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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man有eftist Broward County

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 5 15:03:05 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man有eftist Broward County, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 14:58:00 2012.

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Same could be said for this lifeguard. You could understand if he didn't respond but he did.

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man有eftist Broward County

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 15:05:52 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man有eftist Broward County, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 5 15:03:05 2012.

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And if there was a fire in Valley Stream and the homeowner found out that local firemen were late responding because they were responding to a fire in another county, there would be hell to pay.

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man有eftist Broward County

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 5 15:08:38 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man有eftist Broward County, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 15:05:52 2012.

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Perhaps. Then again the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I guess Cedarhurst would have to respond tot he Valley Stream Fire.

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 5 15:19:33 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 5 14:52:53 2012.

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Once again, would you put yourself in grave risk of death to save someone else's life?

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 5 15:20:31 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 5 14:53:35 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Busdude's post was the appeal to emotion.

And as for your post, you did not qualify it that way.

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 5 15:22:03 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 14:56:57 2012.

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If the precedent is allowed, then people can get sued because the lifeguard on their beach didn't save someone on an adjacent beach.

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Re: Lifeguard Fired offered his job back

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 5 15:56:14 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired offered his job back, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 14:37:31 2012.

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How?

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 16:00:16 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 5 14:52:53 2012.

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SWIM AT YOUR OWN RISK. It's wrong to go swimming then get in trouble and place responsibility on neighboring municipalities to save you.



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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man有eftist Broward County

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 16:05:04 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man有eftist Broward County, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 5 15:08:38 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Perhaps

not "perhaps". Absolutely. And if the homeowner was you or anyone on subchat, and found out that your firemen were late responding to a fire at your home because they were covering a county they're not supposed to, you would be outraged and feel betrayed. And hire an attorney too.



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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man有eftist Broward County

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 5 16:07:38 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man有eftist Broward County, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 16:05:04 2012.

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However fire companies are in the regular business of assisting each other when a call is made. That is not the case for lifeguards.

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 16:25:57 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 5 15:22:03 2012.

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Exactly.

And no one is considering the liability insurance. That's why I agree with the firemen in Tennessee who didn't put out a fire at a home that they were not responsible for.

In this case, the insurance provider for the company employing the lifeguards will be able to say "Hey, you're covering more area than you said you would, we're terminating the coverage or increasing your cost immediately because you're responding to calls in a bigger area than specified".



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Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jul 5 16:33:05 2012, in response to Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 02:52:44 2012.

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Replace the NAZIprenuer with UNION PUBLIC EMPLOYEES.

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Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 5 16:34:31 2012, in response to Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jul 5 16:33:05 2012.

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The last thing we need is lazy lifeguards.

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Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 16:39:34 2012, in response to Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jul 5 16:33:05 2012.

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and when they're off duty, arrest those who enter the water at own risk like they do in NaziYC? that's what the Nazi's do in NYC because all the lowlife animal scum sue the city when a loved one drowns after 6p. such lawsuits should be thrown out.

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Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jul 5 16:43:44 2012, in response to Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 5 16:34:31 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Fuck you. BTW, You never answered my question.

ANSWER THE DAMNED QUESTION!!!

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Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 5 16:44:52 2012, in response to Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jul 5 16:43:44 2012.

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I don't play your dirty games.

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Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 5 16:45:36 2012, in response to Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 16:39:34 2012.

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No, they shouldn't. But there should be immunity for the city.

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Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 16:48:03 2012, in response to Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 5 16:45:36 2012.

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Well the city responded to the lawsuits by throwing everyone out of the water or into jail.

i feel bad for human beings who come home for work and want to go for a swim at Rockaway or Coney Island. Can't do it after 6pm. NYC is truly a police state.

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Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 5 16:49:07 2012, in response to Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 16:48:03 2012.

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This is the rational option for the city without some kind of statute immunizing them. IMO.

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Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jul 5 16:52:09 2012, in response to Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 5 16:44:52 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Union hating scumbags like you shouldn't be allowed to hold a job or own a business.

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Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 5 16:53:56 2012, in response to Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jul 5 16:52:09 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Vile, foul-mouthed scumbags like you shouldn't be allowed to interact with human beings.

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by busdude2 on Thu Jul 5 17:00:32 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 5 15:19:33 2012.

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He wanted to help no one made him.

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 5 17:03:19 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by busdude2 on Thu Jul 5 17:00:32 2012.

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He was at work and not free to do as he pleased.

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by busdude2 on Thu Jul 5 17:15:17 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 5 17:03:19 2012.

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Well he did the right thing that is why they offered him his job back now. And good for him he told them no. I hope he told them to shove it up their a**.

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Re: All lifeguards fired offered their job back

Posted by Dave on Thu Jul 5 18:27:27 2012, in response to Lifeguard Fired offered his job back, posted by Dave on Thu Jul 5 14:33:12 2012.

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The nine other lifeguards, who either quit in solidarity or were fired for stating publicly that they would also do as Lopez did, have been also offered their jobs back, the Sun Sentinal reports.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/05/hero-or-legal-liability/?test=latestnews#ixzz1zn1wPN5W


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Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by Dave on Thu Jul 5 18:28:08 2012, in response to Re: Why we need BIG LABOR backLifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jul 5 16:33:05 2012.

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What are you ranting about now?

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Re: All lifeguards fired offered their job back

Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jul 5 18:33:13 2012, in response to Re: All lifeguards fired offered their job back, posted by Dave on Thu Jul 5 18:27:27 2012.

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They should all go back and sign "A-cards".

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Re: All lifeguards fired offered their job back

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 18:41:41 2012, in response to Re: All lifeguards fired offered their job back, posted by Dave on Thu Jul 5 18:27:27 2012.

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The insurance provider for the company employing the lifeguards should either drop them or raise their rates. The lifeguards on duty have a specified area to protect but they feel the need to answer calls beyond that area, so the insurance rates need to reflect that.

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Re: All lifeguards fired offered their job back

Posted by Fred G on Thu Jul 5 18:52:08 2012, in response to Re: All lifeguards fired offered their job back, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 18:41:41 2012.

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Insurance goes by probability and I dunno what the probability of this happening again is.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: All lifeguards fired offered their job back

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 18:58:01 2012, in response to Re: All lifeguards fired offered their job back, posted by Fred G on Thu Jul 5 18:52:08 2012.

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If the lifeguards are protecting a larger area of beach, the probability will increase. The rates need to be adjusted higher to reflect the fact that the lifeguards are working more area than their insurance provider may have originally thought.

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Re: All lifeguards fired offered their job back

Posted by Fred G on Thu Jul 5 20:09:48 2012, in response to Re: All lifeguards fired offered their job back, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 18:58:01 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You may be right. We have guys here who do this stuff for a living and I'd like to hear ehat they say.

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 5 22:18:47 2012, in response to Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 02:52:44 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
good.

They pay him for doing his job, not for not doing his job.
His job is to remain at his post and aid people in his AO.

Have the Mayor give this guy a medal for doing a good deed as a private citizen but as a lifeguard he is derelict in his duties.

Give him a long suspension.

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man有eftist Broward County

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 6 02:50:11 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man有eftist Broward County, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 16:05:04 2012.

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Never heard of "MUTUAL AID"? QUITE COMMON AMONG VOLUNTEER FDs

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man有eftist Broward County

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 6 02:59:55 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man有eftist Broward County, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 14:58:00 2012.

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Send the Brentwood FD

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 6 03:13:03 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by busdude2 on Thu Jul 5 13:46:38 2012.

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My sympathy on your brothers passing

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 6 03:20:16 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 13:50:07 2012.

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You are truly a cold heartless fuck. SMH

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by busdude2 on Fri Jul 6 05:14:40 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 6 03:13:03 2012.

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Thank you he got caught in a rip tide and had a heart attack trying to swim out of it.

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Jul 6 09:54:58 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 16:00:16 2012.

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I would suspect there are NO "Swim at your own risk" signs there. Luch, you have a narrow gauge mind in a standard gauge world.

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 6 10:05:04 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Jul 6 09:54:58 2012.

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Who said there have to be SWIM AT YOUR OWN RISK signs?

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Jul 6 10:05:48 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 6 10:05:04 2012.

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Luch!!

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 6 10:11:10 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Jul 6 10:05:48 2012.

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Nope.

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jul 6 11:38:18 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by busdude2 on Thu Jul 5 17:15:17 2012.

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Awesome, I'm glad they did! Also, I highly agree with the rest of the post.

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Re: Dan Lawrence The Douchebag Scumbag Retard Is Always Wrong

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 6 14:39:08 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Jul 6 09:54:58 2012.

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Dan Lawrence the douchebag scumbag pretty much sums up what you are.

If you bothered to read the article, it clearly states that the man was swimming in an area where there are warning signs.

You're a fucking joke Dan Lawrence. A fucking joke. No one can be so fucking stupid. You clearly do it for attention.

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Jul 6 14:47:22 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 6 10:05:04 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
This is what Luchie wrote:

"SWIM AT YOUR OWN RISK. It's wrong to go swimming then get in trouble and place responsibility on neighboring municipalities to save you."






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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by TERRapin station on Fri Jul 6 14:48:18 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Jul 6 14:47:22 2012.

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And?

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 6 14:48:56 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Jul 6 10:05:48 2012.

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Scumbag Lawrence. Read the fucking article. It says that there were warning signs.

You're a fucking clown. You behave like this on purpose because you like the attention.

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Jul 6 15:00:32 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by TERRapin station on Fri Jul 6 14:48:18 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He IMPLIED that there was a sign there even though Luchie never says it in his statement. You on the otherhand will use your default and declare my post as FALSE. We know your tactics already....turtle.

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 6 15:03:41 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Jul 6 15:00:32 2012.

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You're another fucking idiot. Read the story I posted. There were warning signs.

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by TERRapin station on Fri Jul 6 15:18:38 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Jul 6 15:00:32 2012.

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No he did not imply that. That's the point. And Spider-pig already said so.

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Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Jul 6 15:19:47 2012, in response to Re: Lifeguard Fired For Saving Drowning Man, posted by TERRapin station on Fri Jul 6 15:18:38 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
"No he did not imply that."

Yes...he did.....indirectly......check your textbooks under COMMON SENSE and then get back to me.....

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