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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 18:18:46 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Apr 29 03:14:13 2012.

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Wake up you ignant fool

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 29 18:43:26 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 18:13:07 2012.

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But...if your insurer doesn't honor your claim, you might be in a serious state of death by the time the litigation works its way through the court system.

Which "Canadian government officials", specifically, have come to the US for medical care they "can't get" at home?



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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by JohnL on Sun Apr 29 19:18:23 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 18:13:07 2012.

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And many more people have died because they can’t get healthcare in the United States. It has been my experience, at least in the United Kingdom, that urgent treatment gets immediate care. Less urgent treatment may have to wait.

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Apr 29 19:22:37 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 18:13:38 2012.

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ladies 1st

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Apr 29 19:23:05 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 18:18:46 2012.

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ladies 1st

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Apr 29 19:23:29 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 29 18:15:51 2012.

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yep !

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 29 19:38:16 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by JohnL on Sun Apr 29 19:18:23 2012.

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Isn't all that different here. Takes a month typically to see a specialist for any non-emergency treatment, just like the UK or Canada.

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 20:04:59 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 29 18:43:26 2012.

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That's true but with obama's death panels calling the shots, there is no recourse.

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 20:07:07 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 29 19:38:16 2012.

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From recent personal experience :

I CALL


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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 20:09:47 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by JohnL on Sun Apr 29 19:18:23 2012.

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proff? No one is denied health care in this country. Hospitals cannot turn them away. However, this was not about healthcare. It was about turning 1/6th of the US economy over to the demoncrats. If it were about healthcare they could have put those without healthcare on medicare and not trash the entire medical system and turn the US into a socialist state.

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 29 21:16:32 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 20:04:59 2012.

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WHAT "death panels"? If HCR was actually implemented the way it was supposed to be, the only thing that would have changed is who pays the bills, in this case Uncle Sam. The healthcare system we have today would still operate as it always did, and--imagine THIS--a few hospitals might actually re-open. I shudder every time I pass by the moribund hulk of Mary Immaculate or St. Vincent's Hospitals. There was truly no legitimate reason for these institutions to have closed.

Oh, and socialized medicine has been alive and well in the United States since the end of WWII. It's called the VA. Somehow, they've managed to operate just fine over the years, without convening "death panels" or turning patients away...

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 29 21:27:12 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 20:09:47 2012.

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I beg to differ. All American hospitals are legally required to do for you is provide immediate, lifesaving emergency care, appropriate "stabilizing treatment" for non-life-threatening issues (this can be, and often is, as simple as scheduling a clinic appointment for the patient), or emergency care for an unborn child.

In a very stark example of how your "social status" can kill you, A homeless woman in St. Louis was dragged from a hospital E/R, where she had insisted she was sick, to a city jail, where she promptly died when a blood clot found its way from her leg to her lungs. A doctor had declared the woman "fit for confinement" when, in excruciating pain (from, it turned out, the blood clot), she refused to leave the hospital and was arrested for trespassing.

Hospitals turn people way in America every single day. My dear departed friend Renee, another uninsured black woman like the St. Louis patient, died of the exact same thing--after being sent home from the E/R twice on the day she died.

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 29 21:28:04 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 20:07:07 2012.

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It can take that long, eye doctors are not included.

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 29 21:33:56 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 29 21:27:12 2012.

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You might also waste some time trying to explain to these rightie know-it-alls what "GOMER" means ... :(

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 29 21:37:15 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 29 21:33:56 2012.

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Republicans will never get old or sick, didn't you know that? Aging, illness, and injury are afflictions that only befall us lefties. :)

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 29 21:38:11 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 20:09:47 2012.

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Turn it over to the government? How soon?

The private sector has FAILED here.

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 29 21:55:24 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 29 21:37:15 2012.

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Heh. Of course! They have that "Cadillac" health plan. If they get sick, they'll be found in the trunk of a Cadillac out in Howard Beach. :)

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 29 21:57:09 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 29 21:38:11 2012.

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I can understand his concern about government competence. After all, government hired him. But what he doesn't realize is that in government, the incompetent do get shipped off to Siberia where their inability to keep up with the required skills lets them work with the stuff that's about to get shitcanned rather than front line new stuff. :)

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 29 21:57:50 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 29 21:55:24 2012.

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The old Fleetwoods had a two-body trunk...so you could put more GOP Congresscritters ito fewer trunks!

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 29 21:58:59 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 29 21:57:50 2012.

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Indeed those land yachts did! :)

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 29 22:03:12 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 29 21:58:59 2012.

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...the '77 Lincoln Town Car was a close second to the Fleetwood in dead-body capacity. In Howard Beach, at a Mob funeral, you only needed ONE pallbearer...to slam the trunk.

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 29 22:09:28 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 29 22:03:12 2012.

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Heh. And of course some of the finest meatwagons were built on that chassis too. :)

Every time I hear "Cadillac health plan" I giggle.

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 30 00:22:16 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 29 21:38:11 2012.

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Hey, the government fired the fucking asshole that you are married to. Then again, maybe they are not as incompetent after all.

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 30 00:30:58 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 29 21:27:12 2012.

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You can beg all you want. It must be obvious by this point that you are not going to convince me and I am not going to convince you. Let us just agree to disagree. Just be aware that had your "liberal circle-jerk" partner for tonight not been fired from his cushy civil service job and had he retired with his 20/50 pension and his lifetime medical benefits then the other half of that circle would be empty. If he had it - he wouldn't give a flying fuck if no one else had it. That's just the way it works.

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 30 00:58:36 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 30 00:22:16 2012.

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In BOTH cases, I quit. And in BOTH cases, they asked me to come back and I refused. Can you *EVER* tell the truth, asswipe?

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 30 01:07:05 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 30 00:30:58 2012.

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OK ... let's settle your shit once and for all. Since you keep a folder on me anyway, stuff this in it too.

I was brought up on charges for a "collision" back at the TA. I was *exhonorated* after the investigation when it was determined that the train I "crashed" had been SABOTAGED. I was offered my position back six weeks after the fact. My "firing" as you wish to put it was formally declared a "resignation" because I wasn't interested in coming back to endure more shit by racist motherfuckers like yourself.

When I worked for the state, I put in my years, vested, and because of my prior TIER ONE status, was allowed to "buy in" to my then tier three status and vested in the retirement system as a "paid up" TIER ONE. I resigned from the Department of Public Service (PSC) with my status of "full retirement" which I was able to begin collecting at age 55 in FULL.

I decided to wait however for age 62 in order to reap the maximum, and that's my plan.

So put that in your "enemies list" folder and shove it.

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Apr 30 02:28:01 2012, in response to Social Economics 101, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 19:49:15 2012.

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Good to see that you get your facts from cartoons.

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 30 08:31:28 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Apr 28 20:05:43 2012.

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WADL.

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 30 09:31:47 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by SMAZ on Mon Apr 30 02:28:01 2012.

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How are you this morning, Travis?

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Re: Social Economics 101

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Apr 30 13:45:27 2012, in response to Re: Social Economics 101, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 30 09:31:47 2012.

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How are you this morning, Travis?


I'm doing great.

Thank you for the kind thought, Iris.

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