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Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama "The First Gay President"

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:50:07 2012

has put Obama on their cover this week as 'The First Gay President', complete with rainbow halo. Hailing the President's record on LGBT issues, EIC Tina Brown writes, "Obama has earned every stripe in this haloed rainbow". Obama has, far more than any President before him, been an advocate for, and assistant of, the LGBT community in our struggle to achieve equality in America today.

The firestorm continues.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 13 21:58:04 2012, in response to Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama "The First Gay President", posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:50:07 2012.

no one cares. you won.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 13 21:58:35 2012, in response to Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama "The First Gay President", posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:50:07 2012.

Given that Newsweek is now owned by Tina Brown and "Daily Beast" after old man Harman died, can't say I'm surprised they're doing this. It's all about catching eyeballs for their website ...

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:59:39 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 13 21:58:04 2012.

Who lost?

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:02:22 2012, in response to Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama "The First Gay President", posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:50:07 2012.

I had other people say that earlier in the week. That Obama is the first "gay" President in the same way that Clinton was the first "black" President. Although I think that Obama really might be gay.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 22:04:09 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:02:22 2012.

I think the reference here is that Obama is an ally of the LGBT community, which is absolutely true.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:05:16 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 22:04:09 2012.

Even when he didn't support gay marriage 2 months ago?

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:09:21 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 22:04:09 2012.

Did you hear what Rand Paul said? That was out of line.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 13 22:13:33 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:02:22 2012.

????

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 13 22:14:01 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:59:39 2012.

obama is on so many covers I can't keep up.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 22:14:41 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:05:16 2012.

Obama has (among other things) ended the ban on gays and lesbians in our military, required all hospitals in the US that receive federal funding to allow the partners of gay and lesbian patients visitation rights, ended the 40-year ban on LGBT federal employees from receiving security clearances, issued executive orders prohibiting discrimination against LGBT job applicants for federal positions, and opened political asylum for those seeking to escape anti-gay persecution in their home countries.

PLUS, he came out in support of gay marriage. When I interviewed him last year, Obama was already moving towards support of marriage equality. New York's gay-marriage bill was about to be voted on, and his comment was "I'm proud to see democracy at work". Not quite a ringing endorsement of gay marriage, but a veiled indication of where Obama was going.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 22:15:33 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 13 22:14:01 2012.

So has every other American president since at least 1930.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:22:20 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 22:14:41 2012.

Do you think that if McCain had won that none of that would have happened?

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:22:38 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 13 22:13:33 2012.

!!!!

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by Train Dude on Sun May 13 22:25:03 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 22:15:33 2012.

obama may be the first president on a Wheaties box







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And the Churches React Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by JohnL on Sun May 13 22:28:00 2012, in response to Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama "The First Gay President", posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:50:07 2012.

Interesting article in the New York Times.

Salient quotation from a Lutheran minister’s sermon: “As Lutherans,” she preached, “we don’t give each part of the Bible equal weight. Luther described the Bible as ‘the cradle of Christ.’ The whole book contains the story of God, but some parts touch the baby more closely than others.” [This after the usual business of talking about Leviticus and shellfish etc]

Here’s a thought: is there any correlation between the willingness of a given part of the Christian church to ordain women and its willingness to accept gays?

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by JohnL on Sun May 13 22:28:59 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by Train Dude on Sun May 13 22:25:03 2012.

And you might be the first SubChat poster on the wall in the Post Office!

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 13 22:34:46 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:22:20 2012.

I think we can count on that. Palin woulda whooped his ass if he even thought about doing any of that ...

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:37:04 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by JohnL on Sun May 13 22:28:59 2012.

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that subchatters have been incarcerated. Or committed.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:39:46 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 13 22:34:46 2012.

It just seems like it was rapidly heading that way already, but I just looked it up and McCain supported DADT.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 13 22:43:30 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:37:04 2012.

Think "Darius" ... :)

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 13 22:44:38 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:39:46 2012.

As opposed to the alternative that Obama did because DADT was simply stupid. Now think of him at the podium thinking about changing that and picture a mama grizzly reaching for his neck. My job here is done. :)

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:46:56 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 13 22:43:30 2012.

lol. He never posted here afaik. On another (non-transit) forum a guy was busted in a sting trying to have sex with a 15yo girl. It only came out because 1 person that knew his real name saw his name in the paper. I wonder sometimes whether the people here that stop posting cold turkey got bored, computer died, got sick/died, or went to prison.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:49:29 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 13 22:44:38 2012.

DADT seems like it was never a good idea, but maybe it was necessary. I read that being gay was classified as a psychological disorder until 40 years ago.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 13 23:06:59 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:22:38 2012.

Seriously, WTF?

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 13 23:09:24 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:46:56 2012.

For a while here, I remember some suspicion. After all, this is OT ... who needs proff? :)

But wouldn't surprise me if we have a few alumni here. Particularly among the sanitarium enrollees. Heh.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by Easy on Sun May 13 23:10:24 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 13 23:06:59 2012.

He's thin, he's tall, and he's neat. What don't you get?

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 13 23:13:59 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:49:29 2012.

Bad science has been a hallmark of humanity since ... well ... forever. Once upon a time, it was believed that many diseases were caused by small toads. But yeah, DADT didn't make much sense at all - typical sweep it under the rug. They should have listened to Barry Goldwater back in the 80's, "You don't have to BE straight to fight for your country, you only have to SHOOT straight" ...

During the early days of the "war on terror" we lost a farkload of good translators and analysts because some moron thought they were gay. And when shells are flying, everybody is straight. :)

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 13 23:15:33 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by Easy on Sun May 13 23:10:24 2012.

So you're suggesting that Michelle looks kinda butch? :)

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 13 23:16:55 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:59:39 2012.

get ready for a ton of publicity for "secure communities" this week.

i figure you'll post about it. thanks. let me know when you can canvass for placard abusers.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 13 23:23:36 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 13 23:16:55 2012.

Good! Here's hoping they lose the key to the gate and can't get out this November. :)

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Re: And the Churches React Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 14 00:26:40 2012, in response to And the Churches React Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by JohnL on Sun May 13 22:28:00 2012.

Here’s a thought: is there any correlation between the willingness of a given part of the Christian church to ordain women and its willingness to accept gays?

The centrality of Christ's message was his of love for all our brothers and sisters (ALL OF THEM) and he asked us to follow His Way.

Discrimination and hate is immoral and UnChristian and is anathema to Christ's message of Brotherhood and Salvation.

Barack Obama walks with Jesus.

Like Jesus, he is The Way, The Truth and The Life.

God Bless Barack Obama, our first Gay President.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 14 00:29:26 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 13 22:43:30 2012.

or The Jacket Club.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 14 00:35:58 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by SMAZ on Mon May 14 00:29:26 2012.

Yeah, but "The Jacket Club" kinda has that awful John Hughes 80's teenage angst movie kinda ring to it. :)

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 01:16:00 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 13 22:34:46 2012.

LMAO!!!!!!

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Re: And the Churches React Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 01:17:48 2012, in response to Re: And the Churches React Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by SMAZ on Mon May 14 00:26:40 2012.

Who the fuck care what "Christ" said or didn't say in reference to our Countries laws? Religious fanatic.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 14 01:56:41 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 01:16:00 2012.



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Re: And the Churches React Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 14 01:58:18 2012, in response to Re: And the Churches React Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 01:17:48 2012.

But YOUR friends say this is a CHRISTIAN nation!



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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon May 14 06:24:07 2012, in response to Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama "The First Gay President", posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:50:07 2012.

Why not? If Bill Clinton could be the first black President, why can't Obama be the first gay president? Who cares what these magazines say anymore anyway? The print media is dying out, after a long multi-century run.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 07:20:12 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 14 01:56:41 2012.

?????????????

She wasn't running for president. What power does asshole Biden have aside from kicking his foot in his mouth at least once a month?

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Re: And the Churches React Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 07:20:33 2012, in response to Re: And the Churches React Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 14 01:58:18 2012.

My friends?

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 07:24:22 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by Mitch45 on Mon May 14 06:24:07 2012.

Especially Newsweek of all magazines. I thought they were about to gt out of business anyway....

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 14 07:29:53 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 07:24:22 2012.

they were going out of business but they were saved by someone with big money who wants to keep it alive as a vehicle for his political views.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 07:43:37 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 14 07:29:53 2012.

Yup. It's now a left wing propaganda tool.

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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon May 14 08:03:40 2012, in response to Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama "The First Gay President", posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:50:07 2012.

Bill Clinton the first Black President
So Obama has to settle for the first gay president.

'"Obama has earned every stripe in this haloed rainbow"'
always with the war-like rhetoric too.

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Re: And the Churches React Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 14 10:48:03 2012, in response to Re: And the Churches React Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 01:17:48 2012.

What is supposed to make the United States different from other nations is that our Declaration of Independence (which is this country's mission statement) is based on self-evident notions of truth, justice and equality.

That innate decency and morality is the cornerstone of the American Experiment.

We are not a nation based on an ethnic group like most other places.
We are one based on an Idea. A revolutionary one that was never done before.

Just like Christ's idea for all of humanity in all the world.

Putting obstacles and hurdles to the progress of these concepts is Un-American.

Somebody who believes that some Americans, through no fault of their own, do not deserve to seek the Pursuit of Happiness and share the Blessings of Liberty that this nation is founded upon has no place in America.



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Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 14 10:50:45 2012, in response to Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 14 07:29:53 2012.

That guy died.

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Re: And the Churches React Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon May 14 11:17:00 2012, in response to And the Churches React Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by JohnL on Sun May 13 22:28:00 2012.

I find this quotation interesting.

Initially, in my experience, Judaism believes that the dietary restrictions set forth in Leviticus only applies to the Children of Israel NOT the other nations of the world. Judaism has always maintained that Gentiles are free from all of the restrictions contained in the Hebrew Bible except for the Seven Noahide Laws.

Now, I understand that Christianity believes that the Hebrew Bible is also part of its Bible but that Christ's grace released everyone from many of the restrictions in Leviticus. Fair enough - either way, Gentiles have no obligation to keep the laws of Leviticus.

But for this minister to start "picking and choosing" which portions of the Bible's restrictions are to be given more or less weight is, to me, risky territory. Her comparison of the Bible to a cradle is misguided, in my opinion. Say you want to build a cradle. You say to yourself, "the parts that hold the baby will be built with the strongest materials, while the parts that don't touch the baby will be built of lesser material." Does anyone build a cradle that way? Should part of the cradle be built of solid oak and the rest of flimsy balsa wood?

To me, all of the words of God mean what they say and are given equal weight to each other, none less and none more. Once you start to rationalize and change the strength of the words, you weaken the whole thing.


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Re: And the Churches React Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by AlM on Mon May 14 11:35:52 2012, in response to Re: And the Churches React Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by Mitch45 on Mon May 14 11:17:00 2012.

To me, all of the words of God mean what they say and are given equal weight to each other, none less and none more. Once you start to rationalize and change the strength of the words, you weaken the whole thing.

But the Bible contradicts itself. You have to pick and choose, or else consider it all with a grain of salt, in those cases.



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Re: And the Churches React Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President''

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon May 14 11:42:10 2012, in response to Re: And the Churches React Re: Controversial Newsweek Cover Calls Obama ''The First Gay President'', posted by SMAZ on Mon May 14 10:48:03 2012.

+1,000

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