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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 5 21:57:32 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 5 21:45:48 2012. The clip is presented by someone trying to make him out to be a racist....so it wasn't whoever made that youtube, but there's something wrong with that feed. There's a very noticeable slight glip right before he says it. You are a "journalist", that doesn't bother you? |
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Re: Republican candidate Santorum out of touch with African-Americans. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 5 21:58:18 2012, in response to Re: Republican candidate Santorum out of touch with African-Americans., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 5 21:57:12 2012. Actually, in the United States that would be true. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 5 22:01:36 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 5 21:53:27 2012. Selkirk did say it might be an audio compressor fault, something I'll look into. But how do you account for the absence of such a "skip" in the TV broadcast version? I saw it on the telly just a little while ago, too, no "hiccups" there at all. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 5 22:02:26 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 5 21:57:32 2012. I've seen the Santorum clip on TV, no hiccups or jumps there. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 5 22:02:34 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 5 21:44:32 2012. why does he have to go to that extent?Nothing anyone will show you will say anything different..nor will it change your mind. Agree to disagree and move on. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 5 22:07:02 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 5 22:02:26 2012. Well I haven't, so I am still going to be skeptical unless I see some sort of raw footage. It's too easy for EITHER side to play with the video to make it sound like or not sound like what they want. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 5 22:08:27 2012, in response to Re: Republican candidate Santorum out of touch with African-Americans., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 5 21:57:12 2012. Yes, the majority are white actually. In numbers, whites still are the majority. Blacks as a percentage of Black population have more on welfare, but in actual numbers, more whites are. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 5 22:10:29 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 5 21:44:44 2012. your kidding? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 5 22:11:13 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 5 22:01:36 2012. Again, I said "I can't hear him say it" in that video, and everyone on the "left" side of it jumped down my throat. I haven't seen any footage other than the one presented, and when you listen to it, it skips, and he doesn't say "black" clearly, if at all. In fact, to me it doesn't sound like it at all. Now it sounds like you actually listened and watched the video YOU posted, and you see the same problem I was talking about. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 5 22:13:37 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 5 22:02:34 2012. Sure it will, he finally admits there's a problem with that video feed. The same thing I was saying all along, but people were basically saying I am trying not to hear it. Have you watched that video? Again, in actuality, he may have said it. I never said he doesn't. But I can't hear it in THAT video. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 5 22:13:37 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 5 22:10:29 2012. Nope ... infosecisland.com ... up on top. I was called in to dig further on the story. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 5 22:16:14 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 5 22:01:36 2012. When a microphone is pointed right at you and you say a word beginning with a B or a P (it's called "pop") some digital processing will attempt to compress it and overshoot on a soft sound immediately following it. Chances are the broadcast audio was analog and properly compressed and Adobe overcompressed. Happens all the time in digitizing unless you back off the defaults. Adobe handles that VERY poorly. Dynamic range is a terrible thing these days where digitizing wants everything within 3dB. :( |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 5 22:17:45 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 5 22:13:37 2012. So I guess you won't be around for a while. Good luck with the story. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 5 22:22:32 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 5 22:17:45 2012. Going back and forth in email with Michael Menefee, and digging in another screen. Have time to lob grenades over the transom here while waiting for replies. Story's all over the front page though between Michael and Anthony. Might not need to do a byline, but I'm the only one on staff there who's written antivirus code and so far looks like old 2006 code was leaked and that code would never work on anything newer than vista so I don't see it as the catastrophe the non-coders are seeing it as.The antisec and lulzboat kids in India are pissed about the cellphone spying over there and so far, nothing I'm seeing of the code has anything to do with that or is even relevant. Can't wait until the regular media catches up with this story, I wait in anticipation of the pure hyperbole that'll be taking off. Heh. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 5 22:24:04 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 5 22:11:13 2012. Now it sounds like you actually listened and watched the video YOU posted, and you see the same problem I was talking aboutFinally, eh? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 5 22:34:33 2012, in response to Re: Republican candidate Santorum out of touch with African-Americans., posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 5 21:58:18 2012. Which makes Santorum's rant all the more "out of it." And yes, I know. I've seen the real numbers. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 5 22:35:08 2012, in response to Re: Republican candidate Santorum out of touch with African-Americans., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 5 22:08:27 2012. So shouldn't Santorum be trying to get WHITE people off welfare then? LOL |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 5 22:39:38 2012, in response to Re: Republican candidate Santorum out of touch with African-Americans., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 5 22:35:08 2012. Maybe so, but then he would be "racist" for only trying to help white people.... |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 5 22:41:55 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 5 22:13:37 2012. i did watch it..more than a few time..on cable too.. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 5 22:45:28 2012, in response to Re: Republican candidate Santorum out of touch with African-Americans., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 5 22:39:38 2012. But he CHOSE to mention a subset, and incorrectly at that. See what the problem there is yet? |
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Re: CLEAR-THINKING HUMANS know Santorum did say BLACK |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jan 5 23:04:11 2012, in response to Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 5 22:24:04 2012. Sorry...ologia.......but clear-thinking HUMANS can hear LOUD AND CLEAR what this moron-candidate say in IOWA.Again....stop re-writing history....makes you look more evil than you already ARE!.....take some advice......try knitting....you'd be good at it....instead of blowing your top when you disagree with the MAJORITY. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jan 5 23:15:27 2012, in response to Re: Republican candidate Santorum out of touch with African-Americans., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 5 21:29:07 2012. "I also can't tell what he said from the video, it's muffled, but assuming he did, I agree with you, what was so "racist"? "IMPLYING THAT ALL BLACKS are somehow on WELFARE when it's fartherest from the truth.....everyone knows there is an everygrowing Black middle-class in America. To somehow tell the voting public that Blacks are still reliant on welfare is racist at best...get it now and that somehow he's the one to FIX this self-reliance is f-up! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 5 23:49:10 2012, in response to Re: CLEAR-THINKING HUMANS know Santorum did say BLACK, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jan 5 23:04:11 2012. clear-thinking HUMANSDon't you wish you were one? Again....stop re-writing history Debunking lies is not "rewriting history", streecarracist. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jan 5 23:54:24 2012, in response to Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say BLACK, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 5 23:49:10 2012. "Don't you wish you were one?"ARE YOU WETTING YOUR PANTS AS YOU TYPE THAT? CAUSE I CAN FEEL THE ANGER OF A RIGHTIE.....YOU POOR PATHETIC SOUL. "Debunking lies is not "rewriting history", streecarracist." ARE YOU SAYING THE REST OF AMERICA IS LYING ABOUT WHAT THEY HEARD? HOW ANTI-AMERICAN CAN YOU GET OLOGIA? MORE PATHETIC YOU ARE READY ARE.......POOR SOUL! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 6 00:00:53 2012, in response to Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say BLACK, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jan 5 23:54:24 2012. ARE YOU SAYING THE REST OF AMERICA IS LYING ABOUT WHAT THEY HEARD?How can they hear anything when there's nothing to hear, brainless? You don't speak for the "rest of America". Now you're using all-caps, and that's the universal sign of desperation. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 6 00:06:03 2012, in response to Re: Republican candidate Santorum out of touch with African-Americans., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 5 22:34:33 2012. iawtp |
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Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say ''black'' |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Jan 6 00:08:42 2012, in response to Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say "black", posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 6 00:00:53 2012. "Now you're using all-caps, and that's the universal sign of desperation. "No way desperate for your approval....that would be so sick! "How can they hear anything when there's nothing to hear, brainless? You don't speak for the "rest of America". LOL....now that's a laugh...since I heard it as plain as day....and so did others on OT.....we all saw their posts on what they heard and they heard BLACK.....you denying that? if you want to believe a lie.....then your life continues to be MEANINGLESS...Ologia.... |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 6 00:10:57 2012, in response to Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say ''black'', posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Jan 6 00:08:42 2012. No way desperate for your approval. . . wow, open denial. The fact that you keep replying means you crave my approval. Don't know what they have you on in the group home, but you need to switch meds. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 6 02:07:52 2012, in response to Re: No lib thinks Santorum did not say ''black'', posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 6 00:10:57 2012. Nice..what a way to avoid the issue. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 6 07:30:28 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 5 17:03:26 2012. You don't WANT to make it out clearly. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 6 07:37:43 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 5 20:46:45 2012. I'm getting a kick out of seeing these Chatters disintegrate before our very eyes trying to put some other word in his.I stayed out of this thread until now for this very purpose. nahhhh...Frothy Mix clearly said "BLIND people". That's why he got the applause line. We all know that everyone hates blind people because they get to take their dogs into restaurants and that people are sick and tired of them getting this entitlement with other peoples money. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 6 07:53:52 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 5 17:03:26 2012. There is no skip.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 6 08:11:12 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 6 07:53:52 2012. Yes there is, right before he says it. Watch closely. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 6 08:18:29 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 6 08:11:12 2012. 00.36Thats when he made that comment if you didnt hear it i suggest check yer volume i heard it as clear as day. I even heard a lady in the background say.. "Yes" and agree with him... |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 6 08:41:49 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 6 08:11:12 2012. I did and there is no skip. It's clear as a bell. He may have stammered and said something that rhymes with black but there's no doubt that it sounds like he's saying "black people".your pal, Fred |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jan 6 10:57:12 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 6 08:41:49 2012. I must say I find this very funny. I haven't had a chance to listen to this but people really do hear what they expect to hear. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 11:53:39 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jan 5 17:54:36 2012. Rick Santorum as U.S. Senator for Pennsylvania was one of the creators of the Job Access Reverse Commute program, a program that gives funding to transit agencies and other local transportation organizations to expand public transportation to expanding job centers in the suburbs.http://static.votesmart.org/public-statement/96510/us-senator-santorum-comments-on-passage-of-the-surface-transportation-bill |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 11:56:59 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 5 16:03:30 2012. I think it was a freudian slip to be frank. *shrug* Honestly, I think there are many things to dislike about Santorum besides the fact that he "doesn't want to give money to black people". |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 6 11:58:56 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 11:53:39 2012. lol pwn3d |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 12:02:27 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 11:53:39 2012. To add onto this, the article states "Throughout my tenure in Congress, one of my highest priorities has been assisting those who are transitioning from welfare to the workplace. The JARC program has been essential to assisting families through this transition," said Senator Santorum.That's one of the things that differ between liberal democrats and moderate republicans. The Liberals are pro-welfare and don't mind having people live off of it indefinitely, while the moderate republicans prefer starter programs that wean people off of public assistance (whether they are ready or not). There should be a happy medium somewhere... :-\ Sadly, only the extremists get attention these days, which is sad because a president should really be somewhere in the middle of the spectrum. But that's just my opinion anyway... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:04:32 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 5 18:11:17 2012. No one even cared about him a few days ago. Now that he did well in Iowa, you liberals have become obsessed with him. I love how liberals find a target to obsess over, like they did with Palin and so many others over the years. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 12:07:23 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:04:32 2012. It is funny how suddenly he came out on top in Iowa...it didn't even seem like he was anywhere near winning Iowa. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 6 12:12:44 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 12:02:27 2012. I beg to differ. The biggest overhaul of the welfare system was done by the Clinton Administration, remember? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 6 12:14:27 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:04:32 2012. I was posting about Frothy here years ago. I'm not "obsessed" with him, nor are most "Liberals". He keeps calling attention to himself by saying outrageous and offensive things. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 6 12:20:14 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:04:32 2012. Nobody's obsessed, he just made the news. Tonight it'll be something and somebody else. THIW.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jan 6 12:22:04 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 6 12:20:14 2012. It really is. It seems like there's a featured republican candidate of the week with the primaries. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:26:26 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 6 12:12:44 2012. Only because the GOP took over Congress, which is the best thing to happen to America b/c Clinton would have done a lot of damage to this country with a liberal Congress helping him. THIW.I think that is what will happen in 2012. I think Obama will win, but I also see the GOP taking Senate. BTW- You always get pissed off when I say that Obama will win because his blocs of minorities, feminazis, homosexuals, and intellectual elitists will be out in full force. That's a very accurate portrayal of what happened in 2008 and what will happen again in 2012. I think it's funny that ChrisR16 thinks that NC and FLA are in play. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:28:07 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 6 12:20:14 2012. You're all worked up. I'm surprised. I didn't think you would get into the GOP primaries. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 6 12:34:03 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 6 12:28:07 2012. Hah..You seem to be all worked up there yourself,fella.Is That why you always dog show inflammatory post? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 6 12:39:02 2012, in response to Re: No one thinks Santorum did not say black, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 6 12:34:03 2012. Knowing K hes just typing away with that smile on his face!Never seen him get rattled.... |
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