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Posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 13:37:12 2012 Since the OTChat Einstein Colony seems to think criticizing the choice is so hilarious, what is so good about the choice of Ryan?What's so good about him? How does he help Romney defeat Obama? What demographic is he going to help steal from the Obama side? your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 11 13:40:57 2012, in response to So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 13:37:12 2012. Those are all good questions. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 13:44:40 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 11 13:40:57 2012. Thanks, I made them myself :Pyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 11 13:46:24 2012, in response to So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 13:37:12 2012. Seniors and independentsThe state of Wisconsin And of course, the base. The Veep debate is must see TV. Ryan will absolutely destroy Biden. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 14:07:32 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 11 13:46:24 2012. I don't think Ryan will carry Wisconsin and don't think seniors will flock to the Romney side once the details of his budget emerge. We'll see what happens.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 11 14:12:39 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 14:07:32 2012. Indeed, the details of the Ryan plan (which won't even be implemented) will please seniors. No one over the age of 55 will have their benefits touched.http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/paul-ryans-2011-medicare-plan-a-primer/ However, Obamacare will lead to $500 billion in Medicare spending reductions for EVERYONE. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Aug 11 14:14:04 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 14:07:32 2012. The Obama plan for seniors is far worse. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 11 14:19:47 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Aug 11 14:14:04 2012. The death panels are still there. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Aug 11 14:28:33 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 11 14:19:47 2012. Show the Proff or back off! |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sat Aug 11 14:41:28 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 11 14:12:39 2012. I'm just under that age. I guess I'll starve so the useless eaters can get a tax cut. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 11 15:02:32 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 14:07:32 2012. If Romney does not carry Wisconsin, Obama likely wins the election. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 11 15:04:17 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 14:07:32 2012. That's what just about everyone seems to think. Willard has worked very hard to cover up his comment WRT his embracing the Ryan "budget". Now those chickens will come home to flop...and flip and FLOP. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 11 15:09:28 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 11 14:19:47 2012. Proff? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 11 15:10:47 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Aug 11 14:14:04 2012. Proff? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 11 15:14:06 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 11 15:02:32 2012. Willard has to carry a lot more states than just Wisconsin to pull this off. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 15:42:31 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 11 14:12:39 2012. It's a voucher plan that has tested negatively in polls.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 11 16:43:43 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 11 14:12:39 2012. The Medicare reductions in ACA are related to waste and unnecessary treatment. They do not in any way compromise care,nor prevent anyone from accessing the needed care. The Ryanvoucherplans will. Subscribers, meaning your parents and eventually YOU, will not only be paying absurd premium prices, but high copays as well. Many will forgo care in order to be able to eat or keep a roof over their head. So Ryanvoucherplan will bring back the death panels as well....through denied claims by insurers & rescissions. Don't forget, there's no Obamacare protections against the insurance companies in Ryanvoucherplan, because there's no ACA. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 11 16:45:33 2012, in response to So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 13:37:12 2012. I'm almost sad Ryan isn't at the top of the ticket. Clearly he knows how to argue his points. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Aug 11 16:56:07 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 11 14:12:39 2012. A lot of seniors care that their kids' Medicare will be shredded under Ryan. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Aug 11 16:56:31 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 11 14:19:47 2012. Give it up! |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 17:17:00 2012, in response to This: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 11 16:45:33 2012. When the clip is called "The Best of..." I don't expect bloopers. :)your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Aug 11 18:10:18 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 11 13:46:24 2012. You have no idea what Biden is capable of.He's gonna destroy the little schoolboy. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Aug 11 18:11:40 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 11 14:12:39 2012. Ryan has voted repeatedly to reverse the closing of the Medicare D doughnut hole. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Aug 11 18:12:55 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Aug 11 15:02:32 2012. If Romney does not carry Wisconsin, Obama likely wins the election.Where's the map? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 11 18:19:07 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by SMAZ on Sat Aug 11 18:11:40 2012. Why was there a doughnut hole in the first place? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Aug 11 18:19:41 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 11 18:19:07 2012. Not sure. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 11 18:25:52 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by SMAZ on Sat Aug 11 18:10:18 2012. Just for starters, "Atlas Shrugged" is *fiction*. It is not a basis for government. He will be eviscerated for attempting to model reality after a dystopian fairy tale. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 11 18:29:56 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by SMAZ on Sat Aug 11 18:19:41 2012. Here's an explanation |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 11 18:31:22 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by SMAZ on Sat Aug 11 18:12:55 2012. Http://electoral-vote.comChanges almost daily. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 18:33:03 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 11 18:25:52 2012. I think he looks silly talking about God when he's patterned himself after a devout atheist.Christ and Ayn don't mix. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Aug 11 18:35:17 2012, in response to So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 13:37:12 2012. How cute, the first time you heard of him.It's the precious moments like these that go in the scrapbook. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Aug 11 18:36:52 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 11 13:46:24 2012. Destroy biden by being more compassionate with him? Supporting better state and medicare healthcare systems than Biden? Being more charitable than him?Or you mean just a fresh young face versus an old white guy, which is poison to the democratic party voters? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 11 18:45:16 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Aug 11 14:41:28 2012. Nope ... the Ryan plan would give you $3000 a year to pay insurance companies that would consider you too expensive to insure. Remember all that "death panel" stuff? They want your vote. LOL! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 11 18:48:04 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 11 18:45:16 2012. If I were you, I'd vote for the other guy. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 11 18:54:32 2012, in response to So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 13:37:12 2012. Your questions, answered:1) He's probably headed to an early retirement. That's a good thing. He was promoting a dangerous budget that eviscerates not only Medicare, but Social Security, Medicaid, food programs including school lunches, education funding, aid to veterans, aid to localities and will NOT erase the deficit until 2040. 2) I don't know how handing off everyone over 50 to the President is going help Willard win. Ryan isn't all that popular even in his home state, and probably won't even deliver it.  3) Hard to say. Heartless bastards? Genuine pricks? Those 2 groups are already supporting Willard. He may pick up the mathematically inept. 
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 18:58:31 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by orange blossom special on Sat Aug 11 18:35:17 2012. It's the precious moments like these that go in the scrapbook.Like that pic of you in drag? :) your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 19:01:45 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 11 18:54:32 2012. Nate Silver says that Romney must have felt he had a losing position against Obama and so needed a real game changer. Well, here it is.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 11 19:07:37 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 19:01:45 2012. So now he has a real losing position against the President. No need to feel that. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Aug 11 19:21:28 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 11 18:54:32 2012. You just gave me everything that Obama spent 3 years doing....But I feel like answering you in quotes for now on. Biden called Ryan a “a bright, handsome guy from the state of Wisconsin. He’s a fine guy.” |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Aug 11 19:34:55 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 11 18:31:22 2012. As of today: DEM: 317, GOP 212. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Aug 11 19:45:14 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 11 18:54:32 2012. iawtp |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 11 19:50:34 2012, in response to So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 13:37:12 2012. What's so good about him?The lefties' reaction speaks for itself. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 11 19:57:10 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 11 19:50:34 2012. Indeed! You guys REALLY screwed up this time! :) |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 11 19:57:13 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by orange blossom special on Sat Aug 11 19:21:28 2012. That's what the Senate has spent the past 3 years stopping from happening.The approval rating for the Ryan "budget" rivals that of the current Congress. Source for that quote, please.... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 11 19:58:01 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 11 19:57:13 2012. The right doesn't NEED to prove anything. They've got Goebbels on their side. :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 20:41:09 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Aug 11 14:14:04 2012. The Obama plan for seniors is far worse.Howso? your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 11 20:45:33 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 11 20:41:09 2012. He's going to let them live. Romney and Ryan are going to hand them a check and kick them over the cliff. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sat Aug 11 20:56:33 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Aug 11 14:14:04 2012. I just hope we have a ConCon so that dogs like you get what you deserve. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sat Aug 11 20:59:12 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 11 19:58:01 2012. That's why you're WRONG about the Fairness Doctrine. Change begins with the Constitution. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 11 21:04:31 2012, in response to Re: So What's So Good About Ryan?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 11 20:45:33 2012. Isn't their plan to get them to sign the check, then they take it as they're pushed off the cliff? |
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