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An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 19 13:05:28 2012

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Just limit them to Central Park. They don't belong on the streets in traffic with automobiles. That's for sure.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Aug 19 13:49:27 2012, in response to An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 19 13:05:28 2012.

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yup have fucking protesters draw the carriage, horses are to be worked, or eaten, but US even objected to that for years.
Horse steak is delicious.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 19 15:32:43 2012, in response to An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 19 13:05:28 2012.

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How are they going to get back to the stables?

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Aug 19 15:34:40 2012, in response to An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 19 13:05:28 2012.

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They don't belong on the streets in traffic with automobiles.

Horse transportation was here first. If there is a problem with automobiles and horses sharing the road then the automobiles must be removed.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 19 15:35:36 2012, in response to An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 19 13:05:28 2012.

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That's not a compromise.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 19 15:37:13 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Aug 19 15:34:40 2012.

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The world functions better with automobiles than with horses. Horses lost. Live with it.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 19 15:38:04 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Aug 19 15:34:40 2012.

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Bicycles were there before automobiles too. Bikes got their own lanes, even though by the definition of some leftists that might be a sort of Jim Crow accommodation ("separate but equal" facilities and all—the ADA touts this in order to make accommodation at railroad stations and on board trains more expensive for transit agencies). People who walk get their own lanes too, only we call them "sidewalks" and raise their level above that of the roadway. (Jim Crowism‼)

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 19 15:41:19 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 19 15:37:13 2012.

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You've never been to Amish country, I see.

If ever one of these hits, the Amish will be zillionaires.



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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 19 15:58:33 2012, in response to An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 19 13:05:28 2012.

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IAWTP (they can go to and from the stables without passengers).

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Aug 19 17:01:38 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 19 15:37:13 2012.

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But our society always preserves "legacy" methods of transport (ie: waterways). Horses and automobiles must share the road, or a separate horse lane be devised (maybe a shared bike and horse lane).

Horses came first. Live with it.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 19 17:08:59 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Aug 19 17:01:38 2012.

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As did horse-drawn "beese" (hate that nickname still). And horse-drawn buggies were alternately called "cars".



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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 19 22:03:28 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 19 15:58:33 2012.

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they can use the small truck built to transport 3 or 4 horses at a time. see them on the interstate all the time.

either way, something has to been done.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 19 22:48:02 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 19 22:03:28 2012.

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That would make it worse. With the loading of the trucks on CPW. Also they'll need to tow the carriages.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 19 22:48:59 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Aug 19 17:01:38 2012.

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Only where society finds the legacy useful. It does find the carriages using regular lanes useful but not horse carriage lanes.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 19 22:56:44 2012, in response to An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 19 13:05:28 2012.

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What subchatter said, "We all know Republicans care so much about animals because they care so little about human beings"?

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 05:16:13 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 19 22:48:02 2012.

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Sorry, I meant CPS.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Aug 20 08:56:27 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 19 17:08:59 2012.

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Weren't the horse beese known as ominbuses?

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Aug 20 09:15:14 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 19 15:32:43 2012.

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(That's just to answer your question. I'm not against horses sharing the streets)

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 20 09:36:13 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Aug 20 08:56:27 2012.

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Yes; the same name that they put on license plates of modern "autobuses" in NJ and NY.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 10:17:32 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Aug 20 09:15:14 2012.

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It was a rhetorical question, pretty much.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Aug 20 18:41:01 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 19 22:03:28 2012.

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No, nothing has to be done. These accidents do not even qualify to be a statistical anomaly - in the city there were more bike related accidents in the past week than horse ones all year. Banning horses would be a reaction to a hysterical few to the detriment of the tourism industry as well as the city's character.

Ok, something does have to be done. The people calling for the ban need to be told to STFU.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 20 19:43:44 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Aug 20 18:41:01 2012.

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"Character"? Those horses are an embarrassment.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 20:16:00 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Aug 20 18:41:01 2012.

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EXCELLENT POST

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 20 20:29:38 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 20 20:16:00 2012.

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It's not an excellent post.

He makes a weak comparison.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 20 21:13:32 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 20 19:43:44 2012.

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Thou art unwell.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 20 23:47:11 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 20 21:13:32 2012.

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Thou art unwell.

Why do you say that? I don't think those horses belong in Manhattan traffic. It's embarrassing and sad to see them out there.


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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 20 23:57:09 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 20 23:47:11 2012.

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What makes it "embarrassing"?

Best "compromise" is an exclusive lane that horses and bikes can share. Right? They do it for buses and bikes already, after all.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 21 00:14:24 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 20 23:57:09 2012.

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I will respond after my oatmeal.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 21 00:20:21 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 21 00:14:24 2012.

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Hay! That's not funny! :)



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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 21 00:25:06 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 20 23:57:09 2012.

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What makes it "embarrassing"?

It's borderline animal abuse. No reason for those beasts to be out there in hot weather pulling tourists around.

Best "compromise" is an exclusive lane that horses and bikes can share. Right? They do it for buses and bikes already, after all.

Not enough room. That's why there has been a string of incidents involving these beautiful beasts. Keep them in the park. Don't work them on busy streets.


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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 21 00:26:14 2012, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 21 00:20:21 2012.

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Oatmeal is a great meal before bed. Helps make you sleepy even though I'll be up all night fighting with you, bingbong, Spider-Pig, and Olog.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 25 08:53:15 2025, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Aug 19 13:49:27 2012.

horses are to be worked, or eaten

How bizarre you are, or were.

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Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Aug 25 09:43:05 2025, in response to Re: An idea for compromise with carriage horses in NYC, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 25 08:53:15 2025.

He runs one of the few Metro North message boards out there. He comes off as a cocky know-it-all with most responses laced with snarkyness and sarcasm, but the truth of the matter is that he knows a lot, straight answer. He'll always be happy to show you how smart he is.

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