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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 13:28:40 2012 This fellow, Shin Dong-Huyk, was born in one of those prison camps. We really should have crushed the Kim regime in the early 50s, and anyone who thinks otherwise after reading this has no heart. Kim Jong-un and all the North Korean military and prison guards should be forced to endure the kind of conditions they impose on prison camp victims until their demise.London Evening Standard
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Posted by AlM on Mon Apr 30 13:39:00 2012, in response to Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be "paradise", posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 13:28:40 2012. We really should have crushed the Kim regime in the early 50s, and anyone who thinks otherwise after reading this has no heart.We tried and failed. |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Mon Apr 30 15:10:41 2012, in response to Re: Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be ''paradise'', posted by AlM on Mon Apr 30 13:39:00 2012. That idiot must have forgot about the Korean War. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 30 15:45:15 2012, in response to Re: Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be ''paradise'', posted by AlM on Mon Apr 30 13:39:00 2012. Crush North Korea would have been (and is) a little difficult considering Big Brother China. Any certainly China doesn't give a rat's ass about the people in NK, just so long as they have their buffer zone. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Apr 30 15:49:35 2012, in response to Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be "paradise", posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 13:28:40 2012. At this point China will not allow North Korea to falter because it doesn't want to be surrounded by US allies on all sides. North Korea is the only buffer they have, and they think they can keep a leash on them. If we rengage with North Korea the shear amount of collateral damage would be insane. The US wasn't interested in protecting the South Korean people they just cared about stopping communism, as long as communism stopped the US achieved its goal. Now we have a monkey on our back and for the moment we can't do anything about it. |
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Posted by grand concourse on Mon Apr 30 23:34:07 2012, in response to Re: Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be ''paradise'', posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 30 15:45:15 2012. +1 |
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Posted by grand concourse on Mon Apr 30 23:36:33 2012, in response to Re: Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be ''paradise'', posted by ClearAspect on Mon Apr 30 15:49:35 2012. Wasn't there some growing anti-US sentiment in South Korea lately? If not for the sinking of the SK ship and the NK missile launches, SK probably wouldn't want the US around. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 1 00:09:06 2012, in response to Re: Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be ''paradise'', posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 30 15:45:15 2012. Crush North Korea would have been (and is) a little difficult considering Big Brother ChinaNo guts, no glory. The weaker you look, the harder they laugh. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 1 00:11:00 2012, in response to Re: Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be ''paradise'', posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 1 00:09:06 2012. LOL! |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 00:16:40 2012, in response to Re: Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be ''paradise'', posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 1 00:11:00 2012. LOL!! +1your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 1 00:16:57 2012, in response to Re: Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be ''paradise'', posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 1 00:11:00 2012. Wrong photo for your caption (see below for right photo). And since when do you get to be CIC from there—and have you served? (I'm too old and 4F, sorry.) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 1 00:20:17 2012, in response to Re: Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be ''paradise'', posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 1 00:16:57 2012. Of course. Like all cowards you feel comfortable declaring the "need" for any sort of war because you know you'll never have to fight it. In ancient Sparta you'd rightly be killed. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 00:34:36 2012, in response to Re: Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be ''paradise'', posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 1 00:16:57 2012. (I'm too old and 4F, sorry.)your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 1 00:52:17 2012, in response to Re: Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be ''paradise'', posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 1 00:16:57 2012. Geez ... times have changed, bro. Hasn't the German-republican Bund explained to you how things get done today? You don't need to join the Army anymore, you just put on a different uniform ... and there's no age or health limits anymore ...Need help wiring it up? |
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Posted by WillD on Tue May 1 03:51:32 2012, in response to Re: Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be ''paradise'', posted by ClearAspect on Mon Apr 30 15:49:35 2012. I would suspect a war with the North would actually remain relatively well contained. What regional allies they have in Russia and China cannot afford to actively support them as they might have 30 years ago. Those allies that would stand by them are geographically removed from them and unable to project power. They can cause trouble in their own respect and make things very difficult for us, but they would be unlikely to play a significant role in the outcome of a conflict on the Korean peninsula.That's not to say there wouldn't be collateral damage. Seoul is nearly within range of NK heavy artillery on the DMZ and would be shelled from the first day of the war. But even with a million man army I have a hard time believing North Korea's army of the 1970s, still built around the Soviet doctrines that let the Iraqis down so famously in 1991, would stand much of a chance against our army which is still fully capable of performing the 'strikebreaker' mission against Soviet armored divisions pouring through the Fulda Gap into West Germany. It'd be messy, but it's highly unlikely the North Koreans would come out on the winning side, and they have to know that. Much more important than the war itself is the aftermath. More than likely the Chinese and South Koreans in particular would rather not have an enormous humanitarian crisis and power vacuum on their hands once the Kims are gone and we're left picking up the pieces. The US is in no position to provide the requisite care for the millions of starving and oppressed yet nearly brainwashed inhabitants of North Korea. If Japan has any sense of dignity they'll help out, since this really is their fault in the end, but they'll probably handle things at arms length. So really it's gonna come down to South Korea and maybe China caring for whatever refugees are left in North Korea when their government's house of cards comes crashing down, whether by warfare or other means. With both nations' economies riding high they have to be looking at the abrupt end of the West German miracle in 1991, and more recently the mess Saddam made of the Iraqi economy (and there they had oil income!), and fearing what economic horrors are being perpetrated right alongside the humanitarian crisis. Ultimately we have the means to remove North Korea's leaders from power. But far more important than establishing air supremacy, winning the ground war, and even occupying the country would be establishing the long term stability of the country. We would inevitably be drawn into nation-building in a country where the populace has been conditioned to regard themselves as morally superior to all outsiders. All that having been said, the most likely and, unfortunately, probably the happiest outcome for the people stuck in North Korea is for the Chinese to bump off Kim Jong-Un before he can have a kid and install their own puppet leader. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue May 1 07:39:34 2012, in response to Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be "paradise", posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 13:28:40 2012. As been pointed out to you, we tried and failed, thanks to China. And because of the Chinese, we can't try again.Mind you, South Korea was a dictatorship up until 1988. Not particularly worlds better. Toppling the Kim regime isn't worth the lives, the chaos, or the money it would cost. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 08:41:08 2012, in response to Re: Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be ''paradise'', posted by JayMan on Tue May 1 07:39:34 2012. Toppling the Kim regime isn't worth the lives, the chaos, or the money it would cost.It is to Olog as long as others are doing the fighting and dying. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 08:42:30 2012, in response to Re: Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be ''paradise'', posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 1 00:09:06 2012. No guts, no glory. The weaker you look, the harder they laugh. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 08:42:45 2012, in response to Re: Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be ''paradise'', posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 1 00:11:00 2012. heh! |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue May 1 17:47:44 2012, in response to Re: Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be ''paradise'', posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 08:41:08 2012. You make a good point. As citizens of the world(per BHO), we should tell the world to go f--- itself, I'm too fat and lazy in my SUV to care about humanity. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue May 1 17:49:24 2012, in response to Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be "paradise", posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 13:28:40 2012. This guy should be on a free speaking tour to warn our brainwashed youth about what those camps that Nobama and his buddies wanted to set up here would be like. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon May 7 21:17:27 2012, in response to Re: Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be ''paradise'', posted by orange blossom special on Tue May 1 17:49:24 2012. Proff, please. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 21:20:04 2012, in response to Re: Sole North Korean prison camp escapee found outside world to be ''paradise'', posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon May 7 21:17:27 2012. Do you realize that you clicked on an OBS post? |
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