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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 24 01:54:57 2016 EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EU EUNY Times
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 24 02:03:00 2016, in response to Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 24 01:54:57 2016. Another fine conservative mess. :) |
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Posted by Express Rider on Fri Jun 24 02:08:58 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 24 02:03:00 2016. Where's Monty Python (and George Orwell) when we need them? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 24 02:23:18 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Express Rider on Fri Jun 24 02:08:58 2016. Booking flights to Belgium I would imagine.I posted the Brexit film here a couple of days ago, One hour and 15 minutes and pretty much explained what was coming and why. What's really interesting is that the vast majority of the "remain" votes came from Northern Ireland and the whole of Scotland. It's going to get interesting because the Scottish have already started the process of another go at secession, and the Northern Irish are already talking to the republic. At this rate, the UK might jut be eastern Wales and London by the time the dust has settled. And in the wings, Netherlands, France and Italy are now starting to chomp at the bit too. Poor Olog. Kept trying to tell him when he was all worked up about the EU years ago that this day would come if Merkel refused to properly negotiate. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 24 03:40:46 2016, in response to Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 24 01:54:57 2016. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/eu-referendum-results-live-brexit-wins-as-britain-votes-to-leave/Britain has voted to leave the European Union, with the Leave campaign securing around 51.8 per cent of the vote. David Cameron has resigned as Prime Minister in an emotional speech outside 10 Downing Street. While England voted overwhelmingly for Brexit, Scotland and Northern Ireland backed Remain. Statements are expected to be made by Sinn Fein and the SNP later today calling for a breakaway from the Union. London backed Remain but the turnout was lower than expected because of bad weather. The pound crashed to the lowest level since 1985 as sterling fell below $1.35. Complacency about a Brexit outcome will come clear this morning, as out of hours trading suggests that the FTSE 100 will drop by 8.8pc, or by some 560 points. The fall would be the third worst in history if stocks ended the day down as sharply. In a speech outside 10 Downing Street he said: "The British people have voted to leave the EU and their will must be respected. The will of the British people is an instruction that must be delivered. There can be no doubt about the result. Across the world people have been watching the choice that Britain has made. This will require strong, determined and committed leadership. I am very proud to have been Prime Minister of this country for six years. I have held nothing back. The british people have made a very clear decision to I think the country requires fresh leadership. I do not think I can be the captain to take the country to its next destination. In my view I think we should have a new prime minister in place by the start of the Conservative conference in October." --- Don't let the door hit you on the arse. Had you, and your conservatives not shafted the working people all these years, this might not have been the outcome. Let this also be a lesson for America, people are tired of being servile to the rich and their interests, and voting for Trump ain't going to get us there either. My opinion. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 24 03:52:27 2016, in response to And ... Cameron hits the silk, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 24 03:40:46 2016. https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor?ref_src=twsrc^tfwKevin Schofield @PolhomeEditor 41m41 minutes ago Am told a letter signed by at least 55 Labour MPs calling for Jeremy Corbyn to go will be delivered to the leader's office next week. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 24 03:54:14 2016, in response to Re: And 55 Labour MP's have told Corbyn to get stuffed as well, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 24 03:52:27 2016. Source on that:https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/news/76495/exclusive-jeremy-corbyn-face-shadow-cabinet-calls |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 24 04:29:06 2016, in response to Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 24 01:54:57 2016. They should have waited until July 4. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 24 06:00:57 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 24 04:29:06 2016. Why? That's a date associated with a great indignity of theirs. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Jun 24 06:33:22 2016, in response to Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 24 01:54:57 2016. The Empire Strikes Back. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 24 07:06:55 2016, in response to Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 24 01:54:57 2016. Some quick thoughts on yesterday's very it's:British people are facing the same issues we face here with unemployment, immigration and securing Borders at the top of the list. Barack Obama lectured the British to stay in the EU. Hillary supported raining in the EU. Trump expressed support for BREXIT. Result will be some short lived volatility in the financial markets here and there. Outs should settle quickly but the trend in the western world may be moving to conservatism once again. Hillary Clinton must be a bit concerned right now. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 24 07:17:25 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 24 07:06:55 2016. the western world may be moving to conservatism once again.Just like in the 1930s. What a great future they created. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 24 07:18:53 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 24 02:23:18 2016. This time Scottish Independence will win. The United Kingdom has signed their own death warrant. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Jun 24 10:40:37 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 24 06:00:57 2016. IAWTP. If they had defeated the "colonies", who knows, they might be a superpower instead of the US (well, we would be part of that superpower anyway).There was an episode of the TV series "Sliders" that touched on that, don't know the exact season and episode #. Great show :) |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jun 24 10:45:37 2016, in response to And ... Cameron hits the silk, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 24 03:40:46 2016. Sometimes the peasants fight back. 😆 |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 24 10:55:15 2016, in response to Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 24 01:54:57 2016. Good riddance.Don't let the door his the English and Welsh in the ass. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 24 13:10:51 2016, in response to And ... Cameron hits the silk, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 24 03:40:46 2016. Gotta acknowledge this about British conservatives......they at least recognize the will of the voters.Unlike conservatives on this side of the pond. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 24 13:23:47 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 24 06:00:57 2016. W1N/ |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Fri Jun 24 15:35:15 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 24 07:17:25 2016. I didn't think that you were that old to remember. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jun 24 15:39:20 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Jun 24 10:40:37 2016. Nah, I think the US would have broken away eventually. It might even would have happened before the 20th century, but the US would be smaller and probably not a superpower (other chunks of North America would probably have stayed in other countries' hands, not willing to sell to Britain).I think Sliders wasted their premise, IMO. I didn't see the whole series, but their alternate reality stories also seemed to be really shallow, not really exploring the possibilities. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 24 15:41:03 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 24 07:06:55 2016. I wouldn't say the western world is leaning towards conservatism again. It's actually attempting to break free from it. It seeks to break free from oppression, the only attribute conservatism clings to fervently.And...in before.....if the "liberal" EU was seeking to be oppressive, they would not have put an exit mechanism in the charter to begin with. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Fri Jun 24 15:45:27 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 24 15:41:03 2016. Britain has rejected the worldism of the left. Other European nations will follow. Barack Obama and Silly Hilly came out against leaving. The British have rejected their elitism. I realize that you don't understand yet. Then again, I don't understand why you grow pubic hair on your face. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 24 15:56:32 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 24 15:41:03 2016. This is just wishful thinking on your part. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 24 15:58:14 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by R2Chinatown on Fri Jun 24 15:45:27 2016. That's the problem. Elitism works. The people are fucking idiots. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 24 16:05:38 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 24 15:58:14 2016. I think that you are wrong. The British overwhelmingly wanted their secure borders back. The EU offered no security. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 24 16:19:16 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 24 16:05:38 2016. That's the problem. They don't realize the effect this would have on the economy, which is more important than security. Security doesn't put food on the table, free trade does. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 24 16:21:39 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by R2Chinatown on Fri Jun 24 15:45:27 2016. You absolutely have me confused with someone else. Maybe even you. Clearly, you need help. Get some.The British voted against being taken advantage of. That's all. If they think and apply this lesson to themslves, they won't lose Scotland and Northern Ireland as well. Hopefully they will check what the voting pattern was and act accordingly. You keep proving you have no clue about any of this. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 24 16:30:24 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 24 15:56:32 2016. It's sincere observation. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 24 16:45:21 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 24 16:30:24 2016. I disagree. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 24 17:21:43 2016, in response to Re: And ... Cameron hits the silk, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jun 24 10:45:37 2016. They're going to have a lot of cleaning up to do. And Boris Johnson? Yipe. Looks like they went full Trump over there. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jun 24 17:40:05 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 24 15:56:32 2016. Yep. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Jun 24 20:02:13 2016, in response to Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 24 01:54:57 2016. I'm at a loss to understand why so many Americans are so emotionally invested in this. Especially those Americans that wanted them to stay. I think they'll be fine. Or maybe they'll be worse. I really don't care all that much either way. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Jun 24 20:02:13 2016, in response to Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 24 01:54:57 2016. I'm at a loss to understand why so many Americans are so emotionally invested in this. Especially those Americans that wanted them to stay. I think they'll be fine. Or maybe they'll be worse. I really don't care all that much either way. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jun 24 20:14:04 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 24 20:02:13 2016. Because Great Britain is a really close, primarily English-speaking ally, and though we revolted against it, it's still considered a parent of sorts. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jun 24 20:46:32 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 24 20:02:13 2016. iawtp |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 24 21:23:38 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by 3-9 on Fri Jun 24 20:14:04 2016. That's not why.Because of the interconnectivity of world trade, what affects Europe affects America. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Fri Jun 24 21:30:37 2016, in response to And ... Cameron hits the silk, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 24 03:40:46 2016. It will be interesting to take a "wait and see" attitude, and see what happens in 12 - 15 months time. |
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Posted by The Silence on Fri Jun 24 21:56:17 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by 3-9 on Fri Jun 24 15:39:20 2016. Budgets, my good man. Those CGI wormholes weren't cheap in 1995, let alone all the other effect work.(and the episode in question was #5) |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jun 24 22:11:27 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by 3-9 on Fri Jun 24 15:39:20 2016. It might even would have happened before the 20th century, but the US would be smaller and probably not a superpower (other chunks of North America would probably have stayed in other countries' hands, not willing to sell to Britain).France really needed the money in 1803. If they had tried to hold on to Louisiana it could have been very expensive for them. By 1815 it would have been British anyway. Napoleon would have probably gone down to defeat sooner if in addition to the Russians and the Brits he also had to fight a holding action against the British North American colonists. And Spain wouldn't have been any more able to hold on to Mexico, or Mexico to its northern reaches. Of course, the southern British colonies might not have taken kindly to Britain abolishing slavery in 1833. The British North America Act of 1867 might have created a really huge country. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 24 23:14:10 2016, in response to And ... Cameron hits the silk, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 24 03:40:46 2016. By doing this, he shows he was under Merkel's thumb the whole time. |
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Posted by DAND124 on Fri Jun 24 23:20:40 2016, in response to Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 24 01:54:57 2016.
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 24 23:31:48 2016, in response to Re: And … Cameron hits the silk, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 24 23:14:10 2016. You have been trolled for years about EU |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 24 23:57:17 2016, in response to Re: And ... Cameron hits the silk, posted by Express Rider on Fri Jun 24 21:30:37 2016. The piranha are already circling. :) |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Jun 25 06:17:19 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 24 07:17:25 2016. the western world may be moving to conservatism once again.Just like in the 1930s. Conservatives like FDR, Ramsay MacDonald, and that peculiar German Socialist fellow? |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Jun 25 06:28:15 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by R2Chinatown on Fri Jun 24 15:45:27 2016. Barack Obama and Silly Hilly came out against leaving.No, the one who played worst in Britain was IRA-sympathizer John Kerry. Goodness knows what Obama was thinking when he appointed him, let alone sending him to preach sermons at the British. It would be like sending someone who obstructed the extradition of Al-Qaeda murderers because their acts were "political" to the USA to tell Americans how to vote – instant boost for the other side. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Jun 25 06:34:36 2016, in response to Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 24 01:54:57 2016. In Scotland and Northern Ireland, by contrast, there was a strong pro-European feeling that has only increased tensions within the United Kingdom itself.That's a misreading of Northern Ireland. What happened was that the Nationalist community used Remain as a sectarian proxy issue to stick two fingers up to the British, whilst the Unionist community had a more typical split, with the DUP's (the largest of the Unionist parties) strongest areas being strongly Leave and the DUP's weakest areas having a bare majority for Remain. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Jun 25 06:36:53 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Jun 25 06:34:36 2016. Ah, that explains why the heavily Catholic areas like West Belfast and the border regions were so pro-Leave, while East Belfast was around 50/50. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 25 09:39:17 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by R2Chinatown on Fri Jun 24 15:45:27 2016. Britain has rejected the worldism of the left.Yeah, leftists like Angela Merkel and David Cameron. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 25 09:41:14 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Jun 25 06:28:15 2016. Northern Ireland voted to Remain. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 25 09:42:56 2016, in response to Re: Britain votes to leave the EU, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Jun 25 06:17:19 2016. How was FDR conservative? |
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