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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 20 14:04:33 2012 ... of taxpayers:http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-eduardo-saverins-not-the-only-one-trying-to-save-money-by-renouncing-his-citizenship-2012-5 |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun May 20 14:08:27 2012, in response to Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 20 14:04:33 2012. Welcome to RW patriotism, which for them begins and ends at "me". |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 20 14:09:46 2012, in response to Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 20 14:04:33 2012. Good riddance. Being an American is a PRIVILEGE. |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Sun May 20 14:17:37 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by bingbong on Sun May 20 14:08:27 2012. Nazis aren't very good Americans, that's for sure. |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Sun May 20 14:20:18 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 20 14:09:46 2012. Nazi so called Job Creators need to learn to add value to their society rather than alwauys taking. That's why I like Sen Schumer's EX-Patriot Act. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 20 17:54:45 2012, in response to Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 20 14:04:33 2012. Just like over in France. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:29:23 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by bingbong on Sun May 20 14:08:27 2012. And the leftwing propaganda that basically thinks other people's money is free game.This whole manufactured war on the rich is nothing short of class warfare. 50% of the country pays most of the taxes. Those people SUPPORT all the left wing programs. Without them, the left can't have their programs, and the country could not run. It's not the other 50% that provides the country with it's income. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:30:37 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 20 14:09:46 2012. But the country can't run without "the rich". Who do you think provides most of the tax money in this country? You can't run the country on a country of poor. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 03:38:27 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:29:23 2012. Well stated!It's about time that those who earn less than $250,000 a year pay the 35% rate and those of us who earn more shouldn't pay anything. Romney and his party are correct. It's about time you deadbeats paid up! :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 21 03:43:41 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:29:23 2012. You've drunk the Flavor Aid. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 21 03:45:42 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:30:37 2012. Using middle and working class labor. The smart people who have great ideas deserve their money. The idle rich are worthless deadbeats. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:50:37 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 03:38:27 2012. I am not paying the other 50% should be paying more. I am saying that the country NEED "the rich", as they are the ones that provide the income for the country, which it needs to run.The "war on the rich" and the class warfare is not productive, and makes little sense. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon May 21 03:50:44 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:30:37 2012. Certainly isn't the rich... its the middle class... cause there's more middle class than there is rich last I checked. If everyone was rich I don't think we'd be having this conversation. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:51:19 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:50:37 2012. Heh, damn spell check.... "I am not SAYING...." is what that first sentence should say.... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 03:53:09 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 21 03:43:41 2012. Dry ... :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:53:12 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by ClearAspect on Mon May 21 03:50:44 2012. The top 1 percent: Americans who earned an adjusted gross income of $410,096 or more accounted for 22.8 percent of all wages. But they paid 40.4 percent of total reported income taxes, an increase from 39.9 percent in 2006, according to the IRS.The top 5 percent: Americans who earned $160,041 or more accounted for 37.4 percent of all wages in 2007. But they paid 60.6 percent of the country's total reported income taxes, up from 60.1 percent a year earlier. The top 10 percent: Americans who earned at least $113,018 paid 71.2 percent of the nation's income taxes, up from 70.8 percent a year earlier. The top 25 percent: Americans who earned at least $66,532 paid 86.6 percent of the nation's income taxes, up from 86.3 percent a year earlier. The top 50 percent: Americans who earned at least $32,879 paid 97.1 percent of the nation's income taxes, up from 97 percent a year earlier. The bottom 50 percent: Americans who earned less than $32,879 paid 2.9 percent of the nation's income taxes, down from 3 percent a year earlier. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 21 03:56:10 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:53:12 2012. LOL. Just about every Port Authority cop is a 5%er and probably in the 3%. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 21 03:58:28 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:53:12 2012. In fact, just about every Transit worker in a dual income household should be an evil top 10%er.Some would be in the 5%. Especially a T/D, TSS or Super in a dual-income household. They are ahead of 95% of the country. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 21 03:59:26 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:53:12 2012. LOL! Wages are not a significant source of income for the top percentile.Why did you only list wages for the top vigintile? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 04:01:46 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 21 03:59:26 2012. It's not "wages", it's "income" AND Wages. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 21 04:04:14 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 21 03:59:26 2012. You think most 1%ers are earning cap gains, and not wages? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 04:04:36 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:50:37 2012. Well ... hate to break it to you, but that's their plan. Rich pay nothing, YOU make up the difference. You really ought to pay more attention instead of listening to what the shills are selling you at the carney, bro ... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 21 04:05:46 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 04:04:36 2012. Rich pay nothing? Nothing? Zero dollars? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 04:05:57 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 21 03:59:26 2012. Because that's the shit THEY'RE selling. Poor little fuckers, having to live off gratuities. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 04:07:15 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 04:01:46 2012. Hahahahaha!Wanna know why we pay shit for taxes? *WE* get paid in royalties and rents and capital gains. No "wages" there ... That's why the republicans hit up wages ... they don't DO "wages" ... those go to what Leona Helmsley called "the little people" ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 04:10:34 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 21 04:04:14 2012. Ever wonder why the BIG "financial thing" now is "intellectual property" such as patents? Them's "ROYALTIES" ... excludable as "income" and taxed at a VERY low rate. Same for cap gains ... it's not the RATE, it's the EXCLUSIONS that make the effective rate ... nothing! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 04:11:52 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 21 04:05:46 2012. Some ... they're sure paying a fuckload less than their secretaries. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 21 04:47:51 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 04:11:52 2012. Since we're talking about the rich, I don't see anyone winning NJ Pick 6 on 5/21. Look for a winner this Thursday or next Monday during Memorial Day weekend. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 05:00:51 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 21 04:47:51 2012. Heh. Rest assured, the rich don't lotto. The only winner is the gaming company and sometimes the state. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 07:27:17 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 04:04:36 2012. Oh please. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 07:28:19 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 05:00:51 2012. Well this is true. Go into a deli or 7-11 in a not so great neighborhood and the line is out the door with poor people plopping their money down on lotto. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 07:30:41 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 04:07:15 2012. Doesn't change the percentages of who and what percentages pay the taxes in the country. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 07:31:26 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 07:27:17 2012. ... and thank you. Please don't forget thank you. You're welcome. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 07:32:23 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 07:30:41 2012. Actually, it does. *YOU* get to make up the difference. How's that working out for ya? :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 07:33:58 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 07:32:23 2012. No, the percentages ARE of who pays what. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 07:40:49 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 07:33:58 2012. Wages and salaries and tips? One of them 1040's? LOL |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 08:06:39 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 07:40:49 2012. No, the percentages of who pays what is accurate. (Such as the top 10% pays 71% of the taxes, or the top 50% pay 91% of the taxes). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 21 08:15:02 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 04:01:46 2012. Your source said wages, not income. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 21 08:16:29 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 07:30:41 2012. Which is irrelevant because high incomes have low marginal utility. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 10:37:05 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:29:23 2012. I've always been an advocate of having everyone pay income taxes. Even if it's just $10/head. Not only would that generate a lot of money, it would put everyone in the position of taxpayer, so everyone has a voice they can use. That would eliminate your "class" structure as the republicans designed. (this whole50% thing is the result of Reagan tax deform) |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 10:45:52 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:50:37 2012. The "war on the rich" is happening because they AREN'T paying more, want to pay less and have the access to power the rest of us could only dream of.Along that line of thought, there are no "job creators". If the rich were "job creators" they'd be creating jobs. They aren't. Time for them to seriously pony up instead. 
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 10:57:10 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 10:37:05 2012. So you would prefer that rich people pay the same amount as poor people. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 10:58:23 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 10:45:52 2012. LOL, they create jobs every day. I don't think I have ever been hired to work for a poor person. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 11:06:57 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 10:57:10 2012. Wrong. I said everyone should pay. There also needs to be more brackets to ensure the rich and richest of the rich pay a fair amount. There used to be, but Reagan's people saw fit to lump the rich in with the upper middle class.That doesn't mean that anyone shouldn't pay. All should pay even a token amount, if only to ensure their voice as they too will then "skin in the game". It eliminates the argument from the rich that they are paying for the poor, who they think aren't rich for some imagined reason and are therefore unworthy of life itself. Fact is, the majority of poor people aren't paid well enough by their employers....the rich, so it's actually their doings create and perpetuate poverty. Nor will they effectively support public schools so the poor have the knowledge base to improve their lives. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 11:18:29 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 10:58:23 2012. No they don't. Welcome to reality, and the current economy. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 11:19:22 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 11:06:57 2012. Again, it doesn't change the fact that 75% of taxes are paid by the top 10%. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 11:21:05 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 11:18:29 2012. How many poor people have you been employed by? |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 11:21:55 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 11:19:22 2012. Income taxes, perhaps. Other taxes are far more equitably distributed (especially sales tax, which was once confined to luxuries as it should be) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 11:25:38 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 11:21:55 2012. We aren't talking about sales tax. We are talking about Income tax. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 11:47:53 2012, in response to Re: Obama presidency causing spike in exports ..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 11:25:38 2012. So why do you just say "tax". "Tax" includes all taxes, income tax is just one of them.Income tax should be progressive and universal. |
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