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 7 23:51:55 2020.

The real Newmans won't have that grin for very long. Not that their efforts had anything to do with what the "news" media are doing.

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