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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 11:50:21 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 11:47:53 2012. Because we were discussing income tax. No one was discussing sales tax. We are all subject to sales tax equally, of course depending on what you buy, or how much of it. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 12:10:24 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 11:50:21 2012. Why don't you just answer the question....why did you say "tax", which is a general term encompassing all taxes, instead of simply specifying which tax you thought was at issue? WTF are you afraid of, it isn't too much to ask. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 12:35:54 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 12:10:24 2012. WTF are you afraid of, it isn't too much to ask.You really are certifiable. Stop grandstanding, you know damn well I was discussing income tax. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 13:10:33 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 12:35:54 2012. Stop attempting to twist the conversation, and answer the question like a civilized person. Are all RWers as neanderthal as you're behaving here? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 21 13:37:05 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 07:28:19 2012. true, but the Upper East Side has it's share of winners because so many servants work there and play there because it's convenient. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 13:39:37 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 13:10:33 2012. Stop being ridiculous. Sales tax has nothing to do with this discussion and you damn well knew and know that.Nothing better to say to dispute the facts? Start with utter nonsense. The left's trait. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 14:09:54 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 21 13:37:05 2012. That doesn't differ from my statement that it's mostly poor people that play lotto. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 14:50:41 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 13:39:37 2012. I discussed those facts. You choose to ignore the fact that poor people pay more as a percentage of income in sales tax and other taxes, such as FICA. Then you get allindignat when told of what reality is. Then you deny it. Real neanderthal of you. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 18:05:41 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 08:06:39 2012. The problem with those numbers though keeps getting back to the most salient point ... the "rich" don't PAY "income" tax, wage-earners pay that. And there's no source for the numbers you posted. What blog? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 20:47:17 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 18:05:41 2012. They do pay income tax.http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/incometaxandtheirs/a/who-pays-most-income-tax.htm |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 20:58:57 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 20:47:17 2012. Heh. Would it help any if I were to tell you that about.com is the New York Times? I know how you regard "propaganda" from the NY Times, that's the NY Times. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 21:00:19 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 20:58:57 2012. Ah, the NYT, then you should be happy about it even more.And why would I care if it's the NY TImes? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 21:01:19 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 21:00:19 2012. ....and if you want to call the NYT a "blog", be my guest. I guess that was the best you could come up with to debate the post presented. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 21:07:11 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 21:00:19 2012. But you keep saying that if it's in the NY Times, then it's not credible. Now, because it suits your rap it's suddenly credible now? NY Times doesn't impress me either, but about.com impresses me even less.And you should be more aware than most that when an article is written for a web site that doesn't do much in the way of checking that you can take numbers and labels and assert that the Dalai Lama is Breitbart's reincarnation. Doesn't make it so just because it says it somewhere on the internet. All I'm saying is that those numbers are apparently carefully chosen since really wealthy people don't earn wages and tips, and calling it "income tax" when their "income" is mostly capital gains, rents and royalties doesn't make it comparable to someone who punches a clock by any means. That said, if that's what you want to believe and run with, that's fine by me. But forgive me if I lulz. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 21:20:50 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 21:07:11 2012. I never say anything against the Times, other than it sways left. In fact, in keeping with that, this revelation should be even more upsetting to you, if the Times is saying these statistics about who pays the country's taxes.And it doesn't matter if they earn wages or tips, they still earn income, even if they live on just interest income. You still have to pay income tax on that. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 21:25:33 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 21:20:50 2012. Doesn't upset me in the least. What I find amusing here is that for all these years, the republican mantra was that the rich are so few in number, along with that magical "top ten" that their contributions to the federal budget are so small as to be meaningless and therefore any additional taxation on them would bring us no benefit. That we must institute a national sales tax of 15% and cut their taxes even more since their money doesn't do anything.And now this ... LOL |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 21:28:14 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 21:25:33 2012. Ah that was the best you could come up with to dispute the facts. It's as good as your usual "Like it matters anyway", or "I find amusing", or "people are talking about this instead of the real issues".....all your usual checkmate remarks. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 21:31:33 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 21:28:14 2012. Uh yeah ... that's the ticket. :) |
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