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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 27 07:02:50 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 26 23:38:10 2012.

Gallup was being praised in the other thread. Now gallup is no good?



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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by R30A on Fri Apr 27 07:56:34 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 27 00:30:53 2012.

Romney won't win any outside of SC and possibly MO. And Obama has a decent shot at AZ. IN isn't out of the picture either.

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Re: Romney 46% - Obama 31%

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Apr 27 08:12:38 2012, in response to Re: Romney 46% - Obama 31%, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Apr 26 11:35:07 2012.

yeah...its a small city..so THAT says a lot..COMPARED TO 8 1/2 MILLION in NYC alone..

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Re: Romney 46% - Obama 31%

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Apr 27 08:46:33 2012, in response to Re: Romney 46% - Obama 31%, posted by Concourse Express on Thu Apr 26 12:13:55 2012.

So there exists a set of outcomes where Obama beats Romney; that, combined with the remaining 23% of the sample who were presumably undecided, shows there's insufficient evidence at whatever the level of significance was for this poll that Romney beats Obama.

And that's only among self-identified independents. The overall poll result was Romney 46%, Obama 46%.

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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Apr 27 09:22:26 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 26 23:53:41 2012.

Of course it is. It shows a result you do not want.

It gives any state with a less than 50 percent approval rating from 2011 Gallup polls to the presumptive Republican nominee (can't even say Romney, since the race hadn't been decided by then). That's ridiculous.

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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Apr 27 09:29:28 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 27 00:38:11 2012.

Had he not put SC in play, MAYBE some on the right panic.

Obama is ahead of Romney 45%-42% in the latest (December 2011) poll.

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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by AlM on Fri Apr 27 09:38:15 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 27 00:30:53 2012.

Romney will win every singly yellow state plus Ohio.

Maybe so, maybe not. But that's not indicated by the polls you keep posting.




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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 27 09:58:17 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Apr 27 09:22:26 2012.

The bottom line is all the graphs and polls at this point are meaningless. I just like to watch this particular lemming wiggle and squirm through results she doesn't like. Sort of like watching Curley of the 3 stooges running with the ball.



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Re: Romney 46% - Obama 31%

Posted by AlM on Fri Apr 27 10:15:59 2012, in response to Re: Romney 46% - Obama 31%, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Apr 26 11:35:07 2012.

If you make all the assumptions that statisticians tend to make (whether justified or not), one standard deviation in your expected results is apporximately 1 divided by the square root of the sample size.

That's why the error for the overall result is 3% while that for the result on independents is 8%.


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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 27 13:23:04 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by Easy on Thu Apr 26 23:49:55 2012.

I think that NC is in fact more progressive than SC. Or at least it used to be. Plus it probably has more educated yankees that moved down from the NE and midwest.

Yup. The Carolinas have siphoned off some of the flow of retirees from the north to Florida. Also, you have the universities and tech workers in the triangle.


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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by Easy on Fri Apr 27 13:32:15 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 27 13:23:04 2012.

I said NC not both.

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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 27 13:41:16 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by Easy on Fri Apr 27 13:32:15 2012.

I know. I was mentioning that SC has also attracted some retirees from northern states.

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Re: Romney 46% - Obama 31%

Posted by bingbong on Fri Apr 27 13:41:44 2012, in response to Re: Romney 46% - Obama 31%, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 26 20:02:17 2012.

You do drag now that you're retired?

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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 27 13:52:52 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 27 13:41:16 2012.

Where in SC besides Hilton Head? I kinda doubt they're neighbors with the Kid from Deliverance.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 27 13:56:09 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 27 13:52:52 2012.

All the ocean front towns. There are billboards all over I-95 targeting them.

Most of the billboards I see are for SC and Jacksonville.

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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 27 14:11:40 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 27 13:56:09 2012.

Ok, cool.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Romney 46% - Obama 31%

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 27 17:52:04 2012, in response to Re: Romney 46% - Obama 31%, posted by bingbong on Fri Apr 27 13:41:44 2012.

Very weak - even for you? I admit she looks a bit too thin to be you but it's close enough

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Re: Romney 46% - Obama 31%

Posted by bingbong on Fri Apr 27 18:17:41 2012, in response to Re: Romney 46% - Obama 31%, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 27 17:52:04 2012.

It's not a she......but it sure looks like you!

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Re: Romney 46% - Obama 31%

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 27 18:22:01 2012, in response to Re: Romney 46% - Obama 31%, posted by bingbong on Fri Apr 27 18:17:41 2012.

"It's not a she."

Some say the same about you!

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Re: Romney 46% - Obama 31%

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 27 18:24:01 2012, in response to Re: Romney 46% - Obama 31%, posted by bingbong on Fri Apr 27 13:41:44 2012.

Wow ... just wow. First it's motorcycle, then leathers, then gladiator movies and now this. Boy's got some serious issues. :)

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Re: Romney 46% - Obama 31%

Posted by bingbong on Fri Apr 27 18:44:03 2012, in response to Re: Romney 46% - Obama 31%, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 27 18:22:01 2012.

You mean you. Nobody else here seems to think I'm not a woman.

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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 27 19:33:32 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by R30A on Fri Apr 27 07:56:34 2012.

Just out of curiosity, why don't you think Romney can win Florida?

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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by Easy on Fri Apr 27 19:42:30 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 27 19:33:32 2012.

Because you've been telling us this for 2 years? ;)

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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by cortelyounext on Fri Apr 27 19:46:59 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 27 19:33:32 2012.

For some reason Easy, along with Railman718 who is on his RDO, is attacking you this evening. Shotspotter Flex is tremendous.

... ShotSpotter, a high-tech gunshot detection system that Suffolk recently installed, reported 517 alerts from December to March. It picked up 186 shots in Wyandanch; 112 in Huntington Station; 112 in Brentwood; and 91 in North Bellport.

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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 27 19:54:15 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by cortelyounext on Fri Apr 27 19:46:59 2012.

Oh noes! Brentwood calling for backup ... what is this world coming to?

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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 27 20:06:26 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by cortelyounext on Fri Apr 27 19:46:59 2012.

For some reason Easy, along with Railman718 who is on his RDO, is attacking you this evening. Shotspotter Flex is tremendous.

They have been all worked up for weeks now.

I hope Brentwood has a quiet summer.

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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by JayMan on Mon Apr 30 08:19:08 2012, in response to Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by Easy on Thu Apr 26 21:59:40 2012.

Apparently, AK, WY, and ID are so far with the red that Rove didn't even bother putting the percentage.

Far be for me to disagree with Ham Rove;

looks like even the best case scenario for him, Romney loses by a large degree, just like I predicted as soon as Obama was elected the first time.


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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by AlM on Mon Apr 30 09:01:00 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by JayMan on Mon Apr 30 08:19:08 2012.

I would tend to agree that Rove is putting out an alarmist map to try to raise more money. There is no way anyone can be sure who will win at this point.

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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 30 10:15:58 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by JayMan on Mon Apr 30 08:19:08 2012.

Also OK. DE and DC for the other side.

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Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93

Posted by bingbong on Mon Apr 30 11:31:31 2012, in response to Re: Karl Rove electoral map Obama 220 Romney 93, posted by AlM on Mon Apr 30 09:01:00 2012.

Agreed....Anyone that doesn't think TX isn't as red as they get (after all, this is a state that keeps re-electing Rick Perry) woke up on the wrong side of reality.



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