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Re: Enterprise Now Over NYC (was: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise)

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 27 11:33:43 2012, in response to Re: Enterprise Now Over NYC (was: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise), posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Apr 27 11:29:51 2012.

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Saw the touchdown just a few moments ago. For those who missed it, I hope tomorrow's flight from DC to JFK will be as beautiful - right kev?

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PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 12:03:45 2012, in response to Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 12 11:09:36 2011.

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Enjoy!

Space Shuttle Enterprise

Click “photo size:” on the upper left hand side of the page and choose “large” to see them better.

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Re: PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Apr 27 12:50:47 2012, in response to PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 12:03:45 2012.

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Good pics, thank you!

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Re: PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 27 12:58:46 2012, in response to PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 12:03:45 2012.

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Coolness!

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Re: PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 13:06:31 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Apr 27 12:50:47 2012.

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Good pics, thank you!

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Re: PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 13:07:08 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 27 12:58:46 2012.

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Coolness!

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Thanks Fred!



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Re: Enterprise to fly over NYC (Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise)

Posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 13:28:46 2012, in response to Enterprise to fly over NYC (Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise), posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 00:41:09 2012.

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I did go today. Cool to see the 'glider' from Battery Park.

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Re: Enterprise to fly over NYC (Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise)

Posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 13:30:26 2012, in response to Re: Enterprise to fly over NYC (Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 09:36:28 2012.

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I saw your 1st post :rolleyes:
ftr, I did go and heard the news from the radio at 9am.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 13:32:50 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 27 10:23:46 2012.

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Would've been nice if NYC got Discovery instead of a glider that never went to space...

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Re: Enterprise to fly over NYC (Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 13:55:27 2012, in response to Re: Enterprise to fly over NYC (Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise), posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 13:30:26 2012.

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I saw your 1st post :rolleyes:

Huh?

ftr, I did go and heard the news from the radio at 9am.

Good. I don't know why you were thanking Selkook in the first place. I mean NASA itself made the official announcement YESTERDAY that they were going ahead with the flight today.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 13:56:04 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 13:32:50 2012.

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I'm quite happy with the Enterprise.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 14:07:15 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 13:56:04 2012.

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I think NYC could've gotten better with one that actually went into space, but w/e it's here to stay.

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Re: Enterprise to fly over NYC (Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise)

Posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 14:13:10 2012, in response to Re: Enterprise to fly over NYC (Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 13:55:27 2012.

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1st of 3

From the reports of the wind gusts, it made things look doubtful about today. But I was still going to wait till 8-9am for any news and then around 9am they said it was going to fly and be around the city by 10:30am.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 27 14:13:16 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 14:07:15 2012.

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At least you didn't get fragments from the Challenger.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Enterprise to fly over NYC (Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise)

Posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 14:13:32 2012, in response to Re: Enterprise to fly over NYC (Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 13:55:27 2012.

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1st of 3

From the reports of the wind gusts, it made things look doubtful about today. But I was still going to wait till 8-9am for any news and then around 9am they said it was going to fly and be around the city by 10:30am.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 27 14:16:38 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 13:32:50 2012.

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NYC had nothing to do with the Space program. Why should it get a real shuttle when Virginia is relatively close by?

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 14:21:04 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 14:07:15 2012.

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I don't think NYC necessarily deserved a space traveling shuttle any more than LA so I'm not going to complain like you are. And of course we didn't deserve it any more than Dulles and Florida.

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Re: PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least

Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Apr 27 14:26:08 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 27 12:58:46 2012.

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Awesomeness!

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Re: Enterprise to fly over NYC (Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 14:29:15 2012, in response to Re: Enterprise to fly over NYC (Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise), posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 14:13:32 2012.

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And what are you trying to say about that?

From the reports of the wind gusts, it made things look doubtful about today. But I was still going to wait till 8-9am for any news and then around 9am they said it was going to fly and be around the city by 10:30am.

Whatever floats your boat, man. The wind issue was well known yesterday and NASA was not sending out signals saying that the flight was in any jeopardy of being delayed...

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 14:32:09 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 27 14:13:16 2012.

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that's just wrong. But :sigh: it is what it is.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 14:34:27 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 14:21:04 2012.

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I'm not going to argue about that, but why does DC deserve to keep one and send it's 2nd hand model to us? That's what I don't get. DC could've kept Enterprise and NASA send Discovery direct to NYC.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 15:16:51 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 14:34:27 2012.

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why does DC deserve to keep one and send it's 2nd hand model to us? That's what I don't get.

Because "The Smithsonian Institution's National Air and Space Museum maintains the largest collection of historic air and spacecraft in the world. It is also a vital center for research into the history, science, and technology of aviation and space flight, as well as planetary science and terrestrial geology and geophysics." In other words, the National Air and Space Museum deserves a SPACE-going shuttle more than NYC does.

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Re: PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 15:18:49 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Apr 27 14:26:08 2012.

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Awesomeness!

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 27 16:47:17 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 14:21:04 2012.

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LA is where JPL is. And in any event their shuttle is thousands of miles from the closest one. We have a real live one in Virginia.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 27 16:48:58 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 14:34:27 2012.

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DC is the imperial capital and therefore the rightful home for the storehouses containing the treasures of our national conquests.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 27 16:51:30 2012, in response to Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 12 11:09:36 2011.

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it is identical to all of the later Orbiters that flew into space

Not true, it has no engines or an active heat shield.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Easy on Fri Apr 27 16:58:36 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 27 16:47:17 2012.

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Also wasn't most of it designed by Lockheed at their skunkworks facility in Palmdale? And primarily built in LA? And it sometimes landed at Edwards AFB and IINM Edwards was also the site of the spectacular crash of the early space shuttle test vehicle shown at the start of the 6 Million Dollar Man. California and LA in particular has been a huge part of the US space program.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 27 17:01:42 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Easy on Fri Apr 27 16:58:36 2012.

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Yes, all that too.

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Re: PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 27 17:45:43 2012, in response to PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 12:03:45 2012.

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Very nice!

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 27 17:49:17 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 13:32:50 2012.

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The Smithsonian deserves the REAL Discovery more than NY does. NY is quite lucky to get the Enterprise.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 27 17:51:12 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 14:34:27 2012.

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It's not a "2nd Hand Model". The Smithsonian is the national museum, and should have the Discovery. They could have sent the Enterprise anywhere after the Smithsonian got the Discovery. NYC is EXTREMELY lucky to get the the Enterprise even. Cities around the country with no more or less to do with the space program would have loved to have it.

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Re: Update: Re: Enterprise to fly over NYC (Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 27 17:54:10 2012, in response to Re: Update: Re: Enterprise to fly over NYC (Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise), posted by cortelyounext on Fri Apr 27 09:43:53 2012.

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I went by the original post which suggested that wind would be a flight decision factor:

Depending on the wind, the Enterprise should be flying over the city this morning. News reports say Battery Park area should be ideal for taking pics.

As to the stack, winds aloft were predicted to be in excess of 60MPH after fropa, and so offered what NOAA had to offer in case it mattered. Of course, leave it to our "chorus of idjits" here to make hay while the sun shines.

I *did* say that these are professional fly boys and they'd probably laugh at the winds, but of course that got glossed over. And so it goes.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 27 17:55:35 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 27 16:47:17 2012.

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Didn't a museum in LA get Endevour?

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 27 17:56:43 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Apr 15 14:33:06 2011.

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?????

The Enterprise is the first one built, and the model of which all the other units were designed off of. It has perhaps as much significance as any of the ones that actually flew.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 27 17:58:40 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 27 17:56:43 2012.

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Correct. It was the original face of the space shuttle program.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 27 17:59:58 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Apr 15 14:33:06 2011.

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the stark reality is that this ship never went into space

The stark reality is that such a thing is utterly irrelevant. Were you mad that the Blackbird that was on the Intrepid's deck wasn't an SR-71 too??

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 27 18:00:37 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 27 14:13:16 2012.

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Actually, those would be significant artifacts too. While I would rather have a the Enterprise here, the truth is, displaying Challenger fragments wouldn't be any different than debris from the Titanic or something.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 27 18:02:24 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 15:16:51 2012.

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Exactly. NYC is VERY lucky to even get the Enterprise. Many museums around the country would kill for something like that. And let's not forget the major significance the Enterprise has. It's the FIRST unit built, and the basis on which the whole program was built. The Enterprise is perhaps even more significant than any of the others in that respect.
It's like having the R110's or something at the museum.

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Re: Update: Re: Enterprise to fly over NYC (Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise)

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 27 18:12:43 2012, in response to Re: Update: Re: Enterprise to fly over NYC (Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise), posted by AlM on Fri Apr 27 10:45:38 2012.

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I missed the chapter in the Walter Mitty Story where he was a meteorologist. Perhaps he's just another weather girl.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 27 18:13:49 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 27 17:59:58 2012.

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I was not aware of that. Now I feel cheated? If not the SR-71, then what?

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Re: PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 27 18:15:27 2012, in response to PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 12:03:45 2012.

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I have to admit that those were excellent photos.

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Re: PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least

Posted by TERRapin station on Fri Apr 27 18:16:57 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 27 17:45:43 2012.

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Thanks!

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Re: Update: Re: Enterprise to fly over NYC (Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise)

Posted by TERRapin station on Fri Apr 27 18:21:05 2012, in response to Re: Update: Re: Enterprise to fly over NYC (Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise), posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 27 17:54:10 2012.

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If you were misunderstood, it was only by one person - grand concourse. The rest of us were commenting on his giving your post value.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by TERRapin station on Fri Apr 27 18:24:01 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 27 17:56:43 2012.

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Excellent post. How unbelievably out of touch Mitch is.

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Re: PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least

Posted by Easy on Fri Apr 27 18:24:10 2012, in response to PHOTOS -- Space Shuttle Enterprise over NYC - well over the Hudson at least, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 27 12:03:45 2012.

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Wow! Those are really great!

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by Easy on Fri Apr 27 18:25:52 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by TERRapin station on Fri Apr 27 18:24:01 2012.

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It's cool and all, but I'm not a big fan of the Enterprise either.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 27 18:29:52 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 27 18:13:49 2012.

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The Intrepid's Blackbird is an A-12; in particular, the second built. Maximum speed was Mach 3.35.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 27 18:30:49 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 14:34:27 2012.

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I really don't see why NYC got one of them. In fact, I'd bet if you researched back, you'd find NY's congressional delegation lobbying to cut funding from the space program to bolster federal aid money coming into NY for transit or some such nonsense.

LOL

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Fred

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 27 18:35:51 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by Easy on Fri Apr 27 18:25:52 2012.

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Do you mean the shuttle or the Star Trek thing?

It doesn't matter what the name of the shuttle is, it has plenty of significance because it's the first one, the one the entire program was based on. If not for the Enterprise Shuttle, there would be no others.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 27 18:36:09 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 27 17:56:43 2012.

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And NYC has the loyalest Trek fans. :)

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