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Anheuser-Busch loses "Budweiser" trade mark in EU

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 31 02:11:25 2010

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Doesn't matter how long they've been selling Bud over there, apparently. Certainly doesn't matter that the other company was using the name "Budějovický" instead (only happens that it translates as "Budweiser" in German). This is a territorial whizzing war, and nobody in the USA is picking up the ball, or in the EU for that matter (this is a big blow to InBev).

EU Business News

Anheuser-Busch loses Budweiser trademark war in Europe

30 July 2010, 11:57 CET

LUXEMBOURG — Global brewer Anheuser-Busch InBev on Thursday lost its court battle with Czech rival Budějovický Budvar over a bid to get a European Union-wide trademark for the Budweiser brand.

The European Court of Justice ruling puts an end to Anheuser-Busch's long-running legal fight with Budvar to reserve the exclusive rights to the Budweiser brand in Europe.

"Anheuser-Busch may not register the word 'Budweiser' as a (European) Community trademark for beer," said a statement from the EU's highest court.

In 1996, US brewer Anheuser-Busch applied to register Budweiser for an EU trademark but Budějovický Budvar sought to block the application because it used the name in Austria and Germany.

The EU's Office for Harmonization in the Internal Market rejected Anheuser-Busch's application. The US brewer appealed to the European General Court, which upheld the trademark office's decision in March 2009.

While the ruling means that Anheuser-Busch cannot get a blanket trademark for the 27-nation European Union as a whole, the brewer can have trademarks in individual EU markets.

Belgian brewer InBev bought Anheuser-Busch for $52 billion in 2008 with ambitions to transform the Budweiser brand into its flagship international product.


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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 02:50:32 2010, in response to Anheuser-Busch loses "Budweiser" trade mark in EU, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 31 02:11:25 2010.

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And even before the EU was established, Apple Computer, Inc lost a similar case to Apple Records (UK) ... solution? Steve had to open his checkbook.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 03:56:02 2010, in response to Anheuser-Busch loses "Budweiser" trade mark in EU, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 31 02:11:25 2010.

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(this is a big blow to InBev).

Because as we all know, InBev is an American company.


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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 31 08:37:12 2010, in response to Anheuser-Busch loses "Budweiser" trade mark in EU, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 31 02:11:25 2010.

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Hmm. It seems that in 1911 Anheuser Busch signed an agreement to only use the name Budweiser in North America.

And please note that German was the official language of the area where Budweiser was originally made for 133 of the 215 years since the beer was first made there. So perhaps the name "Budweiser" has some pretty strong roots in Europe.



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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jul 31 09:00:02 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 31 08:37:12 2010.

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Not to mention the small issue that the Czech version is a better beer.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 10:10:04 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jul 31 09:00:02 2010.

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I've never had the Czech one, but Bud's popularity is based on it's mass appeal. The qualities that those that accuse it of being tasteless might say that it lacks are exactly what make it so popular because it's non-offensive.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 10:30:40 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 10:10:04 2010.

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Bud is a light tasting beer. Often, I want something with more taste, but that's if I am in the mood. If I want something light, especially in the summer, Bud is fine.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 17:19:06 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 10:10:04 2010.

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Over THERE though, the Czech "Bud" is much more popular.



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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 31 17:24:41 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 10:10:04 2010.

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Bud does have some taste. Coors Light is like seltzer with a hint of beer.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 17:26:18 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 17:19:06 2010.

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Over where? I've only been to England and France and the Anheuser Busch Bud was orders of magnitude more popular. I never saw nor even heard of the Czech version while there.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 17:28:11 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 31 17:24:41 2010.

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I have no problem with Bud. I like Miller for American style pilsner, byt Bud is ok too.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 31 17:28:12 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 17:26:18 2010.

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The Czech version is not very visible west of Austria and parts of Germany, IIRC.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 17:38:40 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 31 17:24:41 2010.

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Agreed. I haven't drank Coors Light since I was 22. Bud is "okay" if you want a light beer. Sometimes that's all I feel like.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 17:39:01 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 17:28:11 2010.

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Yes, I agree with that.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 17:42:54 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 17:26:18 2010.

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UK and France are sorta like putting your toes into the water rather than just jumping in. On the other side of the Alps, they don't even use American beer for wetting a paper towel to pick up a stain. :)

Seriously though ... the Czechs are the *true* braumeisters. If you happen to spot Budvar, or even better "Pilzen Urquelle" in your travels, grab some. You'll see why Anheuser's Busch is best kept under a skirt. Heh.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 18:07:00 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 17:42:54 2010.

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Originally you said "popular", not better. I can easily believe that the Czech beer is better, but I'm not so sure about popular. Especially now that Budweiser is owned by In-Bev. My guess is that the Czech beer is more popular in the Czech Republic, a couple few other countries, and that the American Budweiser is more popular in every other country in the world.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 18:11:31 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 18:07:00 2010.

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I meant "Yurp" all along. The stuff is very challenging to find here in the statesalthough our local distri-beers all have it. But in centrl and eastern "Yurp" Budvar is extremely popular. That's why it was an issue when the ersatz crap started showing up.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:19:10 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 10:10:04 2010.

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It's SO much better. I don't like beer except for certain German kinds. The real Budweiser is rather light by Central European standards but I found myself drinking it very often when I was there. I define it as "pleasant", unlike that undrinkable urine that is its American namesake.

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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 18:33:18 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:19:10 2010.

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The real Budweiser as far as 90% of the world (including me) is concerned is the American brand. And I do like beer and enjoy many different types. There's nothing wrong with the real Budweiser for what it is. I almost never drink it, but I'm not exactly averse to it. I've tried dozens of different beers and will usually try a new one if I find one in a bar on draft. At home I usually want something lighter and drink Miller Light.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 18:37:43 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 18:33:18 2010.

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The real Budweiser as far as 90% of the world (including me) is concerned is the American brand.

I agree with you. Most of the world thinks of the AB Bushweiser, not the other one.

And I do like beer and enjoy many different types. There's nothing wrong with the real Budweiser for what it is.

Of course there's not. And I also like many different types of beer, and when I want a beer with more taste, I do not drink Budweiser. But it's fine for what it is. It's just the liberal, love to bash anything American, or feel guilty for being Americans, that love to bash anything that is American.
Budweiser is what it is, it's a light tasting beer. It didn't get to be one of the most recognized and drank beer because it's utter crap. It's fine for a light beer.

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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:39:18 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 17:28:11 2010.

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If you ever go to Yurp and start drinking the real beer there, going back to American Bud will be like going back to a 56k modem or a dial telephone. It's like night and day.

What's unfortunate is that many American brewers have started making some decent beers that hold up well against their European counterparts but A-B and Miller have forever destroyed the reputation of American beer.
It's instinctive for many abroad to react to the mention of American beer in the same way as we would react to the mention of English beef.
The fault lies mainly in Prohibition when the good Central European-immigrant founded small breweries were wiped out while big companies like A-B were able to survive on other products until it was repealed. After that you had the McDonaldization of marketing and distribution along with stiff tariffs on imports, assuring that legalized piss like Bud, Schlitz and Miller would become America's most popular brands.
Fortunetely, American kids today are moving on to better products whether domestic or foreign.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 18:40:32 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:19:10 2010.

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unlike that undrinkable urine that is its American namesake.

It didn't get to be one of the most popular beers by being "undrinkable urine", if that was the case, it wouldn't be as popular as it is. No, it's not a "fancy" beer, or even a heavy full bodied beer, but it is what it is, a light beer, that many find acceptable.

I don't drink it often, usually only when I don't feel like something heavy, and just want a light beer without that real hoppy taste. Sometimes I am in the mood for that, sometimes I am not.

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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 18:41:14 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 18:37:43 2010.

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We agree. There's no reason to bash the American Budweiser just for being popular.

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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:41:52 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 18:33:18 2010.

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There's nothing wrong with the real Budweiser for what it is. I almost never drink it, but I'm not exactly averse to it.

The problem with American Bud is not that it tastes bad. It's that it tastes like nothing.
If you want disgusting-tasting, try Lone Star.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 18:43:30 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:39:18 2010.

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I drink mostly micro-brew types of beer, but every so often, for something light, Bud is fine. Bud certainly isn't a "good microbrew", but it's not "Keystone Light" either.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 18:45:02 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 18:41:14 2010.

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And that's the only reason people like SMAZ bash it, because it's a popular American beer. It's certainly not up to par to many foreign brews, or many of our great American micro brews...but it's not like it's Keystone Light either.

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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 18:47:10 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:39:18 2010.

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Eurosnob. You said that you don't even like beer very much. I've had beer from all over the world both here and in Europe. There are lots of microbrew beer in the US that are just as tasty as beer that you will find anywhere.

FWIW I usually drink Guinness when I'm out a bar, but I do try lots of different beers both foreign and domestic. I don't experiment with lots of pilsners like the two Bud's. I might try the Czech Bud if I had the chance, but it's not high on my list.

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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:47:20 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 18:40:32 2010.

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It didn't get to be one of the most popular beers by being "undrinkable urine",

Yes it did. The REAL good American beers were wiped out by Prohibition. All that was left after its repeal were brands with marketing muscle like Bud, Miller, etc. The gov't played along by imposing stiff tariffs on potential foreign competitors.

THAT is how it became popular. By forcing US consumers to choose between cat piss, horse piss and dog piss.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 18:47:25 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 18:37:43 2010.

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Most of the world thinks of the AB Bushweiser, not the other one.

LOL!!! How that came out as Bushweiser, I have no idea, obviously I meant Budweiser..... LMAO!!

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 18:47:55 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:41:52 2010.

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There is no beer anywhere that is (or was) ever more vile than BILLY BEER. :(



It's now an SAB/Miller plant.

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 18:49:40 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 18:47:25 2010.

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Damned libruls! :)

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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 18:49:41 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:41:52 2010.

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That "nothing" taste is pretty popular. And I disagree that it tastes like nothing though. It's a light pilsner. It is what it is. It's not that different from most other pilsners. They all kind of taste the same.

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 18:50:50 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 18:47:10 2010.

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There's some beers over here that kick Euro ass ... but none of them are Budweiser, Coors or Miller. :)

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 18:51:32 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:47:20 2010.

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CORRECT answer!

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 18:51:40 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:41:52 2010.

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The problem with American Bud is not that it tastes bad. It's that it tastes like nothing.
If you want disgusting-tasting, try Lone Star.


And that is not necessarily a "problem". Again, I like many other beers BETTER, however, sometime I don't want a beer with all that "taste", or a heavy foreign beer. There's nothing wrong with sometime just wanting something light. Especially when I have beer with food, I don't like something all that heavy, as it fills me up, and I don't enjoy my food then, as I feel bloated. Sometimes I am in the mood for "little taste that tastes good".
You have to remember also that we are different culturally in the US too than many other foreign countries. Some of those countries have more wine drinkers with meals, and they don't always drink beer with meals like many Americans do (Obviously that varies from country to country). Americans drink lighter beer because we drink differently than foreign countries, and they aren't "right", and we aren't "right", it's just the differences in culture.

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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 18:52:22 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:47:20 2010.

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I don't buy that. Bud doesn't taste that different than the foreign pilsners that I've had. It's an ok beer for what it is. Actually very good for what it is.

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 18:53:11 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 18:49:41 2010.

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They all trace their "heritage" back to "3.2 beer." So weak, wasn't considered alcoholic during prohibition. Some of them have come back up to 4.0 or so, but there's very few 8.0 beers outside of the microbrews.

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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:53:27 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 18:43:30 2010.

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I drink mostly micro-brew types of beer,

Good. But you probably acquired a better taste for beer by being exposed to better stuff by visiting Holland or Belgium. Most Americans blindly consume what is marketed to them. It's not their fault. This is the country that think of "Olive Garden" as fine Italian dining. Other countries market bullshit too.


but it's not "Keystone Light" either.




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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 18:55:14 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:53:27 2010.

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Love it! Cheap ale into the olive garden. :)

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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:58:33 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 18:47:10 2010.

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There are lots of microbrew beer in the US that are just as tasty as beer that you will find anywhere.

I agree. That's what I said.

FWIW I usually drink Guinness when I'm out a bar,

I don't like Irish beers. I only like dark German beer. That's why I rarely drink. I'm not a Eurosnob. That's like saying people are Italosnobs for not going to Olive Garden or Mexisnobs for not going to Taco Bell.

I might try the Czech Bud if I had the chance, but it's not high on my list.

You are not missing much. It's nothing special. It's just better than American Bud.


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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:58:45 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 18:50:50 2010.

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Agreed.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 18:59:15 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 18:47:10 2010.

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Eurosnob. You said that you don't even like beer very much. I've had beer from all over the world both here and in Europe. There are lots of microbrew beer in the US that are just as tasty as beer that you will find anywhere.

Thank you, I couldn't agree with you more, and you said it better than I could have said it. THEY aren't "right" any more than we are "right", it's all tastes and preferences. Many knock our micro brew beer just because it's "American".
Personally I don't like the taste in many foreign beers, especially Dutch and Belgium beers (Yes I know AB is now Belgium, but they are using an American recipe not a Belgium recipe), I just don't like that taste that beers like Heineken, Stella, Amstel, Grolsch, etc has. I can't pinpoint it, but I don't like the "extra" taste. I do like German beers, but there is also a certain taste there that I have to be in the mood for.
I much prefer many of our own American microbrew beers best.
And that is not "right or wrong", taste is personal. SMAZ is knocking Americans for having a different taste than he has. They are not "wrong" any more than he is "wrong". Personal taste can't be "wrong or right".

FWIW I usually drink Guinness when I'm out a bar, but I do try lots of different beers both foreign and domestic. I don't experiment with lots of pilsners like the two Bud's. I might try the Czech Bud if I had the chance, but it's not high on my list.

I also like trying different beers. Some I like, some I hate. But that's "my" taste. I did have a Czech beer a week or two ago that I liked, but I forgot the name. It tasted like an American clean tasting (as Smaz put it "taste of nothing"), but I like that sometimes. It had a little more "kick" than an American light beer, but it tasted somewhat similar.



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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:00:15 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 18:55:14 2010.

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HAH! You CAUGHT it!

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:01:06 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 18:52:22 2010.

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Agreed.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 19:01:46 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 18:51:40 2010.

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I agree. I don't always want something so heavy plus beer with more taste doesn't always go with different foods. American pilsners are light and safe.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:02:23 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 18:47:20 2010.

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Please. Stop with the anti-capitalistic propaganda. With all the choices out there, nobody is forced to pick between "cat piss or dog piss". There is PLENTY of choice at any bar or store I have bought beer at, people don't have to buy "Bud".

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:03:36 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 18:49:40 2010.

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I just figured out how that happened. I was "thinking" Anheuser BUSCH, and was typing fast, and that is where the "Bush" came from...lol.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:04:37 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 31 18:47:55 2010.

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LOL, my father saved a 6 pack of that because he thought it would be "worth" something one day. Personally I think he hid it far in the back of the cabinet because it tasted bad.....

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 19:05:30 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 31 18:49:41 2010.

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Again, totally agreed. Sometimes I FEEL like that "nothing" light pilsner taste. There's nothing wrong with that. It's a "light" beer, and doesn't claim to be anything but that.

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Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 31 19:07:09 2010, in response to Re: Anheuser-Busch loses ''Budweiser'' trade mark in EU, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 31 18:45:02 2010.

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No that's NOT why I bash it. I bash it for the OPPOSITE reason. I bash it because foreigners think that's how ALL US beers are when it's not true.
A-B ruined any chance for a good American beer to make it abroad.
Imagine what the reputation of good California wine would have been if Ripple or Thunderbird had been exported abroad and became synonymous with American "wine". That's what Bud did to America's reputation.

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