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SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 30 20:41:22 2012

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2137636/SEALs-slam-Obama-using-ammunition-bid-credit-bin-Laden-killing-election-campaign.html


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Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by JayMan on Mon Apr 30 20:45:00 2012, in response to SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 30 20:41:22 2012.

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Of course he's going to use it in an election campaign, as he should. I'm going to dismiss this as obvious rubbish.

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Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 30 20:53:02 2012, in response to SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 30 20:41:22 2012.

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This pussyboy in the pic above kept bin Laden alive so he could use him for the 2004 Presidential campaign.

I'll take Obama and a dead bin Laden, thanks, and if he wants to crow about it, it's fine by me.

Point 2. Your article only quotes some unamed active SEAL and some politically connected former SEALS. I doubt anyone in active military is criticizing the C in C.

your pal,
Fred

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Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 20:56:00 2012, in response to SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 30 20:41:22 2012.

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CBS Nooz

April 30, 2012 9:31 AM

Arianna Huffington: President's bin Laden ad "despicable"

(CBS News) Arianna Huffington, founder and editor-in-chief of the The Huffington Post, called the Obama campaign's decision to tout the assassination of Osama bin Laden in a campaign advertisement "despicable." The ad questions whether presidential candidate Mitt Romney would have ordered the raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

"I don't think there should be an ad about that," Huffington said Monday on "CBS This Morning." "I think it's one thing to celebrate the fact that they did such a great job (with television specials). All that is perfectly legitimate. But to turn it into a campaign ad is one of the most despicable things you can do."

She added, "It's the same thing Hillary Clinton did with the 3 a.m. call. 'You're not ready to be commander-in-chief.' It's also what makes politicians and political leaders act irrationally when it comes to matters of war because they're so afraid to be called wimps, that they make decisions, which are incredible destructive for the country. I'm sure the president would not have escalated in Afghanistan if he was not as concerned, as Democrats are, that Republicans are going to use not escalating against him in a campaign."

"So in a campaign, aren't you supposed to tout your accomplishments of what you've done," Gayle King asked.

Huffington replied, "That's not just what the ad does. What the ad does is questions. ... (The ad) quotes a snippet from Romney and uses that to imply that Romney would not has been as decisive. There's no way to know whether Romney would have been as decisive. To actually speculate that he wouldn't be is, to me, not the way to run a campaign, on either side."


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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 30 21:00:26 2012, in response to Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 20:56:00 2012.

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To actually speculate that he wouldn't be is, to me, not the way to run a campaign, on either side."

Earth to Arianna...it's been accepted campaign practice to call the other guy unqualified for the job since you and I were kids.

your pal,
Fredf

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Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 30 21:04:28 2012, in response to SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 30 20:41:22 2012.

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I don't know how anyone can be mad about that? If things had gone wrong with the operation, Obama's opponent would use it against him.

Besides, it's an important moment in US history. Obama gets credit for OBL. THIW.

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Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 21:06:53 2012, in response to Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 30 21:04:28 2012.

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Obama gets credit for OBL

Not even the chief executive can betray the trust of the troops.

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Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 30 21:18:00 2012, in response to Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 21:06:53 2012.

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LOL!!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 30 21:22:34 2012, in response to Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 21:06:53 2012.

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So are you drawing up treason charges against Dubya then?

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 30 21:41:43 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 30 21:00:26 2012.

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Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 30 21:43:13 2012, in response to Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 30 21:22:34 2012.

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Don't forget Scooter Libby, for obstructing the investigation on who outed the CIA operative. Oh, wait, CIA aren't "troops". Never mind.

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Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 30 21:47:52 2012, in response to Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 30 21:43:13 2012.

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We;ll have none of that talk now, son ... what was your apartment number again? :)

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Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 30 21:57:42 2012, in response to Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 21:06:53 2012.

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"Not even the chief executive can betray the trust of the troops."





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Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 30 21:59:47 2012, in response to Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 30 20:53:02 2012.

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Osama was caught by our superior Navy Seals, the CIA that gathered information (by Methods like finding the courier done under the Bush Administration like waterboarding), and yes, Obama gave the okay to act order when he was found.
For Obama to try and take the credit away from the Seals, or to imply that "if Romney was President, he wouldn't have done the same thing", is typical....and completely erodes the Presidents whole message.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 30 22:01:59 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 30 21:00:26 2012.

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She's right. Where does he get off implying that Romney wouldn't have done the same thing?

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Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by Italianstallion on Mon Apr 30 22:05:43 2012, in response to Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 30 21:59:47 2012.

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And where exactly does Obama take credit away from the SEALS?

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 30 22:06:19 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 30 21:41:43 2012.

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lOL. If the best Obama has in this campaign is to throw speculation as to whether Romney would have done the same thing, doesn't say much for this president, nor his ability to run on his accomplishments. He tarnished his whole message, which could have been a positive message into a cloud of fog.

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Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 30 22:11:07 2012, in response to Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Italianstallion on Mon Apr 30 22:05:43 2012.

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He doesn't. He's the Commander in Chief and active SEALS know this.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Apr 30 22:12:47 2012, in response to Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 30 21:57:42 2012.

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Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by Italianstallion on Mon Apr 30 22:13:45 2012, in response to Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 30 22:11:07 2012.

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Yup.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 30 22:20:00 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 30 22:01:59 2012.

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Oh please...like that's a new campaign tactic, to say the other guy is unqualified for the job.

Besides, Romney himself said it was "not worth moving heaven and earth spending billions of dollars just trying to catch," bin Laden.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 30 22:22:39 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 30 22:06:19 2012.

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LOL, I doubt Romney would have done anything different than Bush did. In fact, I'd venture a guess that a Romney Presidency would be a Bush rerun.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 22:27:08 2012, in response to Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 30 21:57:42 2012.

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Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by Rockparkman on Mon Apr 30 22:50:20 2012, in response to Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 30 21:59:47 2012.

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And the highest military officer of all, The Commander-in-Chief.
PULL YOUR WEIGHT AND PAY YOUR TAXES, NAZI SCUM.

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Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 30 22:51:22 2012, in response to Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Italianstallion on Mon Apr 30 22:05:43 2012.

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Maybe the networks refused to carry his halting of the return of an aircraft carrier and delaying the arrival of troops home for a big "mission accomplished" banner and media sideshow like his predecessor when there was no win at all except for the campaign. Maybe we missed that. :)

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Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 30 22:58:56 2012, in response to Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 30 21:59:47 2012.

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Bullshit, the raid could have gone sour and you wouldn't be stating such a distinct line between the US President and the SEALS.

Besides, Obama could have chickened out like Bush did in 2005.

He called off a raid on al Qaeda at the 11th hour. THE SEALS WERE ALREADY IN THE PLANES.

your pal,
Fred


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Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 1 00:49:03 2012, in response to Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Apr 30 22:12:47 2012.

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Wake up you dumb mother fucker

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Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue May 1 02:37:05 2012, in response to Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 1 00:49:03 2012.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 07:40:52 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 30 22:22:39 2012.

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LOL, oh really. And Bush would have ordered the kill just like Obama did, and just like Romney would have. Any sitting president would have done that once our CIA found him, and our Navy Seals would have killed him.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 07:43:08 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 30 22:20:00 2012.

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He ruined his moment by forgetting to mention the men who REALLY caught him, and by fogging the whole great event by trying to throw unfactual speculation, without basis on Romney. It was Obama's moment, and had nothing to do with romney either way.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 08:07:30 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 07:43:08 2012.

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Obama didn't ruin anything and Romney flip flopped again. Like most Republicans, Romney's a coward.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by TERRapin station on Tue May 1 08:22:39 2012, in response to Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 30 20:53:02 2012.

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Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 08:26:15 2012, in response to SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 30 20:41:22 2012.

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Barack is only second to JFK in the eyes of our Special Operations Forces when it comes to Presidential greatness.

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Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 1 08:30:48 2012, in response to Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 30 20:53:02 2012.

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nice photo
good shooting

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Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 1 08:33:22 2012, in response to Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 08:26:15 2012.

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Barack is only second to JFK in the eyes of our Special Operations Forces when it comes to Presidential greatness.

k... I guess


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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 08:34:23 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 30 22:01:59 2012.

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Where does he get off implying that Romney wouldn't have done the same thing?


from Etch-a-Sketch himself:

Obama referenced his somewhat famous quip at a debate in 2007 that if, given the opportunity and with "actionable intelligence," he would commit US troops to go inside Pakistan and kill bin Laden, a comment that provoked all sorts of wrath from both Democrats and Republicans running for president at the time, including Romney, who said then that "It’s not worth moving heaven and earth spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person." In a debate he said was more specific in criticizing Obama for the reference to Pakistan:

"It’s wrong for a person running for president of the United States to get on TV and say we’re going to go into your country unilaterally.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 08:37:25 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 07:40:52 2012.

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FALSE!

Bush was adamant about not violating Pakistan's territorial sovereignty.

It was Barack Obama who took the war straight to the terrorists wherever they are and and any time of our choosing without asking anyone for permission while the Incompentent Moronic ManBoy was still doling out Iraq contracts to his buddies

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 08:44:21 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 08:37:25 2012.

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Obama was mocked for suggesting taking the fight to Pakistan.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 09:00:16 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 08:44:21 2012.

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Obama was mocked for suggesting taking the fight to Pakistan.


Indeed he was.

By almost everyone.
OTOH, it was one of the major reasons I voted for him.

He kept his word and now al-Qaida is just a shell of its former self.

Barack Obama, best President in the last 60 years.

Here is a thread started by OBS of all people on this topic back when he was still sane.

here is another one on the same topic by the same person after his psychosis had already settled in.

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Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 1 09:24:45 2012, in response to Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 30 21:59:47 2012.

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For Obama to...imply that "if Romney was President, he wouldn't have done the same thing"

Romney attacks Obama over Pakistan warning

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney criticized Democrat Barack Obama on Friday for vowing to strike al Qaeda targets inside Pakistan if necessary as the Obama camp issued a strident defense of his plan.

Obama on Wednesday said if elected president in November 2008 he would be willing to launch military strikes against al Qaeda targets inside Pakistan with or without the approval of the Pakistani government of President Pervez Musharraf

Romney, the former Massachusetts governor who is one of the Republican front-runners, said U.S. troops "shouldn't be sent all over the world." He called Obama's comments "ill-timed" and "ill-considered."


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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by AlM on Tue May 1 09:25:16 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 08:34:23 2012.

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"It’s wrong for a person running for president of the United States to get on TV and say we’re going to go into your country unilaterally.

I would actually agree that it's wrong to say it. That just inflames people. You just do it without ever saying in advance that you might.




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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 09:41:17 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by AlM on Tue May 1 09:25:16 2012.

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Somebody running for President needs to inform the American people in advance that he is willing to attack a nuclear power in its own territory.

Doing otherwise would be irresponsible.

We're not talking Somalia here.

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Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by JayMan on Tue May 1 09:59:52 2012, in response to Re: former SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 30 21:59:47 2012.

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Only in the minds already made up against him. Nothing he does can vindicate him in that respect anyway.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 10:40:39 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 08:07:30 2012.

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False. To speculate that he wouldn't have done it is as absurd as speculating that he would have. The man needs to run on what HE can do and has done, not speculate what someone else "may or may not" have done in the past.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 10:41:36 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 08:37:25 2012.

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It was a few years later, and our CIA found him eactly where he was. They hadn't found him prior.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 1 10:46:37 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 10:40:39 2012.

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The man needs to run on what HE can do and has done, not speculate what someone else "may or may not" have done in the past.

Romney ran on not going after bin Laden in Pakistan in 2008.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 10:51:53 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 10:40:39 2012.

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Quoting Romney's past statements is more than just speculation. Romney ran his last campaign saying he wouldn't attack Pakistan and even called out Obama for saying so. It's a pretty safe bet that Romney wouldn't have sent the SEALS to Pakistan.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 10:54:52 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 10:41:36 2012.

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They weren't looking for him until 2009. Bush negligently called off the hunt.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 11:02:37 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 10:54:52 2012.

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Obama only continued the search that was already started.
the Navy Seals and the CIA told Obama what they should do and the plan to get Osama and Obama just gave them green light to do it. All he said was "okay" but our military took initiative.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 11:15:20 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 11:02:37 2012.

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What search that was already started? Bush discontinued the search for bin Laden.

Romney said he wouldn't go into Pakistan to attack al Qaeda. He also said it wasn't worth going after bin Laden.

Credit goes to Obama for resurrecting the search for bin Laden despite GOP mockery and also making the decision to attack and kill him.

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