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Re: Bob Dole whores out?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 21:07:02 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by Dave on Sun May 29 15:24:52 2016.

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Don't see why. Trump still has a foreign policy very much like Obama's.

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Re: Bob Dole whores out?

Posted by bingbong on Sun May 29 21:28:07 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 21:07:02 2016.

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Lulz. Trump is all about blowing other countries up (see Trident quote). President Obama is all about NOT blowing other countries up. (see Hiroshima speech).

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Re: Bob Dole whores out :(

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun May 29 21:31:10 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by bingbong on Sun May 29 21:04:22 2016.

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The most operative question WRT Sanders supporters is whether or not they vote at all. Most are in the demographic that doesn't.

Clinton's campaign never appealed to this demographic. It should never have expected any support from this demographic. Therefore, it should not be concerned whether they vote or not.

The majority will vote for Clinton, no questions asked.

I can conceive of situations whereby Sanders supporters might vote for Trump. It depends on Clinton's long awaited pivot to the right.

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Re: Bob Dole whores out :(

Posted by AlM on Sun May 29 21:45:37 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun May 29 21:31:10 2016.

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I can conceive of situations whereby Sanders supporters might vote for Trump.

Some certainly will. See Billbklyn's posts. He was proud of voting for Sanders.


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Re: Bob Dole whores out :(

Posted by italianstallion on Sun May 29 22:04:18 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by SMAZ on Sun May 29 19:11:01 2016.

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+1000

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Re: Bob Dole whores out :(

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 29 22:27:22 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by italianstallion on Sun May 29 22:04:18 2016.

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x2

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Re: Bob Dole whores out :(

Posted by bingbong on Sun May 29 22:39:59 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by AlM on Sun May 29 21:45:37 2016.

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I find it hard to fathom to be sincere. Aside from the anger there's nothing in common with Sanders agenda v trump's bombast.

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Re: Bob Dole whores out :(

Posted by 3-9 on Sun May 29 23:11:09 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by bingbong on Sun May 29 22:39:59 2016.

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There's the key commonality: both are considered outsiders to the establishment.

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Re: Bob Dole whores out :(

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun May 29 23:11:42 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 29 19:02:54 2016.

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Mommy would have loved that quote. :-/

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Re: Bob Dole whores out?

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun May 29 23:14:56 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 29 12:25:51 2016.

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So name a conservative please so we can fully understand what you're talking about... :-)

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Re: Bob Dole whores out?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 29 23:16:05 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun May 29 23:14:56 2016.

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Here ya go. :)



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Re: Bob Dole whores out :(

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 29 23:31:34 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by 3-9 on Sun May 29 23:11:09 2016.

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LOL! An outsider who's been in Congress for 25 years.

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Re: Bob Dole whores out :(

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun May 29 23:34:38 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by bingbong on Sun May 29 22:39:59 2016.

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Aside from the anger there's nothing in common with Sanders agenda v trump's bombast.

The question, after the rightward pivot, is whether on economic issues there will be any difference between Clinton's agenda and Trump's.

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Re: Bob Dole whores out :(

Posted by AlM on Mon May 30 07:33:55 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun May 29 23:34:38 2016.

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Well, Trump's agenda can't be pinned down. But he has expressed a desire for high bracket tax cuts that are most definitely not going to be part of the Clinton agenda.

And she supports Dodd-Frank, with enhancements as needed. He doesn't.

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Re: Bob Dole whores out :(

Posted by bingbong on Mon May 30 10:45:03 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by 3-9 on Sun May 29 23:11:09 2016.

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Not anymore. Like it or not (based on his behavior this past month I'd say not) trump is now the republican establishment.

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Re: Bob Dole whores out :(

Posted by 3-9 on Mon May 30 18:25:27 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 29 23:31:34 2016.

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He's preaching something populist and not mainstream. That's enough.

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Re: Bob Dole whores out :(

Posted by 3-9 on Mon May 30 18:31:21 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by bingbong on Mon May 30 10:45:03 2016.

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Not yet, not while the beaten animal still known as the Republican establishment still exists, even if it's crawling on hands and knees to Trump.

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Re: Bob Dole whores out :(

Posted by Express Rider on Tue May 31 00:52:04 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by bingbong on Sun May 29 12:00:26 2016.

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you'll probably have to wait until *beyond* hell freezing over for that to happen...

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Re: Bob Dole whores out :(

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 31 08:15:25 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by Express Rider on Tue May 31 00:52:04 2016.

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I know.

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Re: Bob Dole whores out :(

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue May 31 10:18:03 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by AlM on Mon May 30 07:33:55 2016.

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Trump's agenda can't be pinned down.

Can Clinton's? Remember the "after the rightward pivot" qualifier in my statement.

Part of the Clinton supporters' animus towards Sanders and his supporters stems from Clinton having to move much further to the left than than their election strategy plans. Many Sanders supporters view Clinton's leftward tilt as a cynical ploy. A "rightward pivot" for the general election would confirm that judgement.

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Re: Bob Dole whores out :(

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 31 10:33:49 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue May 31 10:18:03 2016.

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Hillary published her positions on her website they're all there, clear and haven't really changed at all. Imaginary "pivots" are precisely that.

The only animus I know of from the Clinton camp is that Sanders doesn't comprehend that its all over already. We need to unify and focus on eliminating trump from any serious contention.

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Re: Bob Dole whores out :(

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 31 10:38:37 2016, in response to Re: Bob Dole whores out :(, posted by bingbong on Tue May 31 10:33:49 2016.

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IAWTP

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