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Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 02:36:06 2013

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Yes, Phil Robertson said that. Think A&E regrets taking him back yet?

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 30 02:38:28 2013, in response to Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 02:36:06 2013.

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Nope ... he's totally Disney, and they EMBRACE that. :(

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 02:41:10 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 30 02:38:28 2013.

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It woyuld so appear. Imagine if I said boys should marry men at 15...think I'd get locked up in less than ten seconds? But it's ALL good when Duck Boy says this about girls...

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Dec 30 04:26:44 2013, in response to Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 02:36:06 2013.

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As much as I don't like the guys opinion, he has a right to state his opinion. First Amendment, is both a gift and a curse, for it allows dummies like him to speak. Oh well

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Dave on Mon Dec 30 04:29:32 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Dec 30 04:26:44 2013.

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Stop confusing the issue with facts.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Dec 30 05:51:22 2013, in response to Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 02:36:06 2013.

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Who cares? I never heard of him or Duck Dynasty before this and still don't know who they are.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 30 06:02:32 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Dec 30 05:51:22 2013.

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JayZee, me and others care because the guy made some anti-gay comments and also said the blacks didn't have it so bad before the civil rights act.

If he said something anti-Semitic you would be concerned in the same way. It's all about whose buttons get pushed.

I part company in that I don't like seeing peoples speech being censored. If everybody would've just sucked it up this guy wouldn't be such a martyr.

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 06:56:27 2013, in response to Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 02:36:06 2013.

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I don't care. DD may be the most popular reality show ever, but I don't watch it.

Whether or not canning him or taking him back was a good idea is not the point. The market will decide that. The big question is for you to understand what you're impliedly asking for: just as under McCarthyism (which I remember first hand) you are a member of a group that CURRENTLY has the power of economic life and death over people in the public eye.

Under McC you couldn't say anything approving about the Soviet Union without risking your job in certain industries. At least then it took weeks or months to be destroyed. Now it seems it can be done in a single news cycle.

Eventually McCarthy overreached when he took on the Army. Remember a paraphrase of an old adage: be careful who you savage on the way up in power; you'all see the same people on the way down.


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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 07:05:20 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 30 06:02:32 2013.

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If he said something disparaging of Jews it should be argued and debated (about the blood libel, say). He would have the opportunity to argue his point and expose the roots of his bigotry. He would have the opportunity to either make his point or bring himself down, as Anita Bryant did in another era.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 30 07:13:59 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 07:05:20 2013.

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LOL it would be the same episode as this.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 30 07:24:33 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 06:56:27 2013.

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Great post.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Dec 30 07:41:22 2013, in response to Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 02:36:06 2013.

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Don't.
Watch.
The.
Fucking.
Show.
Already.


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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 07:47:14 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Dec 30 04:26:44 2013.

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Unfortunately, many people no longer believe in the First Amendment. The guy may be an asshole, but it's very sad that there are now people in this country that believe he doesn't have the right to speak his opinion. It's also the people that proclaim "tolerance" that are the most intolerant of opinions they don't like.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 07:50:03 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 06:56:27 2013.

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Well said. The left wants this country to become like the old Soviet Union, with people not allowed to speak their opinion for fear of losing their job, etc.
What makes this country great is that complete morons like this guy HAVE (or at least should have) the right to speak their minds. Unfortunately those that proclaim "tolerance" are the least tolerant of opposing viewpoint (no matter how wrong it may be).

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 07:50:55 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Dec 30 07:41:22 2013.

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THere are those that just live to be offended. I guess they don't know how to change the channel.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by WillD on Mon Dec 30 07:55:05 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 07:47:14 2013.

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Some group managed to convince the government that corporations are people and as such have first amendment rights. Why do you object to people using their first amendment rights to call for A&E to exercise their first amendment rights and clear this idiot from the air? Do you only think corporate rights apply in the case of campaign donations?

No civilized person should have to be tolerant of anyone whose creed excludes millions of their fellow citizens based on their own race, creed, or other proclivities. You fail as a human being the instant you start defending those who seek to make certain people second class citizens.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by WillD on Mon Dec 30 08:04:34 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 07:50:03 2013.

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And since you defend Mr. Robinson's comments we can apply you own hyperbole and say you're in favor of blacks being held as second class citizens, gays being required to remain closeted for fear of assault, and women being removed from the workplace. You're "tolerant" of all that stuff, right?

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 30 08:08:40 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by WillD on Mon Dec 30 07:55:05 2013.

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I agree that a person making bigoted comments should be shouted down in a public forum but I stop short of making him lose his livelihood over those comments. We shouldn't have to walk on eggshells when expressing ourselves.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by WillD on Mon Dec 30 08:17:37 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 30 08:08:40 2013.

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If he were a ditch digger or something where he's hanging on by the skin of his teeth I could see your point. But he's not. He's rich and famous, and as such he should be held to a higher standard. If not by his audience then at least by the corporation he's going to cost millions.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 30 08:26:18 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by WillD on Mon Dec 30 08:17:37 2013.

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Yes in this case he's not dependent for survival on his A&E show but in another case somebody might actually be a ditch digger. And you know what assholes THOSE guys are

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 08:44:03 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 07:47:14 2013.

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Hmmmm...did you bring up the First Amendment when Martin Bashir got fired from MSNBC, or when the Dixie Chicks got boycotted?

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 08:44:09 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by WillD on Mon Dec 30 08:04:34 2013.

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Are you trying to prove the point that this is the New McCarthyism by cornering anyone who doesn't respond with the proper obeisance and forcing them to deny their Guilt by Association?

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 08:45:30 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 08:44:03 2013.

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Yay! Culture War! Get your tickets now!!!

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 08:47:13 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 07:50:55 2013.

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Being offended is OK. It's the only thing that keeps some people's hearts beating.

It's thinking you have the right to destroy anyone who offends you that's the problem.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 08:50:24 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 06:56:27 2013.

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If gays had the "power of economic life or death" over people in the public eye, don't you think folks like Robertson wouldn't be so comfortable spewing their hatred? Besides, again, Robertson freely signed a contract with A&E...all of these television contracts have ethics clauses. That means you can't say things in the media that would tend to hurt the network's brand or public image.

If I said publicly that men should marry boys when they are 15 years old, what do you think would happen to me? Don't I have the same First Amendment rights as Robertson?



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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 08:55:43 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 30 08:08:40 2013.

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Exactly Fred. Again, those that point fingers and throw stones, and as the post you are responding to, who proclaim to be "tolerant" are among the least tolerant of opposing opinion.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 08:56:25 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by WillD on Mon Dec 30 08:17:37 2013.

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The principle doesn't change depending on whether he can afford to have his job or not.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 08:57:34 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 08:44:03 2013.

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I never complained about the Dixie Chicks, nor cared when Martin Bashir was fired. The principle doesn't changed based on whether I agree with the person or not.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 08:58:27 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by WillD on Mon Dec 30 08:04:34 2013.

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I don't defend Mr Robinson's comments, just his right to say them. Big difference, no matter how you want to mix the point up.
Nice try though.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 09:00:29 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 08:44:09 2013.

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That's exactly his attempt. Since I defend the asshole's right to say his bile, I must agree with the bile. That's what the left does. Anyone that doesn't submit to proper correctness must mean agreement with what was said.
I said the guy was a moron. And no I don't agree with him, but he has EVERY right to say it.
The intolerant left does not allow anyone to speak different than they do.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 09:00:46 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 08:57:34 2013.

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So, my First Amendment right to rebut Robertson's hate speech doesn't apply, in your view? AGAIN, freedom of speech does not exempt a person from the consequences of his actions.

You're free to tell your boss he's an asshole, but you shouldn't be too surprised if he fires you.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 09:01:11 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 08:47:13 2013.

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Yes. I should have been clearer.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 30 09:02:43 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 08:50:24 2013.

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Perhaps if some people would show more patience than a 12 hour news cycle, they'll see that Robertson quite likely shot himself in the foot with that comment about teen marriage.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 09:06:42 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 30 09:02:43 2013.

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Really? Look at the way some people are STILL defending him, especially here.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 09:07:23 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 08:50:24 2013.

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You're beating on the First Amendment. I'm going to something deeper.

But to address you directly: there is a qualitative difference between saying girls should marry at 15 and saying men should marry boys at 15. Girls marrying men or boys at 15 has been a common practice in much of the world and in the U.S. and is still possible in some states.

Saying that men should marry boys is a political statement that brings up new social and political issues.

But what should happen to you if you were to say that? What WOULD happen to you? Legally, nothing. You would be criticized in many quarters and asked to explain yourself. If you were running for political office, you might have destroyed yourself. Should you be denied your livelihood? If you did no more than express your opinion, even forcefully, I would say no.


And you're trying to make it a contractual issue? So what you're really upholding is the Law of Contracts? Or are you simply claiming the right to demand the firing of people who offend you?

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 09:11:55 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 09:00:46 2013.

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So, my First Amendment right to rebut Robertson's hate speech doesn't apply, in your view? AGAIN, freedom of speech does not exempt a person from the consequences of his actions.

I don't see anyone denying YOUR first amendment right. But you get to the heart of the issue when you say you're not exempt from the consequences of your actions. I couldn't agree more, but what those consequences ARE is a power construct. Right now the LGBTQ community has enormous power, as does the PC community in general. You don't seem to see much problem in that power being wielded broadly, or even carelessly.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 09:19:00 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 09:07:23 2013.

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What is the "qualitative difference" between men marrying 15 year old girls, and men marrying 15 year old boys? Please do elaborate. Gay marriage is legal in 18 states now. I'm not advocating that men should marry boys or girls, merely pointing out that you are using a double standard.

If I, as something of a public figure these days, ever advocated that men should marry 15 year old boys, I'd fully expect to lose more than, say, my position as a radio commentator--I'd expect to be prosecuted for promoting pedophilia. By your standards, though, encouraging marriage between grown men and 15 year old girls is OK, by comparison.

The First Amendment, by the way, prohibits the GOVERNMENT from unlawfully restricting your speech. What you agree to on your own, in a contract, is another thing entirely. But even with that, again, freedom of speech doesn't mean others aren't equally free to respond to your words.



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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 09:25:54 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 09:19:00 2013.

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You can try to put words in my mouth, if you like.

You're making a poor equivalence. The difference is that 15 year old cross gender marriage has long history while man-boy love is a new concept to most, and a taboo to many. Legality is not the issue.

If you were to advocate an adult relationship with a prepubescent child of either gender, I'd have a big problem with you.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 09:30:02 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 09:25:54 2013.

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I don't advocate marriage between adults and children of either gender. However, just because 15 year old cross gender marriage "has a long history", doesn't mean it's right, especially in modern times. Slavery had a long history. Jim Crow had a long history. Laws criminalizing homosexuality had a long history. None of these were right, either.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 09:34:57 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 09:06:42 2013.

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Who is defending him? Most feel he is an asshole. People ARE defending his right to say his nonsense however.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 09:35:41 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 09:25:54 2013.

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In fairness, I should also comment on your statement: If I, as something of a public figure these days, ever advocated that men should marry 15 year old boys, I'd fully expect to lose more than, say, my position as a radio commentator

If Duck Dynasty Dude was, say, a CNN commentator, it is a lot different than if he is a semi-entertaining (he's not my cup of tea) duck call maker.

If such a commentator on a "mainstream" news network were to advocate pedophilia, say, or tell blacks that second-class citizenship was good for them, or say that men should be able to marry 15-year-old boys, there'd be hell to pay.

We have a real problem in this society with evaluating the role of people who access to a microphone.




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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 09:37:53 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 09:34:57 2013.

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I never said he didn't have the right to say his nonsense. I said he is ALSO free to suffer the consequences of what he says.

Would you expect to exercise your right to tell your boss he is an asshole, without getting in trouble for insubordination?

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 09:43:14 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 09:19:00 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I don't care about gay marriage. But I have no problem with those who claim it's wrong (they have every right to feel that way), nor do I care what people do in their bedrooms or with whom. For the record, I have been to two gay weddings in the last year. Who cares?

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 09:43:57 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 09:30:02 2013.

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I can't argue with you one bit is saying that (in essence) "precedence doesn't equal right." But social understanding counts in people's understanding and their responses. You specifically asked what would happen IF you advocated 15-y.o. man-boy marriage. You asked why it is different from 15-y.o. male-female marriage. I told you.


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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 30 09:44:03 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 09:06:42 2013.

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His right to speak his mind is being defended, not his statements. No one has championed teen marriage or even his anti-gay views or those on black folk. It sounds like you think that defending his free speech is approval of his comments; they are not.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 09:45:03 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 09:00:46 2013.

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You have every right to rebut him. You don't have a right to attempt try and take away his right to say it.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 09:45:35 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 09:11:55 2013.

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That's exactly the point.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 09:46:39 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 09:43:14 2013.

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How was the catering? The decorations? Who caught the bridal bouquet?

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 09:47:50 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 30 09:44:03 2013.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 09:48:26 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 09:37:53 2013.

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SHE (my boss) would not like it if I called her an asshole, but I often tell her when I disagree with something. Calling HER an asshole would be disrespectful when I disagree with her.
However, back to the ACTUAL point, as "Robinson" or any of these other people aren't my boss, which is a different relationship.

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