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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop . . .

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 06:19:25 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop . . ., posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 12 06:18:44 2011.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop . . .

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 06:20:03 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop . . ., posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 11 16:27:34 2011.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 06:20:55 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 11 10:52:16 2011.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop . . .

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 12 06:22:38 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop . . ., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 06:19:25 2011.

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Wait until terrorpin's dad finds out that he's been slacking off in the mailroom and writing books on the corporate clock! :)

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 06:32:45 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 06:03:25 2011.

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lol

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Re: Mubarak Resigns and This Guy Becomes the Next Antoine Friggin Youtube

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 06:46:10 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Resigns and This Guy Becomes the Next Antoine Friggin Youtube, posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 11 11:58:14 2011.

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8-)

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Re: Mubarak resigns, Ahmadinejad declares ''New Middle East''

Posted by RockParkMan on Sat Feb 12 07:34:05 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak resigns, Ahmadinejad declares ''New Middle East'', posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 11 22:19:10 2011.

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Pew has credibility but the business communuity wants America to fail when it is under a Democratic Administration.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop . . .

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 08:55:29 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop . . ., posted by SMAZ on Fri Feb 11 17:09:21 2011.

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You know, Hitler was good to the Germans while he was in power. Most of them anyway. Of course he left them with a sack of shit in the end so don't anyone think I'm glorifying him.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mubarak resigns, Ahmadinejad declares ''New Middle East''

Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 12 08:56:21 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak resigns, Ahmadinejad declares ''New Middle East'', posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 12 01:34:44 2011.

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That the best you got? Want me to bring up videos from CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, CNBC, even Fox with people saying they want freedom, want rights, want better pay?

Oh wait...

They're all liberal and thus are worth ignoring...

but just for you later on I'ma post hundred of videos to counter your little video and I hope that you never post on in Egypt thread or any international thread again because you have NO understanding of the world around you.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 12 08:57:01 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 11 10:20:29 2011.

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Proof of your bullshit claim chris?

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Re: Mubarak resigns, Ahmadinejad declares ''New Middle East''

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 09:01:51 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak resigns, Ahmadinejad declares ''New Middle East'', posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 12 08:56:21 2011.

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I'm not going out too far on a limb in either direction (although to agree with Olog is asking for a spanking). It could be that the Army stays in charge, everybody gets a raise and a longer lunch hour and that's it. New guy, same old shit.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop . . .

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 12 09:04:13 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop . . ., posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 08:55:29 2011.

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One of the things that led to the rise of Hitler was the way we just let German wollow after WWI. The aftermath of WWI leaving Germany in Shambles is what made a figure like Hitler so easy to rise, as the people were desperate.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 12 09:05:26 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 12 08:57:01 2011.

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Proof of what claim? Read the link. It's self explanitory. I agree with what is said there. An OPINION isn't fact, it's an opinion, and is no worse or better that your opinion, as much as you seem to think your opinion is Gospel.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 12 09:15:18 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 12 09:05:26 2011.

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How about an analysis... that would be a good start... anyone can find an opinion that works for them... thats easy... try finding an analysis this time... once again take your bullshit claim and find some backup for it

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop . . .

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 09:15:31 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop . . ., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 12 09:04:13 2011.

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Good point and a good reminder not to leave a vacuum or let one sit for too long. Hungry people will reach for anything that brings them food.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 09:28:44 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 12 09:15:18 2011.

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Jeez, I think you're asking him questions the author should be answering. The article contains a lot of the same spin the Republicans have been dishing up since the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction was just a mirage in the desert. "Oh it was about liberating Iraq and bringing democracy. Yeah...that's it." "Uhhh...ok, well it was about inspiring the rest of the region to embrace democracy....Yeah, that's it."

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by clearaspect on Sat Feb 12 10:10:03 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 09:28:44 2011.

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Exactly...and the only wmds they found were mustard gas canisters so old they couldn't be used anyway...probably had made in USA on them from the Iran-Iraq war.

If anything Arab leaders will be very weary of being supported by the US..look at Saddam and Mubarak...when they played their part they were buddies but when their usefulness ran out they went into the garbage.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 10:12:42 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 06:32:45 2011.

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Hey you have killfile!
You can't read my posts!
How do you know what he's responding too!


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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 10:13:49 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 06:03:25 2011.

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Do you know something about Salaam I don't?
He's 59 years old, he can answer for himself!

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 10:15:35 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 10:13:49 2011.

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BTW, if you always respond to my posts about Salaam aren't you obsessing about something there?

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by shiznit1987 on Sat Feb 12 10:37:06 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 11 15:34:12 2011.

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It's called realpolitik, and we're failing at it. Most countries aren't hamstrung by the PR America constantly tries to reinforce. If China, Britian, France, Tanazania, or whoever does something in their own best interest, they're not afriad to call it looking out for number 1. America cares about looking out for number one, it's just that our jingoism forces us to reassure ourselves we are "Morally Right" and have "Divine Provence".

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 10:39:13 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by clearaspect on Sat Feb 12 10:10:03 2011.

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Yeah but no leader is good for his own people for long terms like 30 years. They get burnt out and über-corrupt. I'm glad we have elections every 4 years and 2 for Congress so we can limit terms. Imagine G W Bush for 20 or 30 years? Sheesh*

your pal,
Fred


*cue up the "or Obama" response in 10, 9, 8....

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 10:40:15 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 10:15:35 2011.

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Since I don't always respond to your posts about him, uh, no.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by shiznit1987 on Sat Feb 12 10:43:55 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 11 12:56:26 2011.

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OBL said he wanted to "Bankrupt America", and by running around supporting a quarter of the world as essenceally geo-political colonies, we will ultamitley meet that end. Britian did and so did the Russians.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 10:44:10 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by shiznit1987 on Sat Feb 12 10:37:06 2011.

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I blame Disney for that kind of social arrested development in the US. That and all the sugar people ingest.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 10:50:11 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by shiznit1987 on Sat Feb 12 10:43:55 2011.

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That's why I call the second Iraqi war the American Stalingrad.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 12 10:51:38 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 09:28:44 2011.

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Jeez, I think you're asking him questions the author should be answering.

Exactly. And I agree with he author's assessment. No more to say.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 12 10:52:25 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 10:39:13 2011.

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*cue up the "or Obama" response in 10, 9, 8....


Imagine we had....ah you get the idea... (And yes, you are correct).


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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 12 10:55:44 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 10:44:10 2011.

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The Happiest Place on Earth? Nah.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Feb 12 11:20:02 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 11 09:22:38 2011.

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The agrrement reached for Mubarak's resignation, was that he would be allowed to seek refuge in the United Arab Emirates, AFTER first traveling to Sharm-al-Sheikh.

I did not state as fract that Mubarak was going to the UAE, only that Al-Jazeera was reporting it.

You need help for your constant, pathological habit of making personal attacks on people.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 12 11:27:28 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Feb 12 11:20:02 2011.

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AJ is reporting Mubarak is en route to the UAE at this hour. Why are yoiu unwilling to believe them?

If he went to the UAE, then they were correct and your faith in them was rewarded.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 11:29:01 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 12 10:52:25 2011.

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I've been here before :P

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop . . .

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 12 11:29:56 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by shiznit1987 on Sat Feb 12 10:37:06 2011.

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It's called realpolitik, and we're failing at it

We're failing at it because we never took any steps to stop it. There would be no realpolitik if we kept the source of it down.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Feb 12 11:38:28 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 12 11:27:28 2011.

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According to the reported terms of an agreement on Mubarak's resignation, he was to be permitted travel to Sharm-Al-Sheikh, then refuge in the UAE.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 11:46:44 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Feb 11 21:07:28 2011.

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Fred

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop! (From Cairo to Sharm el-Sheikh)

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Feb 12 12:03:55 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop! (From Cairo to Sharm el-Sheikh), posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Feb 11 10:00:33 2011.

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Shavua tov!

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 12 12:10:57 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 10:39:13 2011.

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Imagine G W Bush for 20 or 30 years?

Oh come on. He would not have run in his mid-seventies, not with all the grief the propagandized anti-US world keeps giving us (even under Obama, who they think they can push around). Four terms is sixteen years after all.

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 12:13:00 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 12 12:10:57 2011.

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I was making a point that nobody is welcome as a leader for 20 or 30 years. Except Fidel; he had the majik.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by mr mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 12:58:18 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 12:13:00 2011.

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There are those involved with Santeria who claim Fidel had a spell cast in his favor towards the God Ellegua.
If its true it was a powerful spell.


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Re: Mubarak resigns, reveals democracy in Egypt will result in radical Islamic government

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 12 13:22:46 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak resigns, Ahmadinejad declares ''New Middle East'', posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 12 08:56:21 2011.

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That the best you got?

Actually, this from Ha'aretz (a left-leaning Israeli publication) is pretty awesome, especially since the report is from Reuters (also left-leaning). I never need to go to "conservative" sources when the mainstream media, even the left-leaning ones, can no longer hide the truth. You're pretty stubborn, especially when everyone to your "right" is always proven right and your version of "reality" is liberal opinion . . .

Published 21:21 11.02.11 | Latest update 21:21 11.02.11

Mubarak slammed U.S. in phone call with Israeli MK before resignation

Radical Islam will be result of U.S. push for democracy, Mubarak told Israel's Ben-Eliezer during a phone call on Thursday.

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Hosni Mubarak had harsh words for the United States and what he described as its misguided quest for democracy in the Middle East in a telephone call with an Israeli lawmaker a day before he quit as Egypt's president.

The legislator, former cabinet minister Benjamin Ben-Eliezer, said on TV Friday that he came away from the 20-minute conversation on Thursday with the feeling the 82-year-old leader realized "it was the end of the Mubarak era".

"He had very tough things to say about the United States," said Ben-Eliezer, a member of the Labor Party who has held talks with Mubarak on numerous occasions while serving in various Israeli coalition governments.

"He gave me a lesson in democracy and said: 'We see the democracy the United States spearheaded in Iran and with Hamas, in Gaza, and that's the fate of the Middle East,'" Ben-Eliezer said.

"'They may be talking about democracy but they don't know what they're talking about and the result will be extremism and radical Islam,'" he quoted Mubarak as saying.

U.S. support for pro-democracy elements in Iran has not led to regime change in the Islamic Republic, and Hamas, a group Washington considers to be a terrorist organization, won a 2006 Palestinian election promoted by the United States.

Hamas seized control of the Gaza Strip in 2007 after a coalition government it formed with Western-backed Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas collapsed in a power struggle.

Ben-Eliezer said Mubarak expanded in the telephone call on "what he expects will happen in the Middle East after his fall".

"He contended the snowball (of civil unrest) won't stop in Egypt and it wouldn't skip any Arab country in the Middle East and in the Gulf.

"He said 'I won't be surprised if in the future you see more extremism and radical Islam and more disturbances — dramatic changes and upheavals," Ben-Eliezer added.

Egypt in 1979 became the first Arab country to sign a peace treaty with Israel and has backed U.S.-led efforts to end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Last week, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned of an Iran-style Islamist revolution in Egypt should Mubarak's Muslim Brotherhood rivals eventually take over.

"He repeated the sentence, 'I have been serving my country, Egypt, for 61 years. Do they want me to run away? I won't run away. Do they want to throw me out? I won't leave. If need be, I will be killed here,'" Ben-Eliezer said.


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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 13:31:31 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 12 10:40:15 2011.

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lol

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 13:43:54 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 11:46:44 2011.

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lol !

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 14:12:06 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 13:43:54 2011.

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You celebrate Christmas Minister Salaam?

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 14:12:48 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 13:31:31 2011.

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You killfile stopped working I guess?

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 14:21:03 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 14:12:06 2011.

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your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 14:36:05 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 14:21:03 2011.

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lol!

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 15:14:57 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 14:21:03 2011.

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He should be! Salaam has three websites selling kill the white man tapes!
My favorite?
THE WHITE MAN IS THE DEVIL-GOD INTENDS TO DESTROY HIM AND HIS WORLD-SEPARATE BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!
Buy them here!

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 15:21:56 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 14:36:05 2011.

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Does this count towards ignoring me and not responding to me?

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 15:27:16 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 12 15:21:56 2011.

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your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 12 15:27:47 2011, in response to Re: Mubarak Flies The Coop!, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 12 15:27:16 2011.

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lol

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