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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Nov 23 18:16:00 2009, in response to MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 23 17:14:21 2009. Hey, a very good friend of mine, the guy who has the season seats next to mine at Saratoga Race Track is a columnist for MSNBC.com. But he isn't a political columnist he's a horse racing columnist. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Nov 23 18:22:57 2009, in response to Re: MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Nov 23 17:52:30 2009. Spin it any way you want---you just can't spin it to be positive. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Nov 23 18:25:59 2009, in response to Re: MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Nov 23 17:52:30 2009. Arabs are only 0.5% of the US population. But there is a Muslim, Fareed Zakaria, on CNN. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 18:32:51 2009, in response to Re: MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Nov 23 18:16:00 2009. Heh. They ALL are. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 18:34:28 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 17:07:51 2009. Now where in that article is your claim that "A large part of Fox's audience believes everything they say. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 18:35:14 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 17:07:51 2009. Nowhere in that article is your claim that "A large part of Fox's audience believes everything they say" supported. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 18:35:52 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 17:11:20 2009. Sorry, this page has moved or does not exist Some possible causes for this error message: * The site or bookmark used to get here needs to be updated * The site may be down or temporarily overloaded by visitors * The URL may have a typing error Having trouble finding something? Try our site map. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 18:38:56 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 18:35:14 2009. Nowhere in that article is your claim that "A large part of Fox's audience believes everything they say" supported.Fox News = Bad Information Most Fox Viewers = Misinformed (as the survey demonstrates) Most Fox Viewers = Believe everything Fox News says |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 18:41:45 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 18:34:28 2009. This survey is six years old:http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/international_security_bt/102.php?nid=&id=&pnt=102&lb=brusc This survey is very recent, but it's an NBC/Wall Street Journal (Rupert) poll: NBC/Wall Street Journal poll (pdf) Here are the results broken out by which news sources the respondents favored: On Health Care Reform, Those Who Believe That It Will… MSNBC/CNN Viewers Fox News Viewers Give Coverage To Illegal Immigrants: 41% 72% Lead To A Government Takeover: 39% 79% Pay For Abortions: 40% 69% Stop Care To The Elderly: 30% 75% Let me repeat: These are statements that are known to be untrue, yet Fox News viewers believe them in overwhelming numbers. It’s bad enough that approximately 40% of MSNBC/CNN viewers believe these myths, but clearly Fox is producing an audience of vastly misinformed, cultural illiterates. The problem with having a national news organization that is polluting the population with lies about critical public issues is that it makes democracy impossible. And that, of course, may be the goal of Fox and its corporate overseers. Democracy is such a messy affair, what with all the people voting and stuff. If your objective is to manipulate government, you can’t get very far if voters are actually familiar with the issues and are capable of making sound judgments. So Fox News found it necessary to invent a platform of fake agendas to create fear and then purposefully indoctrinate their predominantly Republican and southern viewers to believe in them. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 18:42:50 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 18:35:52 2009. let's try this one. It's about the same University of Maryland's Program on International Policy Attitudes surveyLink This was widely reported at the time in almost media. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 18:44:03 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 18:38:56 2009. I put up some data ... see other thread. You are correct, and I've got da PROFF. :) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 18:44:56 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 18:44:03 2009. Thanks. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 18:52:00 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 18:41:45 2009. This survey is very recent, but it's an NBC/Wall Street Journal (Rupert) poll:NBC/Wall Street Journal poll (pdf) Here are the results broken out by which news sources the respondents favored: On Health Care Reform, Those Who Believe That It Will… MSNBC/CNN Viewers Fox News Viewers Give Coverage To Illegal Immigrants: 41% 72% Lead To A Government Takeover: 39% 79% Pay For Abortions: 40% 69% Stop Care To The Elderly: 30% 75% What is this proving? Again, it does NOT prove that "most fox views believe everything fox tells them". Of COURSE, since Fox's viewership is much more conservative, and CNN and especially MSNBC is more liberal, OBVIOUSLY, the questions of the more conservative FOx Viewers will be higher than those of the more liberal MSNBC's in reference to those questions. And then of course, it's an "NBC poll"....enough said....remember, you pointed out "Rasmuessen" just an hour or so ago, which proves you only like the polls or will push the polls of those groups that support what you want to hear. Perfect example! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 18:55:00 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 18:38:56 2009. LOL, pull at some more straws, and skew some more stuff they way you want it to come out.And the bad information is because you don't like what it says. And just because MSNBC spouts all you want to hear, also doesn't mean what they say isn't "bad information". Another great example of acceptance of anything you want to hear.... Even though you may gush and believe everything the left spoon feeds you, and the Democrats agree on, doesn't mean "that is right" either. Your beliefs don't automatically mean "right". |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 23 18:58:06 2009, in response to Re: MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 17:38:39 2009. Malkin's the messenger. The message is this: All white, all the time. MSNBC. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 18:58:17 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 18:52:00 2009. For ME, the issue is that Fox' viewers are constantly being bullshitted, no matter who they are. And obviously they believe the shit they're being fed or there wouldn't be teabaggers or ratings. Look at the wide variations in perception to just the five issues above that are "believed" by each of the two network's viewers. If any of them were peddling FACT, you wouldn't see such wide disparity. TRUTH cannot be argued, it can only be spun ... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 18:58:37 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 18:42:50 2009. LOL, what kind of reputable blog website is that? No more accurate than some rightist website. You really do believe anything that says what you want to hear. It's almost as hilarious as your claim that FOx News people believe everything they are spoon fed, and here you are doing the same...searching the internet for leftist blogs that hopefully support you idea, and of course, post them as fact, because "you believe them, as they say what you want to hear".LMAO. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:05:05 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 18:58:17 2009. For ME, the issue is that Fox' viewers are constantly being bullshitted, no matter who they are.And so are MSNBC's and CNN's. Just look at the absolute CRAP Chris Matthews did about the racial shit, and what NBC is spoonreading it's viewers. An asshole is still an asshole whether it's the right cheek or the left cheek. But of course, partisans like you only look at the right cheek. Look at the wide variations in perception to just the five issues above that are "believed" by each of the two network's viewers. Please don't spout BULLSHIT. Left leaning people will think this is the greatest thing since sliced bread, and the right leaning people will look at it as the antichrist. It has nothing to do with "Fox News" or "MSNBC", but with the different views the left and the right see on the topic. You are one of the biggest spouter of leftist propaganda here, and for some reason you only see the right's propaganda. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 19:05:21 2009, in response to Re: MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 23 18:58:06 2009. Heh. Another reason to be glad all of the talking neck channels got deleted from my teevee lineup. Well ... paging Al Sharpton then. :-\ |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 19:06:41 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 18:58:17 2009. If FOX News told viewers that the IRT (7) train runs to Massapequa, they would believe it and when then told by others that the (7) actually only runs to Flushing, they would argue that it's their conservative opinion that the (7) goes to Massapequa and it's nobody's business to try to impose their views on them.Flip "WMD Found In Iraq" or "Obama Will Stop Care To The Elderly" with "(7) Train to Massapequa" and you get the idea. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:07:32 2009, in response to Re: MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 23 18:58:06 2009. "The place for Politics". LMAO.It's about as funny as "Fair and Balanced". |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 19:07:34 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 18:58:37 2009. Forget the blog. It's the survey that is what we're talking about. I don't care about the bloggers analysis of it. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 19:10:07 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 18:52:00 2009. hahaha. Now you are calling the Wall Street Journal and General Electric liberals?HAHAHAHAHA!! |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 23 19:10:54 2009, in response to Re: MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:07:32 2009. Why is "the place for politics" funny? All they talk about there is politics. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 19:11:56 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:05:05 2009. I spout "leftist propaganda" only because I'm tired of the RWNB stuff you guys post. And yes, I deliberately seek the absurd more often than not in order to try to rub noses in the stupid. Rest assured that my own opinions are far less severe but bad journalism really pisses me off ... as "baloon boy" said, "Im doing it for the show." Only thing I take less seriously than Faux Nooze is OTchat.That all said though, it's quite clear that you're willing to defend bullshit and therefore make ME justified in spray painting the walls for giggles. If you and others are going to take my krylon seriously, don't blame me. :) |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 23 19:12:37 2009, in response to MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 23 17:14:21 2009. Not defending MSNBC, but it always amuses me when conservatives grouse about some subset of liberals not being diverse. Like they really care about diversity. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 19:14:21 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 19:06:41 2009. Heh. I was hoping the most recent "Pelham" movie had been done by Fox. It would have worked deliciously as an argument. Alas, Sony/Columbia did it so I'll have to rerack. :) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 19:15:02 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 19:11:56 2009. Only thing I take less seriously than Faux Nooze is OTchat.I actually take OTChat more seriously. I sometimes learn things here. OTChat is more credible and we already know in advance who the loons are. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 19:15:10 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 19:07:34 2009. Lemme see if I can get a Fox producer to put it on air. THEN it'll be credible. :) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 23 19:16:56 2009, in response to Re: MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box, posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 23 19:10:54 2009. There is no politics on MSNBC, only one sided propaganda. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 19:24:19 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 19:15:02 2009. Heh. I only come here for my old anchorman tradition, taught to me by Harry Reasoner. I let the stories fly all through the show, I'm only in it for the punchline at the end. :)But yeah, OTchat is the ONLY news channel still in my guide. Heh. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 23 19:24:22 2009, in response to Re: MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box, posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 23 19:12:37 2009. Actually, conservatives are not calling MSNBC racist, we are calling them hypocrites for labeling conservatives racists for being as un-diverse as they are. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:24:51 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 19:11:56 2009. I spout "leftist propaganda" only because I'm tired of the RWNB stuff you guys post. And yes, I deliberately seek the absurd more often than not in order to try to rub noses in the stupid.Well, I guess it's a chicken and egg scenario, because I do the same thing, for the opposite reason. Do you really think I give a crap about "Chris Matthews and his White crap"? But when so much leftist utter crap was posted for 8 years, and even now continues, of course, I will seek out the absurd rightist points too, as there is so much leftist crap here, and has been for 8 years, "something" has to be balanced out...."fair and balanced" after all.... . Rest assured that my own opinions are far less severe but bad journalism really pisses me off . Then why were you trying to defend "Chris" with his white shit? THAT was completely bad journalism, and anyone that isn't partisan to the left should see that. as "baloon boy" said, "Im doing it for the show." Only thing I take less seriously than Faux Nooze is OTchat. Why are you blaming "Fox News" for that. ALL the cable networks covered that nonsense, as well as all the local stations. The entire media messed up on that...left slanted as well as right slanted. hat all said though, it's quite clear that you're willing to defend bullshit and therefore make ME justified in spray painting the walls for giggles. And you defend bullskwirt too.....all the time, as do most of the leftists here. The Chris Matthews thread is a case in point. I am not saying the right doesn't do it too, but let's be fair here, if you are going to say that "you won't defend bullskwirt", then perhaps you should not defend the leftist bullskwirt either. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:27:09 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 19:15:02 2009. OTChat is okay. I think we all have fun here.There may be "ragging" on eachother, but there is rarely a war like you see on the "On Topic" side here... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:29:22 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 19:24:19 2009. Truthfully, there are times when I find out about stuff HERE before other places. For example 9/11 was a good example (I consider this commuinity an extension of the old SubTalk community), and many major....as well as minor events I have learned about here....Deaths of celebrities, major tragedies, minor tragedies, and downright absurd world events....OTChat comes through... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:30:38 2009, in response to Re: MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box, posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 23 19:10:54 2009. LOL, yeah, one side of politics. A partisan such as you wouldn't understand, you just proved it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 19:31:31 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:24:51 2009. You might want to recheck the thread ... at no time was I trying to defend anything. I think you might have even moticed that many posts ago in a thread, far far away. :)And as to my own motives, you forget all that "Clinton" stuff that went on over 8 years while Nero fiddled. As for FOX, it became a church. Think of me as Luther. LEX Luther is an acceptable substitute if you will. Heh. And as to the "leftist Bullskirt" what is your problem with Palin? (grin) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 19:32:16 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:27:09 2009. False. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 19:34:43 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:29:22 2009. Oh yeah ... like I said, this is the ONLY "news channel" I need. I was there too on 9/11 during the events. I was about to go to bed when it happened. :(OTchat though really is more like a bizarre South Park mixed with a dash of Angry Beavers more often than it's Beat the Press ... :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:36:01 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 19:10:07 2009. Where did I say that? (Although General Electric, yes), but in any event, I was pointing out that they were no more reputable than "Rassmnuessen" which Selkirk was criticizing about an hour earlier in another thread.Where did I say NBC/WSJ were "liberals"? The part where I was talking about "liberals" had to do with how people would answer questions about the topic, not where the pollsters were. And then I was making fun of you, how you "believe" any poll when they say what you want to hear.....the exact thing you were accusing "Most Fox Viewers" of. Kettle Black, thanks for proving it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 19:37:37 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:36:01 2009. Ummm ... CNN is more reputable than Rasmussen. Rasmussen has ALWAYS been a "hired gun" like J.D.Power ... you tell them what you want, they deliver. :( |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:40:03 2009, in response to Re: MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box, posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 23 19:12:37 2009. Not defending MSNBC, but it always amuses me when conservatives grouse about some subset of liberals not being diverse. Like they really care about diversity.But...who threw the first stone here? This nonsense about MSNBC being "white" was only done because of the assholish remarks Chris Matthews made about "white" last week. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:42:13 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 19:15:10 2009. No, then it will be spun the other way.Statistics can be spun any way you want. With the right spin, you can say the Pope is a Hasidic Jew out of some the same statistics that show him as a Roman Catholic. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 19:47:20 2009, in response to Re: MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:40:03 2009. Heh. If we had a thread for every boneheaded thing Fox said, we'd never be able to keep up. No, this thread exists because it's about the only diversion from reality left. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:57:15 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 19:31:31 2009. Yes, okay, I do remember you saying that. I guess I am so used to you siding with people like "Italian Stallion, and SMAZ", that I incorrectly relumped you on the Chris Matthews thing.And as to my own motives, you forget all that "Clinton" stuff that went on over 8 years while Nero fiddled. And while I wasn't a member of "SubTalk" in the Clinton years to any vocal extent (although I did begin to visit in 1998), I completely HATED what the Republicans did with Clinton. I couldn't stand the Republicans in the 90's for all the partisan bullshit that went on during the Clinton years. I was a Clinton supporter back then, and while I do think Clinton would have saved a lot of nonsense if he didn't "lie" about his affairs, and trying to say that oral sex wasn't sex, I also think it was ABSURD to go after him for getting blowjobs under his desk. I bashed the Republicans all the time back then. But the Democrats did a 180 for the Bush years, and more than made up and spun me away from them by the end of his term. It wasn't until about 2004 or 2005 that I noticed how BAD the Democrats really were. I don't think I ever cared either way before then, and they CERTAINLy aren't winning me over in the last year either, in fact, it probably got worse. Heh. And as to the "leftist Bullskirt" what is your problem with Palin? While I find the venom overdone towards Palin, I don't particularly care for her either. While I think she would have been fine as vice president, all this talk of presidency is utterly absurd, and wish she would go away. But I don't understand why the Democrats keep trying to attack her...they should be HOPING she would run, so give her all the power to do so, as Palin as the Republican candidate would be an automatic Obama victory in 2012. Or Palin running on the conservative ticket would split the right vote, and also would mean an Obama victory....so really, the left is not playing it's cards right here... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 20:00:19 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 19:32:16 2009. Partisan post! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 20:01:39 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:42:13 2009. Well ... if it comes down to that, then I change the channel ... hey look! WHEEL OF FISH is on! :)
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 20:04:52 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 19:37:37 2009. CNN fine, but we are talking about NBC and WSJ....you know, NBC, Top of the Rock, Rockefeller Center....and WSJ, Murdoch. I am sure you love all those people. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 20:06:55 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 19:57:15 2009. That's OK ... just don't get my ass kicked off the LOL and nobody dies. :)As for the rest, yeah ... I'm resigned to the tit for tit going on, I'm just taking down names and making notes for the return trip when the hosers weasel their way back in. As long as there's Fox and ritalin, we just KNOW we're going to go backwards through the tubes and dumptrucks again. Heh. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 20:07:58 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 20:00:19 2009. Wrong again, Dan Lawrence! :) |
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