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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 19:21:42 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 18:53:01 2010. Mariah probably watches and weeps.Debbie was about her age now in those videos. Mariah started out clean and cute. Her natural vocal talents was all she and anybody asked. I was a fan. She started whoring up more and more as time went by (the opposite of what a great performer should do) to stay relevant and lost me (and others). Of course hearing the nonsense that comes out of her mouth during interviews didn't help. To be fair to Mariah, artists that reach stardom at a very young age like she did have it harder, and don't know what to do when the years pass them by. They are also more vulnerable to unscrupulous handlers. Blondie had a life before becoming popular. They didn't reach fame until after they were over 30. That probably helped them put the whole thing into context and just enjoy the ride. They still seem to have a blast today. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jul 29 19:32:29 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 18:50:27 2010. You sound like those dudes that be commenting on BIG & Pac songs on Youtube saying comments along the lines of... "God please take Justin Beiber and give us back 2pac or BIG" lol. I know you're statement about Britney & Miley is not in the same context but it reminded me of that lol. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 20:05:55 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jul 29 19:32:29 2010. Music (with some exceptions) already sucked by the time 2Pac and Biggie hit the scene. That stuff was forced.I was a kid growing up listening to Afrika Bambataaa. Unlike SWPLs, I didn't discover it later. I liked some of the commercial stuff of the time like Run DMC too. It was fun stuff. Genuine. Good times. It's how people must have felt like when hearing Elvis or Chuck Berry for the first time. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 20:25:55 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 29 06:06:39 2010. Correct. The origins of rap are traced to an apartment building on Sedwick Av. I forget the address. When it was sold a few years ago, there was an effort to list that place on the National Register of Historic Places. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 20:29:26 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 08:31:09 2010. How come you have not commented on the case in New Jersey where black kids beat a man from el Salvador to death, or the case on Staten Island where blacks beat a Mexican man.Could it just be that it's because the sub-thread is about the Origins of Rap/Hip-Hop and what were the first hits and crossover hits? |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jul 29 20:47:08 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 20:05:55 2010. It's how people must have felt like when hearing Elvis or Chuck Berry for the first time.Heh, reminds me of when 50 Cent first came out in the early 2000s, that dude is what got me into hip hop, I remeber when I bought the "Get rich or Die Trying" album downtown Brooklyn lol. It was awsome, on Hot 97 they played mostly every song on the album, my uucle didn't even have to take the wrapper off of his copy of the album because they played mostly every song off of it on the radio lol. I happen to be living in Queens when his second album came out, everybody was selling that album on bootleg and blasting the song "Piggy Bank" on the shopping strip on Jamaica Ave near 165th street. I pass though that area when I'm busfanning from time to time and I have never seen anything like that since 05. Yes, people still sell bootleg CD there, but when the The Masscure came out all those bootlegers stepped there game up trying to sell that CD lol. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 20:53:12 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jul 29 20:47:08 2010. That's not the same though. 50 cent was a new artist, but he didn't invent a whole new style of music. When I was 12 rap didn't exist (at least where I was, but by the time I was 13 it was everywhere. It's really special to be witness to such a cultural revolution.Not everybody liked it though. Most white boys back then hated rap for some reason. And disco. Music was more segregated than now to some extent. Even on the radio. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 21:02:25 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Easy on Wed Jul 28 21:53:02 2010. You are correct that it's unrelated to the American evolution and roots of that sound. However if Adriano Celentano had been an American, history may have been different. He is essentially mocking foreign (to Italians) pop music by purposely speaking in American-sounding gibberish in that clip and it's hilarious. Celentano was always ahead of his time in the entertainment arena. He's a legend in Italy.Southern Italy has an ancient hip hop-sounding folk music called "tammurriata". It's actually African sounding. It represents women fighting for their man with knives. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 21:07:15 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 19:14:18 2010. They were already rapping at the Queensbridge and Ravenswood Projects when I was a kid in the 70's. This may have been after it had already been popularized in the Bronx earlier in the 70's but Queens was moving in parallel with the evolution of the sound and played a major effort during its early days. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:09:34 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 21:02:25 2010. It sounds middle eastern/Mediterranean/Greek/African/generic to me. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:10:00 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 21:07:15 2010. The bridge is over. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 21:12:11 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jul 29 20:47:08 2010. That's nothing compared to what happened when Eminem blew up. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:16:09 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 21:12:11 2010. Eminem was the biggest thing to hit rap since rap first hit the radio, for obvious reasons. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 21:17:51 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 21:07:15 2010. Queens mostly copied The Bronx until Run-DMC came out. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 21:21:22 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:10:00 2010. Queensbridge hasn't made a quality album since The War Report, or Stillmatic if you want to push it... |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 21:22:34 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 16:37:20 2010. Our people did invent polka if that makes you feel better.OLL RAIGTH!!! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 21:26:46 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:16:09 2010. Eminem was the biggest thing to hit rap since rap first hit the radio, for obvious reasons.Yes, K-Rock played him while rap stations wouldn't. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 21:29:00 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:09:34 2010. My point is that what may somewhat sound like hip-hop has various cultural origins. The Bronx connection is widely accepted as the birth of American rap but there is no "world inventor" of that kind of sound and they have all influenced each other to a certain degree over the centuries. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:33:52 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 21:17:51 2010. I don't know. I think that it sounded different. Marley Marl was from Queens right? MC Shan? The Juice Crew? Roxanne Shante? I think that Queens had a somewhat smoother sound. That changed with Run-DMC and LL Cool J. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:34:53 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 21:22:34 2010. lol. Some people just a little older than us were really into polka. It lasted longer than people think as popular music. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:36:35 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 21:26:46 2010. He was played on urban stations in LA. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 21:37:06 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 21:21:22 2010. That's because rap is now exhausted.Asking people in the Bridge or anywhere else to make quality rap is like asking their residents of the 1970's to make quality rockabilly or doo-wop. The good sounds nowadays come out of the Brazilian favelas. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:39:21 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 21:29:00 2010. I would say that music in the "civilized" world (around the Mediterranean) was very similar long ago and still sounds similar today. But I think that historical aside, the immdeiate origins for rap are in 1950's and 60's Jamaica. For such a little place Jamaica has been extremely influential in music. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 21:41:19 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:36:35 2010. I can't believe that's the case for his first album.Most of his success comes from modern rock format stations, picking up where Limp Bizkit left off. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:41:30 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 21:37:06 2010. I like some of today's rap. Drake, TI, and Lil Wayne. Some others are ok. But if I didn't have teenage kids I wouldn't know much about them. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 21:42:16 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:16:09 2010. A lot of people just couldn't accept that a white guy from a trailer park in Detroit was better than the practically every black rapper out there at the time, and I think that BET still doesn't play Eminem's videos although I don't watch that garbage. That being said I think that Eminem is the greatest rapper alive despite the amount of times Lil Wayne and Jay-Z will try to give themselves the title. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:44:15 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 21:41:19 2010. I can agree with that. He picked up where they left off, but brought many more fans that hadn't been into rap. I liked his "Dear Stan" song. Maybe a few others. Lose Yourself or whatever it was called. But I was never that into his music. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 21:46:37 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 29 21:37:06 2010. Rappers just don't care about their music as much as record sales no more since online piracy is causing the industry to decline. Quality music can only be found on mixtapes where rappers don't really care about record sales. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:47:51 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 21:42:16 2010. The Beav doesn't do it for me. I'd rank every living Wu Tang member ahead of him along with JayZee, Nas, Rakim, Ice Cube, Souljaboy Tellem, 50 cent, Flo Rida, lots more. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 21:49:28 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:47:51 2010. JayZeeObama talked about him today on The View. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 21:50:03 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 15:17:49 2010. I wouldn't approve of such a hate crime regardless of the ethnicity the party committing the crime is. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 21:53:59 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:44:15 2010. I can't consider Eminem a rapper, because of his roots in modern rock format.btw- Have you noticed he does not feud with black rappers? He has to pick on Insane Clown Posse. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 21:54:20 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:47:51 2010. You can't deny his perfect combination lyrical skill and flow though. The only rapper I can think of that matches up to Eminem's rapping capability is Big L. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jul 29 21:54:56 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 21:53:59 2010. What about Ja Rule or Royce da 5'9"? |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:55:48 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 21:53:59 2010. And Whitey Ford whatever from that Jump Around group. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jul 29 21:59:13 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 21:44:15 2010. My Favorite songs from him was, Toy Soldiers, Love the way you lie, Not Afaid, Go to Sleep etc, I love how most of his songs are about issues in his life rather rapping about how much money he has and how many woman he slept with or how many cars he drives etc, hes the closest thing today to 2pac IMO. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jul 29 22:02:32 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 21:53:59 2010. Eminem does feud with black rappers, he feuded with Ja Rule and Nick Cannon. Eminem pretty much ended Ja rule career with his version of the Hail Mary song. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 22:04:11 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jul 29 22:02:32 2010. Well I guess he now feels comfortable feuding with black rappers. At first, he targeted ICP, gays, and his mother. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 22:06:08 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jul 29 22:02:32 2010. I thought that 50 ended his career?Either way I haven't heard an eminem song on the radio in a while. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 22:07:18 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 22:04:11 2010. Also Vanilla Ice and Everlast. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 22:12:19 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 22:07:18 2010. Remember Bubba Sparx? |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 22:13:08 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 22:12:19 2010. lol. Yeah. Is he from Tampa? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 22:14:52 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 22:13:08 2010. not sure, but I remember he was a big deal for a minute. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 22:17:27 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 22:14:52 2010. So was west coast rap. I can't even think of a west coast rapper under 30. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 30 04:53:56 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 15:06:23 2010. TYPICAL TROLLISH DEFLECTION. You never disappoint. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 30 04:54:31 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 15:17:49 2010. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 30 04:56:26 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 15:06:23 2010. yawn |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 30 05:50:07 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 15:44:34 2010. and....You were like 8 y/o, right? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 30 05:52:19 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 29 16:05:13 2010. >>>...only Italians could dance that good....<<<HAHAHAHAH |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 30 05:56:28 2010, in response to Re: Black Teen Attacks White Man for Listening to Hip Hop Music, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 29 16:37:20 2010. FACTS |
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