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GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Feb 25 12:43:15 2012

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With Super Tuesday almost upon us, the leao-frog GOP race among the Presidential candidates is transforming the Republican Party into a smoking ruin. Gingrich, Santorum, Romney, and paul have successfully alienated even voters in their own party with their exclusionary, fear-based rhetoric and hatemongering.

Even moderate Democrats are going "LOLwut?" over the GOP's self-destruction this election season.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 25 12:59:02 2012, in response to GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Feb 25 12:43:15 2012.

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Paul and Gingrich are not factors. Whenever Romney or (less likely) Santorum locks up nomination, the real race begins. Then the anger currently being aimed at each other gets aimed at a far more desirable target, that inept, autocratic doofus in the White House.

In case you think Obama still has a chance to win on his record, here's a reminder how people actually feel on one key issue:

http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/157318/1/Congresswoman-Kathy-Hochul-Booed-Over-Birth-Control-Policy

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Feb 25 13:07:01 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 25 12:59:02 2012.

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so seperation of church and state stops where??
These special interest people want Government to do what their religion dictates, not acceptable according to law.


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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 25 13:11:15 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 25 12:59:02 2012.

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Over 60% of all Americans,and that includes Catholics, feel that the policy compromise the President enacted is the right thing to do. No church can impose its agenda in the secular corporate arena. Even the head of their hospitals council said this is completely acceptable. Only the bishops have an issue with this, and they are out of line on this one.

The Constitution endows certain rights onto individuals. It does not endow these rights to corporations. Complaince with religious dogma belong to individual conscience, not corporate dictum.

A few misinformed individuals at a single townhall does not a national movement make.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 25 13:15:49 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 25 12:59:02 2012.

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That's how the people at that particular town hall feel but not how the nation feels.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 25 13:16:32 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 25 13:15:49 2012.

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That's how the people at that particular town hall feel but not necessarily how the nation feels.

your pal,
Fred


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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Feb 25 13:16:42 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 25 13:11:15 2012.

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+1

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 25 13:17:30 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 25 13:16:32 2012.

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You were right the first time.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 25 13:33:44 2012, in response to GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Feb 25 12:43:15 2012.

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Perhaps Republicans only look dysfunctional because there is no simultaneous Democratic race for comparison. Do you remember Obama and Hillary? Primaries too early, votes not counting, women vowing never to vote Democratic again,...it was a disaster. Yet everything turned out ok.

The problem with the Republican candidates is the candidates. Romney is the only decent one. The party is full of nutty ideologues, but the same is true for Democrats. Probably even more so.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 25 13:37:16 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 25 13:33:44 2012.

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Agreed the other candidates are simply insane and dangerous, Willard's certainly earned his distrust. Screw triangulation, this guy's consulting pyramids.

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How the nation feels: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 25 13:56:11 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 25 13:15:49 2012.

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http://www.gallup.com/poll/152963/Contraception-Debate-Divides-Americans-Including-Women.aspx

How does it feel to support a man who is calmly dividing America on an issue that has little relevance to anyone in America outside Obama and his re-election effort? Bush rightly got skewered when he decided to concentrate on the DOMA when everything else was going wrong.



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Re: How the nation feels: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 25 14:03:38 2012, in response to How the nation feels: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 25 13:56:11 2012.

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It feels good to be on the side of common sense.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: How the nation feels: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 25 14:15:48 2012, in response to How the nation feels: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 25 13:56:11 2012.

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President Obama isn't dividing the nation on this (the wide majority agree with his compromise, including the majority of American Catholicism), Sanitorium, with his intentions to allow banning of contraceptives IS. This is all ABOUT Sanityignorium's battle to bring back the 11th century. His denials of his intentions are as believable as Rmoney's flipflops are to the RW.

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Re: How the nation feels: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 25 14:26:04 2012, in response to How the nation feels: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 25 13:56:11 2012.

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You're also forgetting the near universality of contraceptive use. THAT is where the rubber meets the road, and that's not just figuratively. When Sanitorium proposed his ban..."allowing states to decide" (despite 2 long standing, unquestioned SCOTUS decisions which initially established reproductive rights for Americans) they lost the election. Even if they end up running Rmoney, you know not only Sanitilackium is gonna speak (and bring the whole thing up again fresh for the fall) but they're gonna have RCA language in their platform as well.

Face it, you lost the war against sex, get over it and move on. This is NOT the 11th century.

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Re: How the nation feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc.

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 25 15:55:17 2012, in response to How the nation feels: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 25 13:56:11 2012.

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Obama was already at odds with the Vatican regarding abortion, but now he's done and added contraception to it. Singling them out is a great way to get even the Protestant denominations to rally around the Catholic Church, and that would really be an upsetting thing for the Dems in general, never mind the lib agenda.

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Re: James Zogby @ HuffyPost: LOLwut?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 25 15:58:28 2012, in response to GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Feb 25 12:43:15 2012.

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Just hilarious that you're taking either of them seriously. Zogby the terrorist who would have no problem chopping your head off for what and who you are, too.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 25 16:56:15 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 25 13:33:44 2012.

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Obama and Hillary were competing for who had the best ideas.

The Republicans are competing for who has the dumbest.

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Re: How the nation feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc.

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 25 16:59:59 2012, in response to Re: How the nation feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc., posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 25 15:55:17 2012.

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The contraceptive coverage rules apply to all employers. Many Protestant denominations already provide contraceptive coverage as basic care in complete compliance with the law that has yet to go into effect.

You allegation has no basis in reality. The reality is that women are catching onto the plans of candidates like Sanitarium and planning to vote Democratic. That's the best bet to stop this anti-woman, anti-family madness.

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Re: How the nation feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc.

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 25 17:26:41 2012, in response to Re: How the nation feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc., posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 25 16:59:59 2012.

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You allegation has no basis in reality

You don't realize the real sleeping giant you're taunting. Throwing argumentum ad hominem against me doesn't rewrite reality to suit your tastes.

The reality is that women are catching onto the plans of candidates like Sanitarium and planning to vote Democratic

The reality is that you've got conservative women as well as liberal women. There is no monolithic sex-based bloc that is all liberal.

That's the best bet to stop this anti-woman, anti-family madness

"Anti-family"? Whom do you think you're addressing here, eh . . . ? It's the left that's anti-family; it's all in the Communist Manifesto.

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Re: How Olog-HEIL feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc.

Posted by RockParkMan on Sat Feb 25 17:41:31 2012, in response to Re: How the nation feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc., posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 25 17:26:41 2012.

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Fuck you, sub-canine

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Re: How Olog-HEIL feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 25 17:45:03 2012, in response to Re: How Olog-HEIL feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc., posted by RockParkMan on Sat Feb 25 17:41:31 2012.

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He wishes he could get some communist manifesto ... :)


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Re ality gap

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 25 18:02:56 2012, in response to Re: How the nation feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc., posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 25 17:26:41 2012.

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The sleeping giant is reproductive rights. Nobody wants to see that go away. Deal with it.

Women of all persuasions want to control their reproductive lives. Very very few want 10+children. That is unsustainable economically and physically, as there aren't enough resources on the planet to support such a population. There aren't plagues anymore. We fixed such tragedies pretty much with technology, and contraceptives solve population issues that would result from the lack of disease killing living humans.

One more thought....liberals are NOT communists. There are no communists, they shut down all the kibbutz, which was communism in its manifesto-purist form. It doesn't work. Neither does oppressing the majority of the population through biology and religious dogma.


Who do I think I'm addressing? ....a hateful, miserable, idiot troll nostaligic for the 11th century. Just to inform you, they didn't have the internet then.





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Re: How Olog-HEIL feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc.

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 25 18:18:52 2012, in response to Re: How Olog-HEIL feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc., posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 25 17:45:03 2012.

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He'll never get anything from those aspirin crunching RW gals either.



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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by Italianstallion on Sat Feb 25 19:44:00 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 25 13:15:49 2012.

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As the bottom of the article made clear, the meeting was deliberately packed by the local clergy with birth control opponents.

Chris never gets to the end of articles.

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Re: How rocKKKparKKKnazi feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc.

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 25 20:36:17 2012, in response to Re: How Olog-HEIL feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc., posted by RockParkMan on Sat Feb 25 17:41:31 2012.

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People are a little tired of you wearing your Nazism on your sleeve, you know.

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Re: GOP Super Zogby

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 25 20:42:16 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 25 13:33:44 2012.

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Do you remember Obama and Hillary?

Heh, don't remind 'em. They don't like it . . . it's bad enough that the HuffyPost article was written by an open apologist for Islamic terrorism (himself a Muslim to boot).

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Re: How rocKKKparKKKnazi feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 25 21:03:30 2012, in response to Re: How rocKKKparKKKnazi feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc., posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 25 20:36:17 2012.

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Heh. Pot, Ma, Kettle.

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Re: How rocKKKparKKKnazi feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc.

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 25 21:04:58 2012, in response to Re: How rocKKKparKKKnazi feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc., posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 25 21:03:30 2012.

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Still talking to yourself?

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Re: How rocKKKparKKKnazi feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 25 21:11:16 2012, in response to Re: How rocKKKparKKKnazi feels: GOP Super Tuesday etc., posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 25 21:04:58 2012.

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Hitting the pills again? :)



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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Feb 25 21:34:55 2012, in response to GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Feb 25 12:43:15 2012.

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Wow you reallu dont remember the2008 democratic primaries.....obama and hillary ring a bell? Tbis is totally normal...the onlt reason the democrays dont have this is because they have an incumbant and have geir candidate. The only thing thats "lol" is the spin guys like you put on the whole thing.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 25 21:36:00 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Feb 25 21:34:55 2012.

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Relax; he's quoting James Zogby, the terrorist sympathizer/apologist.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Feb 25 21:37:33 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 25 16:56:15 2012.

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Only beacause you agree with their ideas.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by AlM on Sat Feb 25 22:13:39 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 25 12:59:02 2012.

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So she was booed for a policy that Obama has backed away from. Yawn.



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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 25 22:33:14 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by AlM on Sat Feb 25 22:13:39 2012.

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Obama never backed off on that.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Feb 26 08:29:29 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 25 21:36:00 2012.

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Please provide proof that Zogby is, in fact, a "terrorist sympathizer". Thank you.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 26 08:44:15 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 25 13:11:15 2012.

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"Congress shall make no law. . ." Implies no law against corporations either. Even though IMO corporations are not people and exist solely due to the operation of law.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 26 08:45:31 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Feb 25 21:37:33 2012.

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Anybody who agrees with Santorum on social issues is insane.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by Fred G on Sun Feb 26 09:07:44 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 26 08:45:31 2012.

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You just watch this place if Santorum indeed becomes the candidate.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Feb 26 09:18:04 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 26 08:45:31 2012.

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All Chris cares about is the dollars in his pocket.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 26 09:25:16 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Feb 25 13:16:42 2012.

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Except that it's incorrect.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 26 09:26:16 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Feb 26 09:18:04 2012.

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Funny, since I don't have many.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 26 09:26:45 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 26 08:45:31 2012.

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There's more than just social issues, regardless of the fact that's all the left has to push right now.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 26 09:35:59 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 26 09:26:45 2012.

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Um, it's Santorum and much of the prior Republican field other than Romney pushing social issues. Democrats are just reacting to what they say. They don't usually bring social issues up to begin with. It's not Democrats who try to make the morning-after pill be murder or insist on sonograms for women thinking about an abortion.





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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 26 09:36:58 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 26 09:25:16 2012.

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???

You have statistics suggesting that most people don't support the compromise on birth control?



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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Feb 26 09:44:43 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 26 09:36:58 2012.

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Except i was talking about her crap on. Corporations....i am not obsessed with birth control.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Feb 26 09:54:32 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 26 09:26:16 2012.

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You'll have more with the Dems.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Feb 26 10:11:18 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Feb 26 09:54:32 2012.

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In case you are forgetting....I've had the dems for four years.

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 26 10:27:31 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Feb 26 09:44:43 2012.

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Those hospitals and universities are corporations. Obviously you have no idea what a corporation actually IS.

As to your non-obsession....you ready to support 10+ kids? She'll be too busy pregnant, and caring for them

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 26 10:33:37 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 26 09:26:45 2012.

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Which are intertwined in economic issues. A woman that's using contraceptives keeps her family size manageable, affordable and can work (as in being up to the responsibilities of holding onto a job). Her children have the resources to grow up to become successful on their own. The parents have the chance to build their own savings and maintain independence in their old age. That also benefits their children, who by then will be able to focus on their own families. Fact is, that cannot happen without 2 incomes.

So, what was that about "social issues" being nebulous and independent of economic issues?

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Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?

Posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 26 10:38:39 2012, in response to Re: GOP Super Tuesday: LOLwut?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 26 08:44:15 2012.

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Corporations, a modern convention, fall under the umbrella of "Commerce" (the 18th century nomenclature) which the Constitution mandates Congress regulate.

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