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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 31 20:46:10 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 18:47:10 2010.

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pwnt. mega pwn4g3.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 31 20:47:53 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:20:07 2010.

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Funny how anti-American he's gotten lately, eh?

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 21:11:59 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:35:26 2010.

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Whe's Olog to spank him over that? Heh. InBev is a BELGIAN company. Not American at all. :)

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 21:13:29 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:39:30 2010.

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Dewd ... it was "ye" who took that diverge. If you're up on your Monty Python, think of the scene with the fish-slapping. :)

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 21:22:15 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 31 20:47:53 2010.

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You are the one sticking up for a Belgian company, not me.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 21:25:54 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 21:22:15 2010.

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And WHERE is the Queen's chamber of the EU hive? Heh.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by WillD on Sat Jul 31 21:56:45 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 31 17:28:12 2010.

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I have a wrapper from a bottle of Budweiser Budvar I got in London, which I got a kick out of after drinking Czechvar here in the states. It's definitely available in Dublin and London.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by WillD on Sat Jul 31 22:16:10 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 18:33:18 2010.

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The real Budweiser as far as 90% of the world

Does not matter. The "real" Budwizzer beer dates to 1876. Budweiser Budvar dates to sometime in the 13th Century and was commercially produced from the 16th Century. That makes for a slight issue of precedence. Never mind that Adolphus Busch specifically named his beer for the Czech brew because of its notoriety within Bohemia and Bavaria. He even stole the marketing slogan for Budvar and changed it from "The Beer of Kings" into "The King of Beers".

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Jul 31 22:17:47 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 02:50:32 2010.

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Photobucket>

LOL

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Jul 31 22:19:16 2010, in response to Anheuser-Busch loses "Budweiser" trade mark in EU, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 31 02:11:25 2010.

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These guys are not amused:



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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 22:24:15 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by WillD on Sat Jul 31 22:16:10 2010.

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Budweiser Budvar dates to sometime in the 13th Century and was commercially produced from the 16th Century.

Wikipedia says that they were founded in 1895. Another company that uses "Budweiser" was founded in 1795.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 22:53:26 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Jul 31 22:17:47 2010.

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And they WON the lawsuit too! :

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Jul 31 22:59:02 2010, in response to Anheuser-Busch loses "Budweiser" trade mark in EU, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 31 02:11:25 2010.

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"the other company was using the name "Budějovický" instead "

Do you read what you post?

"Budějovický Budvar sought to block the application because it used the name [Budweiser] in Austria and Germany."

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Re: CHOOSING WISELY (Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU)

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Jul 31 23:00:51 2010, in response to CHOOSING WISELY (Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 19:28:20 2010.

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World's best chart!

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 31 23:13:09 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:49:44 2010.

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Major brands of American beer have a reputation, in the EU, as generally being lightweight crap that tastes awful. I'm surprised Trollog hasn't tied it in to some stupid political EU plot of the type he's always carrying on about. You now, the one's with hotlinks that no one reads.

That being said. IMO, American beer, in general *is* crap.Budweiser, eeeeew. I do drink beer about once a month and it's never American mainstream swill.Some foreign brews, never Heineken, smells like skunk piss. Certain "high octane" malt liquors, yes, they achieve the desired result quickly. Joose is my current fave at almost 20 proof and up (9.9% alc. 20 proof!)it gets the job done, comes in about 8 flavors too! And available at all midtown, get this, Duane Reades in many flavors @ 3$ for a 24 oz cans.

Rosa recently posted he tried Joose and was embarrassed that he liked it, I did the same based on his recommendation.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 31 23:18:22 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 19:59:15 2010.

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The popularity of ANY beer produced by Coors mystifies me. Not to mention the company is a world wide leader in oppressing it's workers AND anti-union practices. They're like the Wal-Mart of beer companies.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Aug 1 01:48:27 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 31 23:18:22 2010.

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I piss and shit on Coors.

No wait....that would actually make their beer taste better.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 07:54:03 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 21:11:59 2010.

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Yes, I know that. They are using the old recipe though.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 07:55:26 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 31 23:18:22 2010.

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Molsen bought them, no?

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 07:56:49 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jul 31 23:13:09 2010.

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Yuck, Heineken is disgusting.

Malt liquor. Gross!

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 07:57:51 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 20:01:27 2010.

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I don't like Pilsners anyway.

That explains your dislike for Bud.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 07:58:40 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 20:33:30 2010.

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Absolutely true. I hate the taste of Dutch beer, and always feel like crap after drinking it, even just a little. And Stella is horrible too.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 07:59:53 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:57:40 2010.

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A lot of their beers (even the non-mainstream ones) have that same certain taste that I just loathe (you taste it in most of their beers like Heineken, etc). I just don't like that taste.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 08:01:10 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 20:04:32 2010.

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And with that you are implying that Americans drink crap. They HAVE the choice of whatever they want, and regardless of your rant about commercialization, they have had that choice for a least 30-40 years. Anyone 40-50 and younger always did.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 08:02:33 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 20:37:49 2010.

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We've had beer distributers in the city, as well as choice in the stores for 25-30+ years.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 08:04:30 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 20:18:10 2010.

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Yeah, I absolutely hate Coors, but used to like Molsen when I was in my 20's. I outgrew it, I know the taste you mean, as well as the aftereffect which I don't get with other beers (aside from Dutch). I do like Labatt's Blue - sometimes. Sometimes Canadian beers have a sort of sweet bite which I don't like either.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 08:06:52 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 22:24:15 2010.

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Ahhh, so our Budweiser was first.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 08:07:42 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Jul 31 22:19:16 2010.

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I heard Er wasn't feeling so well...

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Aug 1 15:29:55 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:47:20 2010.

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There are good American beers. Samuel Adams is a particularly fine example.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Aug 1 15:32:53 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:07:09 2010.

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Imagine what the reputation of good California wine would have been if Ripple or Thunderbird had been exported abroad and became synonymous with American "wine". That's what Bud did to America's reputation.

That's precisely the issue German wine has in Britain. Thanks to the ghastly Blue Nun, there is a completely unfounded but extremely widespread prejudice against all German wine.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Aug 1 15:37:12 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:41:52 2010.

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No, the worst thing about it is that it tastes of nothing, but contains so many things that shouldn't be in any lager that drinking any quantity of it results in the mother of all hangovers.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Aug 1 15:40:25 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 20:24:00 2010.

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Heh. You reminded me of the perils of buying Stella Artois. At one point it came in two versions: the one that was made in Belgium and was actually a nice lager, and the one that was made under licence in Luton, England, and was absolutely dreadful. The only way of telling them apart was to see if a dreaded address in Luton appeared on the label.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Aug 1 15:41:15 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:05:30 2010.

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For nothing beer there's always Bitburger. That doesn't have funny stuff in it.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Aug 1 15:46:05 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:20:07 2010.

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Actually, I don't like Dutch or Belgium beers. They are some of my least favorite "foreign" beers. I do like German beers (some of them).

Well, the Dutch/Belgian (/Northern French) style is very different. I can see how someone could just not like it at all. I personally really enjoy many of those beers. And there is some terrific German stuff -- nothing beats a dark weissbier!

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Aug 1 15:54:30 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:58:33 2010.

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"I might try the Czech Bud if I had the chance, but it's not high on my list."

You are not missing much. It's nothing special. It's just better than American Bud.


Agreed. It's one of those beers that is just pleasant. I could have a very happy evening in with a few bottles of the Czech stuff, some food, and something on the television. I could say the same for quite a few beers.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 16:00:11 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Aug 1 15:40:25 2010.

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Well the Stella we have on tap in bars here must be that "dreadful" version from Luton....as wow, is it bad.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 16:01:23 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Aug 1 15:46:05 2010.

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I like many German beers, it doesn't have that certain "taste" that many Dutch/Belgium beers have, that I just hate. Weissbier is good, I have to be in the mood for it though.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 16:04:21 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Aug 1 15:37:12 2010.

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I don't drink Bud often, but usually when I do have it, it's when I am having a lot of beer, and I never get a hangover from Bud. I get almost an instant hangover from Dutch beers.
It seems though, it's sometimes the redish beers or the darker beers I get a hangover from. I like Killians, but it gives me a hangover if I have too much of it. But then again, I can drink the "red" beer at a local brewpub near me, their own version, and I don't. Go figure.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 16:05:23 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Aug 1 15:32:53 2010.

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Even here we don't think of German wine as being all that great....I think of Beer when I think of German drinks...not wine.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by WillD on Sun Aug 1 16:13:25 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 22:24:15 2010.

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Not quite. From their history page it is apparent that Budvar was a commercialization of the former municipal brewing in what is now České Budějovice. Unfortunately whoever wrote the Wikipedia page misread the Budvar history page.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 1 16:17:49 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Aug 1 15:46:05 2010.

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I'm particularly fond of Kronenbourg (Alsace) even though it's part of the Carlsberg family. Nice stuff from the region.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 1 16:19:44 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 16:00:11 2010.

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Made by SAB in Georgia here at the same plant that once made Billy Beer. :)

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 1 16:22:48 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Aug 1 15:40:25 2010.

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I used to absolutely love Foster's from Oz when they used to ship the concentrate over by freighter to Canada where they just reconstituted the water. Now it's made by SAB in Georgia and it tastes like something you've had the fortune not to have to endure in the UK - a brand known over here as Carling. Ick.

Fortunately, for all his faults, President Jimmy Carter granted us the right to make our OWN beer and ale in our basements. Cheers! :)

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 1 16:25:32 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Aug 1 15:32:53 2010.

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You'll be amused to know that swill made it over here, and actually became popular for a while ... amongst bums. :)

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 1 16:39:37 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 07:54:03 2010.

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Yes ... which is now owned by the Belgians. :)

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 1 16:41:08 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 07:58:40 2010.

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Stella was actually VERY good ten years plus ago. But when it became an Anheuser-Busch sized operation, it went quickly into the shitter.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 1 16:47:13 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 08:02:33 2010.

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There were precisely zero by the time I left. Back then, you had to go to Connecticut or White Plains to get anything other than the 12 beer brands the NYC beer cartel allowed anyone to sell. :(

Connecticut had *everything* while White Plains had hundreds of brands.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 1 16:48:11 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 08:04:30 2010.

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If you happen to spot St Ambroise anywhere, give it a try ... those zany French Canadiens can actually brew. :)

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 1 16:49:24 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 08:06:52 2010.

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Nope ... maybe their lawyers were first, but the Czechs have been making the real deal for a much longer time.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 1 16:50:00 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 1 08:07:42 2010.

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Yeah, he croaked a few years ago. :)

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