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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 14 17:28:45 2012 Even if they mangle the concept of swiftboating, at least they are strongly defending Romney from this Bain nonsense. I may have to unblock them:http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/07/14/cnn-accuses-obama-swiftboating-romney |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 14 17:40:40 2012, in response to CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 14 17:28:45 2012. The SEC will offer the proof not CNN. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 14 17:41:40 2012, in response to CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 14 17:28:45 2012. What part of this is real don't you get? He signed 13Ds. Not being completely straightforward about that act,dismissing it as some variety of formality isn't going to absolve him of felony perjury, should evidence appear that he did NOT actively manage Bain during that time.This isn't swiftboating. Swiftboating requires the quick transmission of lies. We don't quite know what we have here, but we do have something. It's sitting in the offices of the SEC. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 14 18:16:33 2012, in response to CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 14 17:28:45 2012. hmm even the Murdoch paper is not defending Mitt, and even fellow republicans are asking Mitt to release financial data ??http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/obama_keeps_hitting_mitt_on_jobs_s7eTbAaGUzknZIfpIe5III |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Jul 14 18:30:59 2012, in response to CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 14 17:28:45 2012. Obama had Birthers...Romney has Bain Capital. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 14 18:36:03 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 14 18:16:33 2012. Screw that ... we want to see his BIRTH CERTIFICATE. What is his real name? :) |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 14 21:05:06 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 14 18:36:03 2012. Never thought I'd live to see an election involving a Barak and a Willard! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 14 21:13:24 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 14 21:05:06 2012. Even MORE amazing is that we're nowhere near October yet! :) |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Jul 14 23:08:29 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 14 21:13:24 2012. Dubya's having too much fun since he left office. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 14 23:26:09 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Jul 14 23:08:29 2012. "Qualis artifex pereo." ("What an artist the world loses in me.") |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 14 23:37:53 2012, in response to CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 14 17:28:45 2012. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 14 23:47:10 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 14 23:37:53 2012. Excellent ad, Of course:we're now over 3 years without a budget, We're now over 40 consecutive months of 8+% unemployment. 5 million people have been unemployed more than 2 years When obama took office 1 in 24 were on food stamps. Today its 1 in 7 Workplaces are getting safer but those on disability has increased from 2 million to 8 million. Obviously obama has been proven not to be the solution either |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 14 23:51:52 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 14 23:47:10 2012. I don't like the ad. The food stamp stuff bothers me. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 00:00:55 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 14 23:51:52 2012. Well there are several ways to look at the food stamp thing. Either they are making it easier for more people to get food stamps to build their base of support OR things have really gotten much worse in 3+ years. This can't be all Bush's fault. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 00:04:34 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 14 23:51:52 2012. why does food stamp bother you? you probably have never been on them in your life.and only dummies think it's for blacks. it's for immigrants. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 15 00:05:22 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 00:00:55 2012. I meant that it has been a priority to actively recruit new people to apply and receive food stamps. Lots of money spent on advertising. And yes I do cynically think that it's to both increase dependency on the government and the Democrat voting base. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 00:05:46 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 14 23:37:53 2012. obama is spending big money now, so far ahead of the campaign. he's banking on the MSM being his main campaign vehicle in October. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 00:07:22 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 00:04:34 2012. If people need them, I think that they are great but if food stamp use has grown 3 times in under 4 years either there is massive abuse or things are far worse in obamaland than we realize. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 15 00:07:53 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 00:04:34 2012. See my other post. It's not the ad. It bothers me that the program was grown in the way that it was. Don't get me wrong, I want people to get help when they need it, but people already know when they can't afford to eat. All the radio ads telling people that they might qualify even if they think that they don't. That stuff. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 00:08:53 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Easy on Sun Jul 15 00:05:22 2012. I'm certainly glad that it is bothering others, too. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 00:10:15 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 00:07:22 2012. when i lived in Forest Hills and Richmond Hill, most of my neighbors and people I saw at the pharmacy or supermarket were on food stamps and free meds. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 00:12:06 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Easy on Sun Jul 15 00:07:53 2012. What also bothers me is the 4X growth in the disabled. Workplaces, thanks to OSHA & the Dept. of Labor and industry safety initiatives are far safer that they were just 10 years ago. So why the jump in the disability rolls. Last month 85,000 new disabled vs 80,000 new jobs created. There is something wrong. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 00:13:07 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 00:10:15 2012. And its growing out of control. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 15 00:13:19 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 00:12:06 2012. Interesting. I hadn't heard about that. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 00:16:51 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Easy on Sun Jul 15 00:07:53 2012. just saw it.Do you think Red Tails was strategically released this year to coincide with the elections? Makes total sense. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 00:24:53 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Easy on Sun Jul 15 00:13:19 2012. LINKLINK The numbers are a bit more conservative than the ones I posted but the message is just as damning |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 15 00:25:52 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 00:16:51 2012. lol. I never heard of red tails before now. What would it have to do with the election? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 00:28:59 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 00:16:51 2012. Explain the significance. please. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 15 00:29:03 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 00:24:53 2012. Crazy! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 00:34:21 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Easy on Sun Jul 15 00:25:52 2012. it's the right kind of theme for this election year. timing is perfect. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 00:35:15 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 00:28:59 2012. a movie about institutional discrimination being released during an election year makes sense if your goal is to get Obama re-elected. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 15 00:37:03 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 00:35:15 2012. Not if it sucks. To answer your question, I don't think that this has anything to do with the election based on what I know so far. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 15 06:49:07 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 00:05:46 2012. They're banking on sending Romney to the convention bloodied, much like Dole was in 96. It's working.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 06:58:31 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 15 06:49:07 2012. I don't even remember who Dole was.I didn't vote that year. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 15 07:03:32 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 06:58:31 2012. Bob Dole remembers. He was one of the last of the sane GOP. Or maybe it's just relative compared to current events.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jul 15 07:22:14 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 15 07:03:32 2012. sane ?? till his Viagra comercial maybe ;-) |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 15 07:23:07 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jul 15 07:22:14 2012. Well yeah I was talking about while he was in the Senate. All bets are off once they retire :)your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 07:24:13 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 15 07:03:32 2012. 99.9% of America is decided on what party to vote for. It's just a matter of who gets their side to come out.Will Romney's off-shore accounts and being CEO of Bain Capitalism be enough to get people to come out and vote for Obama? Probably not. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 15 07:26:25 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 07:24:13 2012. LOL, bullshit. There's always change in any election cycle and nothing is a lock.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 07:32:10 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 15 07:26:25 2012. I have been waiting four years to vote against Obama. You have been waiting four years to vote for him. What has changed? Nothing.It's all about getting your base, or "elements" out to vote. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 15 07:47:57 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 07:32:10 2012. I know but we're just sick fucks. Other people don't necessarily think like us.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 15 08:40:26 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 00:12:06 2012. Afghanistan and even more, Iraq vets.The VA provides medical treatment. They don't help with living expenses. Many have permanent brain damage. They're not employable and probably will never be. Had bush not invaded Iraq, this problem would be significantly decreased. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 15 09:15:15 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 00:05:46 2012. He has plenty to spend,not needing to finance costly primaries. Willard's technically broke.Both have plenty for the general campaign, but cannot spend it now, so he has to depend on outside groups, uncoordinated, to provide response (remember what he said about "only losers respond"....well.....this brought about those embarrassing 5 network interviews)which they clearly are not doing. Instead they are harping on the state of the economy, which many see as improving, showing that even they are out of touch. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 09:26:12 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 00:04:34 2012. Actually, whites receive, across the board, more federal entitlements (including food stamps) than black people, period.These figures are for January of this year, and were compiled by the Bureau of Vital Statistics and the USDA. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 09:30:03 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 15 06:49:07 2012. Dole was never above 41% in the polls. Romney is in a virtual dead heat depending on which poll you choose to believe. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 09:32:16 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 09:26:12 2012. Would that be regular whites or the non-Hispanic whites? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 15 09:38:40 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 09:30:03 2012. The strategy and effect is the same tho. Point taken about Dole's lesser standing.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 09:39:45 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 09:32:16 2012. Aren't those two groups one and the same? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 09:41:18 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 07:24:13 2012. Romney is not the solution, he is the problem. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 09:47:50 2012, in response to Re: CNN: Democrats are trying to swiftboat Romney, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 09:39:45 2012. Apparently not any more. According to the media and apparently our government, Non-Hispanic whites are a new and separate demographic entity |
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