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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 22 20:45:07 2011, in response to Re: Ecclesiastes Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 22 15:10:45 2011. Funny how they still don't get the fact that things haven't changed fundamentally over there. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 22 21:13:02 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 22 19:36:32 2011. What about Georgia sparing this Death Row inmate today, in a case where the man's guilt was never at issue? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 22 21:15:07 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 22 19:44:40 2011. It wasn't just the convict saying he was innocent. It was several eyewitnesses, plus all the people I mentioned earlier. do you really think a former FBI director (and federal judge) would speak on behalf of a convicted cop-killer otherwise? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 22 21:15:17 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 22 21:13:02 2011. I won't click the link. I just want to know why you think Davis is innocent. I think I know why. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 22 21:17:26 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 22 21:15:07 2011. You are cherry-picking the best parts of the story and leaving other parts out. That's how radicals operate. It's impossible to have a rational discussion with some people. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 22 21:26:00 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 22 21:15:17 2011. I think Davis is innocent for all the reasons I outlined previously. I don't think the state's case, given that the eyewitnesses it was built on have recanted their testimony, is believable.Why won't you click the link? I think i know why. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 22 21:26:41 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 22 21:17:26 2011. What "cherry-picking"? What did I "leave out"? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Sep 22 21:27:04 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 22 21:26:00 2011. iawtp |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Sep 22 21:48:50 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 22 21:26:00 2011. I think Davis is innocent for all the reasons I outlined previously.You think that he's innocent because a former FBI director, Jimmy Carter and the Pope said so? He may well have been, but I don't see those as compelling. Who really knows if the witnesses are lying now or then? And what about the witnesses that didn't recant. How is it that 9 witnesses would have colluded to convict an innocent man to death and then 22 years later change their minds? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 22 21:55:11 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Easy on Thu Sep 22 21:48:50 2011. Several witnesses said they were pressured or coerced into naming Davis as the killer. One such witness, for example, later stated in an affidavit that he was on parole, and was threatened with jail if he didn't finger Davis, another said she was threatened with the removal of her kids. I think the DA wanted a quick conviction in the high-profile case of a cop-killing, and he brought his prosecutorial weight to bear to see that it happened. The South is a strange place; they do things differently there. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 22 21:58:49 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 22 21:26:00 2011. LOL |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Sep 22 22:02:27 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 22 21:55:11 2011. I don't know what the south has to do with anything other than that it suggests that your opinions may be based at least in part on bias. FYI I lived in the south and most of my family is still in the south.He could have been innocent. I really don't know. I'm against the death penalty anyway, but I'm suspicious of people recanting sworn testimony that refuse to be cross examined by the prosecutors. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 22 22:02:50 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 22 21:55:11 2011. LOL |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Sep 22 22:04:57 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 22 21:55:11 2011. IAWTP ! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 22 22:05:04 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Easy on Thu Sep 22 22:02:27 2011. At least one case of recanted testimony, Davis himself never presented the affidavit during appeal because him and his lawyers knew that little of it would hold up under cross examination.What people leave out is that Davis shot a black kid in a car just before the incident with the cop. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Sep 22 22:06:58 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 22 22:05:04 2011. It's hard to find out much. I google the case and all of the articles say the same thing and with little detail. Few are objective. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Sep 22 22:07:47 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 22 21:13:02 2011. IAWTP |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 22 22:10:44 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Sep 22 22:07:47 2011. which part do you specifically agree with and why? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 22 22:11:09 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Easy on Thu Sep 22 22:06:58 2011. Right.Few articles mention that the jury was 7 blacks, 5 whites. That every single witness was black. That a black kid was shot by Davis just before the cop was shot or that the casings in each shooting are a match. Or that Davis got affidavits from people who recanted, but never used the affidavits in appeal because they were so weak they would never have held up. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 22 23:38:51 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 22 21:17:26 2011. you KNOW you do it more often than anyone here. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 22 23:57:20 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 22 19:36:32 2011. Weak ass bitch. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 23 00:30:37 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 22 15:12:38 2011. WHEN have I ever stated others' opinions for them on this board When you called me a homophobe, Mr. Reading-Comprehension and Sarcasm-Detection Challenged Moron. You're racist and a liar. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 23 00:32:30 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 23 00:30:37 2011. And when he called me a conservative (but I am more conservative than him, like nearly everyone else). |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 23 00:43:46 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 23 00:32:30 2011. Exactly. Thank you. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 23 06:57:59 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 23 00:30:37 2011. You ARE a homophobe, Self-Admitted Liar. Of course, you conveniently vaporized the thread that proves it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 23 07:01:35 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 23 06:57:59 2011. So says Mr. Reading-Comprehension and Sarcasm-Detection Challenged Moron. You're racist and a liar. If you can do it and you feel justified, then you have no right telling him that he can not. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 23 07:09:57 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 23 07:01:35 2011. Squawk! Turtle in Parrot Mode. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Sep 23 07:14:21 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 23 07:09:57 2011. That's one of his last lines of defense.. When he gets owned that's what he does... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 23 07:27:44 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 23 07:09:57 2011. So says Mr. Reading-Comprehension and Sarcasm-Detection Challenged Moron. You're racist and a liar. If you can do it and you feel justified, then you have no right telling him that he can not. |
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Posted by JayMan on Fri Sep 23 07:44:17 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 21 20:34:22 2011. By that logic nothing the Nazis did was murder...Be careful with your pronouncements... |
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Posted by JayMan on Fri Sep 23 07:48:10 2011, in response to Re:Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by The Silence on Wed Sep 21 23:17:49 2011. Why are we resorting to a book that says it's OK to keep slaves as a source of our morality? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Sep 23 07:52:05 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by JayMan on Fri Sep 23 07:44:17 2011. Be careful with your extremely poor comparisons. What the Nazi's did was starve, torture and enslave people based on factors such as religion. They performed unspeakable medical experiments on many. They sought, not to punish people for crimes that they committed but to eradicate entire cultures. Those same Nazi's were caught and tried in courts of law for their "crimes" and found guilty.Now, please show me how the state of Georgia, executing one person who was found guilty of murder in a court of law was equivalent to the systematic murder of 12 million Jews, and other "unsuitable" groups. Your comments are pathetic - worthy of our resident anti-Semite from upstate. |
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Posted by JayMan on Fri Sep 23 07:52:53 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 22 06:46:38 2011. It is a sad state of affairs.While I'm pro death penalty (because creatures like these need killing), I believe the case should always be airtight. In an age where you have DNA testing, there is no reason it should not be required where relevant in capital cases. The prosecution should have an airtight case to get a death penalty conviction. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Sep 23 07:54:41 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayMan on Fri Sep 23 07:52:53 2011. And YOU would be that arbiter or air-tightness? |
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Posted by JayMan on Fri Sep 23 07:58:23 2011, in response to Re: Ecclesiastes Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 22 15:10:45 2011. Yeah, we got a LOT of Jesus freaks here, but they have proven fundamentally harmless.Boy, you must not be watching current events. Is global warming, the financial meltdown, the potential beneficiaries of stem cell research not enough for you? |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 23 08:01:59 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by Train Dude on Fri Sep 23 07:52:05 2011. That's not the point tho. What the Nazi's did was of course horrific, but was all conducted under the law, hence the comments. Nobody is defending the Nazis, just poking holes in Chris' logic.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by JayMan on Fri Sep 23 08:05:03 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 23 08:01:59 2011. Thanks Fred. Sometimes I guess what I think is glaringly obvious is not as I think it is... ;) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Sep 23 08:12:55 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 23 08:01:59 2011. But what the Nazi's did was not done under the law, hence they were captured, tried and convicted. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Sep 23 08:20:31 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 21 20:33:00 2011. A lot of the "recanting" seems to come down to people not remembering what happened over a decade later. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Sep 23 08:25:35 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Sep 21 22:46:56 2011. Capital punishment is an abhorrent thing that serves no interest of justice at all.Locking people up is worse. Where did Brewer meet King? He went into prison a druggie and came out a burglar, a violent white supremacist, and a murderer. (And yes, it really is a classic case of why prosecuting drug users is not in the public interest.) And life without parole is a cop-out. It's capital punishment with an increased risk of escape. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Sep 23 08:35:36 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Sep 22 16:56:15 2011. Are you sure you got that white supremacist dirtbag's name right? Or did you just name his victim? |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Sep 23 08:39:28 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 22 21:13:02 2011. But what was his intent? |
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Posted by JayMan on Fri Sep 23 08:40:53 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by Train Dude on Fri Sep 23 08:12:55 2011. It was under their law... |
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Posted by JayMan on Fri Sep 23 08:42:04 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Sep 23 08:25:35 2011. And life without parole is a cop-out. It's capital punishment with an increased risk of escape.Nobody breaks out of a SuperMax my friend... |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 23 08:45:21 2011, in response to Re: Rick Perry commits another murder, posted by Train Dude on Fri Sep 23 08:12:55 2011. Of course it was. It was under their law and they were a sovereign nation. Had it not been for the war, it would have probably been unpunished.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 23 08:52:57 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Sep 23 08:35:36 2011. No, he got it right. Well known white supremicist James Byrd your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Sep 23 08:57:04 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 22 19:03:55 2011. I have previously established my opposition to CP.I'm ambivalent about it. I don't like the idea, but there are certain crimes where it is hard to think of any just alternative: 1) Treason 2) Murder, aggravated by one or more of the following: - murder and rape - murder and torture - murder and robbery - using a firearm or explosives - whilst resisting arrest or escaping from custody - of an on-duty police officer - of a prison officer by an inmate - the second of two or more murders - the clear intent to commit a second murder, for instance due to the first one being motivated by prejudice against a group of people |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Sep 23 09:00:59 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayMan on Fri Sep 23 08:42:04 2011. "And life without parole is a cop-out. It's capital punishment with an increased risk of escape."Nobody breaks out of a SuperMax my friend... That level of security is just monetizing the risk. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Sep 23 09:14:29 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by JayMan on Fri Sep 23 07:52:53 2011. DNA testing? How much DNA can you gather from a Burger King parking lot shooting?They had 30 witnesses, 7 black jurors, a dead cop and a young African-American with a gunshot wound. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 23 09:15:52 2011, in response to Re: Execution Carried Out, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Sep 23 08:25:35 2011. And life without parole is a cop-out. It's capital punishment with an increased risk of escape.It allows the sentence to be partially reversed if it is determined a mistake was made. |
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