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The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 26 15:27:15 2010

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703724104575379630952309408.html

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 26 15:34:47 2010, in response to The Myth of White Privilege, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 26 15:27:15 2010.

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Truth, but conservative Republicans have been saying this for years. Nice of Mr. Webb to get on board.

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LINKED Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 26 15:56:13 2010, in response to The Myth of White Privilege, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 26 15:27:15 2010.

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703724104575379630952309408.html

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 26 15:56:35 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 26 15:34:47 2010.

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Yes, it is nice.

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jul 26 16:18:17 2010, in response to The Myth of White Privilege, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 26 15:27:15 2010.

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not a myth

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 26 16:33:20 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jul 26 16:18:17 2010.

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Yeah, it is. When it's mocked on SNL, it ceases being serious:




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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jul 26 16:56:21 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 26 16:33:20 2010.

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sorry i dissagree

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jul 26 17:26:19 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jul 26 16:18:17 2010.

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Remember now, Selkirk defended you several weeks ago!

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jul 26 17:30:34 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jul 26 17:26:19 2010.

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good for him !

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jul 26 17:32:40 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jul 26 17:30:34 2010.

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Yes, but Selkirk is WHITE!

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jul 26 17:58:43 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jul 26 17:32:40 2010.

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i said he is a good man Mr Mabstoa
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is that ok with you

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jul 26 19:16:36 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jul 26 17:58:43 2010.

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Yes, but its a contradiction that his a good man and that you believe its a myth of White Man privilege.
Its like I said then, it all boils down to white or black in the end!

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 26 19:28:09 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jul 26 19:16:36 2010.

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But white people do end up catching less shit ... maybe he's right.



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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jul 26 22:40:11 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 26 19:28:09 2010.

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White guilt on your part.
Do you also feel guilty that you have more than poor blacks?
Do you think Blacks richer than you feel bad for you?

Waiting for unfunny linked picture now.

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Re: LINKED Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 26 23:08:56 2010, in response to LINKED Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 26 15:56:13 2010.

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I believe that qualified race and gender and unqualified "legacy admissions" should be dropped as criteria for affirmative action in college.

The criteria should be "first generation to go to college". Once made into law, institutions that continue with race, gender and "rich daddies" as part of their admission criteria would lose access to all federal funding and aid programs.

Diability and veteran based affirmative action would remain.

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 26 23:34:07 2010, in response to The Myth of White Privilege, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 26 15:27:15 2010.

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Those who came to this country in recent decades from Asia, Latin America and Africa did not suffer discrimination from our government, and in fact have frequently been the beneficiaries of special government programs. The same cannot be said of many hard-working white Americans, including those whose roots in America go back more than 200 years.

So true.

Everyone is exploiting black suffering in America for their own benefit.

That's why you have to laugh at courses like "Black and Latino Studies" at Hunter College.

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 26 23:48:19 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jul 26 22:40:11 2010.

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Heh. Wow ... sure sounds like somebody's got a bug up their ass ... ah well ... your wish is my command. :)



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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jul 27 04:28:09 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 26 16:33:20 2010.

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ROFLMAO

This needs to be cross-posted to BusChat for the bus scene.

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 27 12:04:50 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jul 27 04:28:09 2010.

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Perhaps the best episode ever. I believe it aired in 1985 when Murphy was guest hosting to hype the release of Best Defense. It also included this gem:



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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Easy on Tue Jul 27 21:49:55 2010, in response to The Myth of White Privilege, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 26 15:27:15 2010.

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Virginia NAACP response from King Salim Khalfani. SMH on some parts of his response.



July 26, 2010

The Honorable Jim Webb, Senator
United States Senate
225 Russell Building
Washington, D.C. 20510

Re: Op-Ed Piece in the WSJ on the Myth of White Privilege!

Dear Senator Webb:

On behalf of the Virginia State Conference NAACP, its' over 100-Adult Branches, College Chapters & Youth Councils we greet you as a fellow Life Member of our Association as we commemorate our 75th Anniversary the Diamond Jubilee at our State Convention, October 29-31, 2010 in the place of our founding Roanoke, Virginia. Senator Webb, we have read your piece entitled, "Diversity & the Myth of White Privilege." We vehemently disagree with your analysis and wonder if serving in the elite, rich United States Senate has skewed your vision of the world in which we live. Your opponent then and coming George Allen would not have had the gall to write about the "myth of white privilege" even though I am sure he feels that way. In African culture, it is said, when people show & tell you who they are. Believe them!" Your written word has spoken volumes for your belief system.

It appears that you and U.S. Senate candidate Rand Paul are kith and kin. Do you really believe that affirmative action has hurt white, Anglo-Saxon Protestants or are you pandering to the divisive, conservative, Tea Bagger types whose votes you will need in 2012? The true beneficiaries of affirmative action programs are white, Anglo-Saxon women...overwhelmingly. If a white, republican, ultra-right winger, or Rush, Beck or O'Reilly had written or spoken it, the world would have known about it. But, you have written it and it did not go unnoticed but it did not garner the attention that it should have. After the race baiting of the past week concerning the U.S.D.A. and the right-wing blogger who doctored the tape and the statistics that show the African (Black) community's suffering disproportionately during this economic depression, one would think that you would have more sensitivity than to pen that science fiction. Have you advocated for the funding for the long overdue settlement for the Black farmers? John Boyd and the farmers need some help.

You have given cover & solace to those "who want to take their country back (from whom?), who want to reload not regroup, who think it is ok to spit on and use racial epithets against African members of the House of Representatives. Senator Webb, we need to meet to discuss your philosophy and other relevant issues like: bailouts for the rich and sellouts for taxpayers, the unethical profits of the oil companies at the expense of citizens, the Iraq & Afghanistan wars that are killing our soldiers and the economy, the outsourcing of jobs to India, China & Brazil at the expense of U.S. workers and a plethora of other life and death issues that you could have championed in the Wall Street Journal. Oh, did I forget...JOBS, JOBS, and more JOBS for the citizens of this country!

Does your colleague, Junior Senator Mark Warner concur with your belief? We will ask him as well. Well, fellow member of the NAACP, we look forward to your timely response and we can't wait to meet you!

Sincerely,


King Salim Khalfani
Executive Director

CC: Senator Mark Warner



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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 27 23:59:37 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 26 23:48:19 2010.

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LOL

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Jul 28 01:36:45 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 27 23:59:37 2010.

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I didn't get it, so since you laughed can you explain it to me?
And since you and Selkirk are such good friends did you approve of his child porn pic he posted in here?
I've always known for you to be a lazy good for nothing but child porn?
Not Salaam............

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 28 01:46:02 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Jul 28 01:36:45 2010.

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Child porn? Heh. I can understand Olog trolling ... oh wait.

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Jul 28 01:54:06 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 28 01:46:02 2010.

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I figure a America hater like Salaam who is against gay marriage wouldn't want anything to do with a , ahem, "guy who likes little kids".
Are you a member of NAMBLA too?

LOL!

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 28 02:13:53 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Jul 28 01:54:06 2010.

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Heh. Successful troll is successful! You're sure giving Olog a run for his money. :)



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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Jul 28 02:47:04 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 28 02:13:53 2010.

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I don't get the connection of that picture with your statement, but that ain't nothing new!

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 28 02:49:09 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Jul 28 02:47:04 2010.

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That's OK ... unlike most of your compatriots, YOU can blame it on those bus fumes. :)

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Jul 28 03:07:18 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 28 02:49:09 2010.

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Nah, we're 100% hybrid, no more fumes!

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 28 03:09:19 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Jul 28 03:07:18 2010.

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You just blew your excuse. :)

In all seriousness, truce or troll ...

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 28 03:23:39 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 28 03:09:19 2010.

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Well, you did post kiddie porn a few days ago.



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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 28 03:30:59 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 28 03:23:39 2010.

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OK ... this is getting stupid.

Child porn is the depiction of children engaged in sexual acts. I've seen the real thing and assisted in both the prosecution of the guilty through computer forensics, and in one case acted on behalf of an innocent victim. This place is watched by real cops ... trust me, if it came anywhere near meeting the definition, I wouldn't be here now.

That all said, it was parody. "Child porn" requires the depiction of genitalia. There wasn't any. And secondly, it was a flipping joke. If anyone besides Olog was offended, my sincere apologies. But cut the crap.

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 28 03:34:15 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 28 03:30:59 2010.

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"Child porn" requires the depiction of genitalia

No it doesn't.

You're lucky to be a free man.



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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 28 03:38:48 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 28 03:34:15 2010.

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FALSE!

Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition, 535 U.S. 234 (2002).

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 28 03:42:23 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 28 03:34:15 2010.

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Another graduate of the "School of Conservative Sduhdies." Cool ...

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 28 03:48:39 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 28 03:42:23 2010.

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It has nothing to do with "Conservative". You live in a world of Fox News at that's it. You can't get beyond it.



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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 28 03:58:17 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 28 03:42:23 2010.

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Do you really think the absence of genitalia is all it takes to disqualify something from being kiddie porn?

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 28 04:06:38 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 28 03:58:17 2010.

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Do you think that a line drawing depicting stupidity constitutes CP? Sorry guy, but I;m floored by just how stupid people have gotten lately from those AM radio waves. :(

But if you and Olog and Mabstoa are gonna keep after it, enjoy living with the mindset you live in ... I'm done with this. And the answer is quite clear that the picture was not of "sexual depiction" and all you three are actually demonstrating is that you're perverts for taking it the way you did.

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 28 04:17:03 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 28 04:06:38 2010.

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Sorry guy, but I;m floored by just how stupid people have gotten lately from those AM radio waves. :(

There you go again with the "AM radio" stuff.

Fox. Faux. AM. Beck. None of it has anything to do with your statement regarding the absence of genitalia.


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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 28 08:39:53 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jul 26 16:18:17 2010.

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Agreed....Mr. Webb is trying to make a case that there are poor Whites in our society, past and present, and that they are the "forgotten" ones. I don't disagree with him on that premise at all, but at the same time, poor Whites in this country have not gone through the same "shoes" of discrimination as minorities have in this country.

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 28 08:44:38 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 26 23:34:07 2010.

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"That's why you have to laugh at courses like "Black and Latino Studies" at Hunter College."

Why would YOU have to laugh at it? any reason for it? Should we now laugh at Western European history courses as well? why not call it World studies to satisfy Luchie then...right?

"Everyone is exploiting black suffering in America for their own benefit."

Maybe it should not of happened in the 1st place, then there would be no need to exploit...right Luchie? eh?


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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 28 08:47:14 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 28 08:39:53 2010.

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Agreed....Mr. Webb is trying to make a case that there are poor Whites in our society, past and present, and that they are the "forgotten" ones. I don't disagree with him on that premise at all, but at the same time, poor Whites in this country have not gone through the same "shoes" of discrimination as minorities have in this country.


T*R*U*T*H


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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 28 09:12:08 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 28 08:44:38 2010.

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Because Latinos are wrong for trying to connect themselves to black suffering in the US. They have NOTHING to do with black history, therefore the course at Hunter is stupid.

You do realize it's ONE COURSE, don't you?

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Jul 28 10:24:35 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 28 03:09:19 2010.

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truce

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Jul 28 10:44:50 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 28 03:30:59 2010.

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This place is watched by real cops...

Not to be trite re. the allegations within this thread, I was accused of being Un-American this week. I was also accused of being lazy and ignorant. Someone called me a moron and something about chief pilots. If I am picked up and whisked away never to be heard from again you'll know why.

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 28 10:46:01 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by cortelyounext on Wed Jul 28 10:44:50 2010.

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I was accused of being Un-American this week. I was also accused of being lazy and ignorant. Someone called me a moron and something about chief pilots. If I am picked up and whisked away never to be heard from again you'll know why.

Still not going to comment on the Airbus crash in Pakistan?

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Jul 28 10:47:50 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 28 10:46:01 2010.

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No

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Jul 28 10:48:42 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 28 10:46:01 2010.

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Maybe

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 28 11:39:02 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Jul 28 01:54:06 2010.

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oh STFU

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Jul 28 11:42:54 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 28 11:39:02 2010.

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Re: The Myth of White Privilege

Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 28 11:50:49 2010, in response to Re: The Myth of White Privilege, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 28 09:12:08 2010.

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"Because Latinos are wrong for trying to connect themselves to black suffering in the US. They have NOTHING to do with black history, therefore the course at Hunter is stupid."

The last time I heard......those "studies" involve more than just history but also culture. And as for you saying Hispanics and Blacks are not intertwinded is rather ludicrous at best.


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