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Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 22:04:21 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 21:50:40 2011. It includes hotel restaurant workers, not housekeeping. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:05:26 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 22:00:01 2011. yes he is a racist |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 22:14:09 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:05:26 2011. Where has he said something racist?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 22:15:05 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 21:49:00 2011. They all mention the same union. How many articles would it take to convince you that the hotel housekeeping union supports this law?The union has been very active in this cause. link Last week, on November 9, 2010, housekeepers employed by Hyatt Hotels filed complaints with OSHA alleging injuries sustained on the job. The complaints were filed in eight cities across the country, including Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Long Beach, San Antonio, Honolulu and Indianapolis. Similar OSHA actions may occur in Boston, NYC, DC, Atlanta, Las Vegas, Miami, and Orlando with higher concentrations of hotel properties. This is the first time that employees of a single private employer have filed multi-city OSHA complaints, and it appears to be a coordinated effort with organized labor, UNITE HERE. The housekeepers allege injuries arising from their daily room quotas and argue that cleaning rooms and lifting heavy mattresses lead to accidents and workplace injuries. The complaints allege that workers are discouraged from reporting injuries due to fear of retaliation and that monetary rewards for having a safe workplace discourages complaints. The housekeepers recommend several solutions, including changes to fitted sheets, mops and other equipment used to clean a room, as well as a cap on their daily room quota. |
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Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:18:03 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 21:49:17 2011. Float valve? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:20:10 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 22:00:01 2011. Well then he shouldn't be accusing others of being racist, simply because they disagree with a law. It's fucking ridiculous, and no one should stand for accusations like that. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:20:43 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 22:14:09 2011. read his comment. I'm sure you'll grasp it. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:21:55 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 22:14:09 2011. He sees everything (as much of the left apparently, as that's the only attack they consistently seem to use if they have nothing better).Where did I imply anything about race when I disagree with a moronic law about flat sheets? I have every right to be pissed at an accusation like that. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 22:22:24 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 19:08:18 2011. This is minor stuff.Requiring hotels to use fitted sheets for the benefit of a bunch of middle aged cleaning ladies is not what I'd call government overstepping it's bounds. These women work hard and they need every break they can get. No different than NYCT providing earplugs. It's all the same to me. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:23:01 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:18:03 2011. It's the part of a toilet that stops the water when the tank is full. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:24:11 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:20:10 2011. Absolutely correct. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:24:20 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 21:43:05 2011. Where?And I guess they should ban stoves and other "dangerous" equipment in the kitchen. Why should they risk getting burned cooking over a stove when they could use a safer microwave to make the meals instead? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:25:16 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 21:50:40 2011. Where does it say it includes hotel housekeepers? Or do the maids cook a meal on the beds with the flat sheets while they clean the bathrooms? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 22:25:55 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:18:03 2011. That one's on me ... just train dick being his usual retarded self with an IQ smaller than the diameter of a wheel that has to be cut off an axle because it's shot. When I worked for the TA, had a brake failure and I asked Jeff and a few others back on the old subtalk about what the failure mode might have involved. Something was said about a "float" in the ME-23 stand and with Train Dick's usual quality of reading and understanding things, he turned it into "float valve" rather than the original "float IN the valve" and continues his brain cramp.Ignore the tard ... he only has five ideas. That's just one of them. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 22:26:28 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 22:15:05 2011. I was calling your poker hand ("several")This piece shows they were part of a complaint to OSHA so there's the lead in for the legislation, sounds like. Somebody lobbied for this, and on what I've seen it sounds like the union did. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:27:13 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 21:37:31 2011. Perhaps you should read what you link to:The study detailed data on more than 137,000 claims filed by restaurant workers in California for work-related injuries that occurred from January 2000 through the end of 2008. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:28:22 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 21:48:40 2011. Well, if it includes waiters, perhaps restaurants in California should be required to use styrafoam plates and plastic utensils....After all, they are lighter. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 22:31:32 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:20:10 2011. Calling you a racist was a low blow. You have been consistent in your opinion that government is going too far in certain aspects. Not sure why he played the racist card on you. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:31:38 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:23:01 2011. Yes, but I haven't had a problem with mine. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:32:09 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 22:31:32 2011. Ask Fred!!! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:33:00 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:31:38 2011. Sooo sorry. That was meant for someone else. Let me correct that right now. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 22:33:22 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:27:13 2011. Psssst ... get back to me when you read the rest ... |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:33:26 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 21:15:54 2011. Speaking of toilets, did you get your float valve working yet |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 22:33:38 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:21:55 2011. To the contrary, it's the right-wingers who are race obsessed.I then call them out and they promptly writhe violently like the wounded snakes that they are. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:34:20 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 22:22:24 2011. I know they work hard. I admire them. In fact, I am good friends with someone who's mother is a maid in a hotel in Manhattan..I respect the work they do, and always tip them well too when I leave a hotel. But the there's no problem with flat sheets in hotels, and they make sense considering how often they are cleaned and changed. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:36:45 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 22:33:38 2011. Yet it was you who made the racial inuendo using hispanic sounding names. then you must be what you hate the most - a right-winger... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:37:41 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 22:33:38 2011. I oppose all sorts of laws like this when government goes too far, it has nothing to do with "race". Who is even thinking about race except SOB's like you that have nothing better to do than accuse people of being racist because they oppose a law. It's fuckin ridiculous, and I am NOT kidding. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:41:54 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:34:20 2011. The mother of one of the managers who worked for me, was a maid at the hotel at the World Trade Center. Her name wasn't Consuelo or Lupe - she was Irish and her name was Bridget. So much for Smazzo's racist rhetoric. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 22:42:28 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:33:26 2011. Have you learned to pay attention yet? Heh.
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 22:43:57 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 22:33:38 2011. You said "Lupe and Consuelo". That's bigoted.Besides. It's always Lupita!!! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:44:54 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 22:42:28 2011. Wow, bet the float valve on that bike fucked up, too! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:45:21 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 22:43:57 2011. Absolutely |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 22:47:15 2011, in response to Re: Does Nancy Pelosi Support: Cali. bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:44:54 2011. Nah ... clearly human error. :) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 22:47:15 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 22:43:57 2011. The great majority of hotel maid personnel in California is made up of Hispanic women. That's a fact.You are the one who said this bill is for "Nicky the Maid". |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:47:25 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 22:41:54 2011. Yes, while he was trying to insinuate those against this bill are racist, he was being racist by insinuating that all maids are Hispanic, assuming only Hispanics would do such "menial labor". |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:48:17 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 22:47:15 2011. Nicky implies some sort of race? |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 22:50:55 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 22:33:22 2011. Like what? It says "Hospitality Workers" so you thought that it meant hotel when it actually was a survey of injuries among restaurant workers that worked in restaurants, taverns, wineries, and hotels. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 22:51:44 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:48:17 2011. Everyone knows who Nicky, the illegal maid of Meg Whitman is. It is LuchAAA who did the race-baiting by bringing her up, yet somehow I'm the racist asshole when I call people on it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 22:51:52 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 22:47:15 2011. Uh-oh ... :)
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 22:52:17 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:47:25 2011. Since the thread is about California, yeah, probably a really good chance we're talking Hispanic housecleaning staff.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 22:53:47 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 22:51:44 2011. Nicky is a real person. You sarcastically said, "Lupe y Consuelo" to imply that Chris is a bigot.My mention of Nicky has nothing to do with you implying that Chris is bigoted and that's he's against the bill because the workers are Hispanic. And I said from the start that I support the bill. You forget to mention that. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 22:55:45 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:47:25 2011. That's how SMAZ is.You would be against this bill if it was in a state with a low hispanic population like South Carolina or North Dakota. Clearly race has nothing to do with your response. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 22:57:48 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 22:50:55 2011. Have to admit that yes I did ... "hospitality industry" usually means hotels and incidentals ... I went after this last night and found quite a few things to bolster what I had posted. Then I turned off my machine and went to bed. Never realized that this was even more important than Bin Hidin' but leave it to OTchat ... heh. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 23:01:34 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 22:47:15 2011. That's no reason to call Chris a bigot contra hispanos.You played the race card against him because that's who you are as a person. He'd be equally upset about the bill if it was in a non-Hispanic dominant state |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 23:04:38 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 22:47:15 2011. The great majority of hotel maid personnel in California is made up of Hispanic women.As someone that has traveled California quite a bit, it has to be well over 90%. I've seen very few white women doing housekeeping and they could just as easily have been light skinned Hispanic. I've seen a few Asians (probably Filipino), but I have never seen a black woman in housekeeping in California. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 23:09:09 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 23:04:38 2011. yes. but smaz was out of line calling GP38Chris a bigot and saying he's insensitive to Hispanic workers. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 23:16:33 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 22:47:25 2011. Liberal playbook for discussion when losing an argumentA) Try personal insults. B) Post false information that you can't verify. C) Insinuate that the other person is a racist. D) If all else fails - say you have more important things to do and then go off and sulk. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 23:21:24 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 23:16:33 2011. You're a liberal?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed May 4 23:21:40 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 23:16:33 2011. how about ignore the post when you right wing folks cant defend your point |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 23:23:00 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed May 4 23:21:40 2011. LOL - against your comments? |
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