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Posted by bmtlines on Tue Mar 9 09:13:59 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by rbseabeach on Mon Mar 8 19:31:09 2010. Maybe we should never have built the new terminal at Stillwell.That new terminal is an abomination. It is downright FUGLY. They could and should have fully restored the old one. |
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Posted by bmtlines on Tue Mar 9 09:24:50 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day :-\, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Mar 9 07:57:04 2010. Like the old circus sideshows. I had occasion to go to this one after a photo shoot...This one has an electric chair - they ask a subject from the audience sit, charge it up and light a torch from her tongue. And yes its quite real - the "subject" was a friend I entered with and she told me how it felt. Then there is a girl that lays down on a bed of nails while selected members of the audience then stand on her.. She also eats glass There is a sword swallowing and fire eating act too Stuff like that |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 9 09:25:22 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 21:38:03 2010. So? We had anarchist extremists trying to kill us. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 11:56:49 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 21:03:55 2010. absoultely. Like Times Squarwe it was a hell hole. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 12:03:32 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 9 08:15:03 2010. May 29th !! LOL!!!Believe it or not the roudy urban youth was not the issue any more it was the bed head Yuppie, Hipster, artist types that started to come down around 2004. THey didn't even like all the sausage! |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 12:04:41 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by bmtlines on Tue Mar 9 09:13:59 2010. LMAO! Well you have your opinion and I have mine. That terminal is awesome. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 12:05:38 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day :-\, posted by bmtlines on Tue Mar 9 09:24:50 2010. I luv sword swallowers LOL!! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 15:03:33 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Mar 9 07:59:06 2010. 8th Ave used to be a lot worse than it is now. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 15:05:10 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 9 08:12:15 2010. AND as I said:yeah, in these times we have Muslim extremists trying to kill us. We didn't have that in the days of the real Luna Park. What is it you don't understand? Muslims weren't trying to kill us back then, who would care if a park was decorated like that? WHAT is your point of reposting the photos we saw already? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 15:11:25 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by bmtlines on Tue Mar 9 09:13:59 2010. The old terminal was a piece of garbage. They took the best part of the old terminal, the facade, and restored it, and built a new beautiful terminal around it. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 15:12:12 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 9 09:25:22 2010. What does anarchist decoration look like? |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 15:14:10 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 15:11:25 2010. Now how come we can see it the same way and others see it totally different? I actually read that it was the top terminal in the US. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 9 15:18:31 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 15:05:10 2010. WHAT is your point of reposting the photos we saw already?What was the point in saying Muslim extremists are trying to kill us today? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 9 15:21:33 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 15:12:12 2010. What does anarchist decoration look like?
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 15:26:40 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 15:03:33 2010. True! You know what, I am going to get killed again over this but WTF!Times Square and CI are being reclaimed thanks to Rudy. I could care less what others say about it. They are entitled to their opinions and I am entitled to mine. Charles Gargano of the Empire State Development Corp wanted to redevelop 42nd Street going back to 1980! Even after Sfacheem became governor in 1982. But it stalled for years. Why? BECAUSE OF THE ADULT BUSINESSES. Before they were able to begin the transformation and reconstruction, the Adult businesses had to go. Enter Rudy!! after a big fight he succeeded and that started the Times Square Boom! In addition, he just happened to take care of the out of control crime as well!!! This brought tourists and the rest is history. We were able to recover much quicker after 9/11 because of this. Now onto CI. Howard Golden (Brooklyn BP before 2001) wanted an amature Sportplex to rise where MCU stadium is. Horrace Bullard a black property owner wanted to develop a new Steeplechase. When the city ran out of patience with him... you guessed it out comes the rasce card. This delayed anything in CI for years. Rudy had enough and pushed for the minor league stadium which opened in 2001. Now with a new stadium, families were attracted to the area. THey stayed around after the gsmes and spent mopney in the amusement area, the MTA noticed and the Stillwell project after years on the back burner was now front and center. Now all of a sudden artists, hipsters, and families started to come down to CI and PEOPLE Noticed. As a result the zoning change went through, NYC purchased the land from Thor and CI will be better than it ever was. All thanks to Rudy. This is my opinion based on the facts I have about the issue. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 15:29:26 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 9 15:18:31 2010. People back then adored Arabic architecture, etc. Today, it wouldn't go over so well. They didn't have Muslim extremists trying to kill us back then. You can repost the photos now. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 15:31:20 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 15:14:10 2010. Class act job of preserving the past, and bringing a world class station to the area at the same time. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 15:35:13 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 15:31:20 2010. ABSOLUTELY!!!! And let's not forget the new station for the NYPD just to add even more comfort and safety to patrons. I went there two months ago @ 12:30 AM to the Dunkin Donuts. I did not have a care in the world. I felt totally safe. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 15:35:22 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 9 15:21:33 2010. They used to put that on amusement parks? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 9 16:28:51 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 15:26:40 2010. The adult businesses had already been shut down by the early 90's before Rudy had even taken office. That's not an opinion. That a fact. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 9 16:31:39 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 15:29:26 2010. You can repost the photos now.Will do... Pre-9/11 park  Post 9/11 park  |
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Posted by bmtlines on Tue Mar 9 16:37:22 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 15:35:13 2010. And let's not forget the new station for the NYPD just to add even more comfort and safety to patrons.So that they can harass photographers - lots of people were stopped from taking pictures at Coney Island because of the increased police presence there. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 16:42:02 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 9 16:28:51 2010. Whatever you can rewrite anythng you like but the FACT of the matter is the law went into effect in 1995 and it was RUDY that pushed it through and got it done. Remember the DEMS were not going to touch this issue based on ideology. I only wish I could find the data and link it for you. I'm sure that is the only way you will beleive me. But in any event as an aside... lets just say that I happened to find my way into some of these establishments back then and the "Employees" I have spoken to were over the top pissed at Rudy, this is more first hand proof. I was a little pissed as well because I had to go further to stumble into the new establishments LOL. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 16:49:49 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by bmtlines on Tue Mar 9 16:37:22 2010. No they are there for PUBLIC safety. If they were not needed then they would not be there. |
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Posted by bmtlines on Tue Mar 9 16:53:00 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 16:49:49 2010. I feel SAFER without cops around! |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 16:58:11 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by bmtlines on Tue Mar 9 16:53:00 2010. LOL it does not surprise me. Let's hope you never need one. |
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Posted by bmtlines on Tue Mar 9 17:01:25 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 15:11:25 2010. I prefer 18th - 19th Century architecture to the crap that followed so to each their own. I was not talking about leaving the terminal as-is but rather a full restoration to its 1920's appearance. I am a purist so the mixture of old and new is sacrilege :) |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 17:05:39 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by bmtlines on Tue Mar 9 17:01:25 2010. Ok. The 18th & 19th Century look probably would have turned out great as well. However, I'm sure they had reasons why they chose to do it this way.What is your opinion on the rebuilding of the WTC?? |
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Posted by bmtlines on Tue Mar 9 17:06:33 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 17:05:39 2010. If I had my druthers the WTC would never had been built in the first place. Hudson Terminal would still be there :) |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 17:19:07 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by bmtlines on Tue Mar 9 17:06:33 2010. Ok, but what is your opinion about what to do at the WTC site?? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Mar 9 18:44:20 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 16:58:11 2010. And if he needs one, one just happens to be passing by. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Mar 9 19:13:56 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 17:19:07 2010. I would sell it and let the developers do whatever they felt the market demanded - if that meant smaller office towers so be it. I am not in favor of government sponsored development particularly with respect to real estate (Port Authority = government). By the way this is the real reason I object to the development of Coney Island the way it is being handled. The extent of government's involvement should be zoning - the city should not own or in any way involve itself in commercial real estate or entertainment. I do not believe in government ownership or construction of sports stadiums, etc. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 19:16:13 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by BMTLines on Tue Mar 9 19:13:56 2010. ok, but you said you were a purist. I would liek to see them rebuild the WTC bigger and better. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 19:21:29 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by BMTLines on Tue Mar 9 19:13:56 2010. CI wa son the cusp of being developped by two private firms. Thor & Taconic. Thor bought the land 4 years ago. Thor also wanted it to be a year round venue. They proposed Time-shares, hotels, and high end housing to off set the cost of the development and make it economically viable. BUT..... the community objected and did not want THose people (I.E. high end) in CI. They were also afraid that if a portion of the amusement district was developped as non-amusement, after a zoning change, then in the future the amusement district could concenivably shrink until it is gone. THis is why NYC had to set in after the new zoning was approved. NYC will keep it an amusement area. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Mar 9 19:23:10 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 19:16:13 2010. That means I would rebuild Hudson Terminal and radio row :)Seriously I'd like to see the WTC rebuilt as it was but not as a government development. The city should just zone the area for tall buildings but let market forces drive what actually gets built. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 19:27:16 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by BMTLines on Tue Mar 9 19:23:10 2010. Fair enough. But the isue is that NYC has a very high inventory of non class A office space. Class A offers all modern amenities. It also takes time to build. By building now when construction costs are lower and interest rates ar elower, we will be ready when the economy comes back and there is demand for new class A space in the financial capital of the world. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 9 20:51:19 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by rbseabeach on Tue Mar 9 16:42:02 2010. He is not rewriting anything. Either the adult businesses were all closed by 1994 when Rudy took office or they weren't. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 9 20:53:18 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by bmtlines on Tue Mar 9 17:01:25 2010. I disagree. Other than the facade, the old terminal was bland, cavernous and ugly. The tracks were high up in the air but the headhouse was only one story: incongruous. On track level, the station looked like any other elevated station only twice as wide. Big deal. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 9 20:54:58 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by BMTLines on Tue Mar 9 19:23:10 2010. I disagree. The symbolism justifies community action. I agree that the complex should be privatized once practical. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Mar 9 20:57:56 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 9 20:54:58 2010. Symbolism does not justify socialism |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 9 20:58:03 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 15:31:20 2010. IAWTP. I actually enjoy the synchronicity of old and new. It's the way a real city is built, not by clinging to the past but not by plowing it over either. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 9 20:58:59 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 15:35:22 2010. No, they used to put that on the 8th Avenue Express. :-) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 9 21:16:37 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by BMTLines on Tue Mar 9 20:57:56 2010. Sure it does. Why shouldn't the government pay to repair the damage from an act of war against the government? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 22:06:17 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 9 16:31:39 2010. 
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Mar 9 22:17:13 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 22:06:17 2010. I wonder that would look in color film? |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Mar 10 00:00:03 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 19:28:01 2010. The one thing I'd change about the Cyclone would be the trains.They should use lighter trains and shorter cars [ie: 4-car {3 seats per} or 6-car {2 seats per} trains than 3-car {4 seats per} trains] And headrests to prevent whiplashes. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Mar 10 00:03:15 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 9 15:11:25 2010. I agree, I don't mind the current station. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Mar 10 00:06:31 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by BMTLines on Tue Mar 9 19:13:56 2010. I do agree with you about how the government should not be involved in the real estate area. If we had owners like owners of the Las Vegas hotels, they would get something built on that site and within the deadline. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Mar 10 00:09:23 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 9 21:16:37 2010. The only thing I wished could've happened is if the families were able to sue Saudi Arabia like $1 trillion for the damages. That could've gone a long way to paying everyone fairly. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Mar 10 00:12:38 2010, in response to Re: Luna Park to open by Memorial Day!!, posted by rbseabeach on Mon Mar 8 19:33:22 2010. Well that's it, if people wants to go somewhere for real rides, it would be to Six Flags and such. Astroland had dark rides and some 'flat rides'. These would be the 'lesser attractions' at 6 Flags.The big attractions are roller coasters and sadly Astroland had only the Cyclone and a kiddie coaster. Hopefully the new developers would put stuff there that's worth riding. |
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