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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Nov 22 16:40:01 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 16:27:50 2009.

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Probably the views he stands for...

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 16:58:20 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 16:37:53 2009.

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I meant that he claims that his show is balanced because he presents guests on both sides. You're correct that he doesn't claim to be neutral. Sorry for the confusion.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 17:16:29 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 16:58:20 2009.

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Understood.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 17:54:43 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 16:11:14 2009.

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Everyone infers that. It's so obvious.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 17:56:04 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 16:19:51 2009.

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You're totally missing the point. It doesn't matter that the blacks are Democrats, WHY are they Democrats and not independents or Republicans?

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 17:57:30 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 21 20:41:59 2009.

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When did Pelosi have a book signing?

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 17:58:22 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 17:35:33 2009.

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That's easily the stupidest thing you've said. Why would Democrats like anyone conservative? Woman, man or anything?

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Nov 22 18:15:05 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 17:58:22 2009.

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to build bridges. to bring a new era of understanding.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 18:30:17 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 17:56:04 2009.

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Because the Democrat party was very good at recruiting them. The Democrats, who really are an elite party, like to play out that they are all for the "poor souls", or the underdog, when the opposite is really true. They smile at them and say they are for them, and then use them and stab them in the back.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 18:33:08 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 17:58:22 2009.

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Why would Democrats like anyone conservative? Woman, man or anything?

And that is what I Was saying too here.....why should Blacks (mostly democrats) support a conservative? Woman, man, or anything?

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 18:36:10 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 18:33:08 2009.

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Los Angeles has plenty of Asian and Hispanic conservatives. Not many blacks, but blacks aren't the only minority. I would have expected to see lots of Hispanics when Palin came to Carson, but that's not what I saw on the news.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 22 18:39:06 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 18:30:17 2009.

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Heh. So you're saying Blacks are "elitists?" :)

If the knife wounds were as severe as you claim, then there should be a whole lot more "urban/suburban hip-hop" up in there. (grin)

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 22 18:46:07 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 17:57:30 2009.

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August, 2008 through early 2009 ...






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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 22 18:47:55 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 18:36:10 2009.

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Actually, Blacks tend to be more conservative than White people. But that doesn't cause them to support hypocrites.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Nov 22 18:59:19 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 22 18:47:55 2009.

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"Keeping it real", as they say? :)

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 19:03:35 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 22 18:47:55 2009.

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I think that depends. Blacks are more conservative than whites on issues like gay marriage and probably abortion, but are more liberal when it comes to social programs like welfare and health care. Probably more conservative on illegal immigration because blacks compete for jobs more with immigrants than most whites.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 22 19:16:53 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 19:03:35 2009.

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I was thinking more along the lines of crime, family, keeping the community safe, more "real" conservatism. Unlike the "faux issues." The old saying "not HERE you don't." Then again, in the last 20-some-odd years, the whole concept of "conservative" has kinda been turned on its head. Where I was going with it is that based on what's "real" you'd think there would be more republicans in the Black community since the "real" issues would be a natural. And even with respect to "social programs" that too used to be a republican value - you take care of your own, "charity begins at home," and even self-sufficiency like Malcolm used to teach. Second amendment issues like Huey and Bobby used to teach.

So it would appear then that today's republicans are suffering some self-inflicted wounds, no? :)

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 19:18:09 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 18:30:17 2009.

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Yeah, they were good at recruiting them by passing the CIVIL and VOTING RIGHTS ACTS!

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 20:12:37 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 19:03:35 2009.

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You are correct.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 00:08:53 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 16:30:25 2009.

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People take Olbermann and Chris Matthews seriously too

Anybody who takes cable news seriously should not be taken seriously.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 00:15:50 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 00:08:53 2009.

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Shoot 'em in the back! :)



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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 23 01:04:09 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 21:41:26 2009.

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dang, busted. got issue # 1, in da flesh. Crumb rules. he's the heinlein of underground comics. then there's the Fabulous Furry Freak Bros...

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 01:15:58 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 23 01:04:09 2009.

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Feds & Heads! :)

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 02:11:21 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 23 01:04:09 2009.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 23 03:53:39 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 23 01:04:09 2009.

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flaky foont!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 06:41:17 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 00:08:53 2009.

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LOL, you guys are too much. All you here here is all the crap about "Fox News" and it's "cronies" Beck, OReily, Hannity, etc etc, and you say that you people don't take "cable news" seriously? LOL.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 23 13:23:35 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 23 01:04:09 2009.

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Jes' a little taste of it for themz not in da know. I'll throw in a F.F.F.B. to start; the rest R Crumb. Check out that last one, "A Short History of America"...pure fucking genius. The original picture had 15 panels but I haven't been able to find one image large enough to see with all 15. (The last three panels were added by Crumb after the original poster was published). But I did find an image of those last three panels and included them below the main image of the poster. One thing is obvious...Crumb deff knew his streetcars.















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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Nov 23 14:14:32 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:09:03 2009.

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Most railfan trips attract mostly white people so according to this ludicrous excuse for Matthew's comments, the railfan community must be racist.

"Mostly" or "all"? Every fan trip I've been on has been diverse.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Nov 23 14:15:17 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 20 20:39:06 2009.

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From what I've seen, the foamer community pretty much reflects the population.

I think whites might actually be underrepresented vs. the general population on some fantrips.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 14:25:26 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Nov 23 14:15:17 2009.

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I think whites might actually be underrepresented vs. the general population on some fantrips.

Subway, perhaps. LIRR and many of the other Railfan things I have been on, no.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Nov 23 14:50:34 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 20:45:40 2009.

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I must have missed it when Sharpton or Jackson's party nominated them for the Vice Presidency of the United States.

Chris must have missed the white people in the first two photos.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 14:58:23 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Nov 23 14:50:34 2009.

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Yes, the one or two.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by BJC3914 on Mon Nov 23 15:22:59 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Nov 21 21:09:29 2009.

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I will love for her to have a book signing in Harlem.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 15:32:35 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 06:41:17 2009.

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All you here here is all the crap about "Fox News" and it's "cronies" Beck, OReily, Hannity, etc etc, and you say that you people don't take "cable news" seriously?

A large part of the Fox News audience believes everything they say.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 15:35:08 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 15:32:35 2009.

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A large part of the Fox News audience believes everything they say.

Stats?

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Nov 23 15:35:52 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 23:48:42 2009.

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Would you lose sleep if someone beat up Alan Colmes or Uberdork?

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Easy on Mon Nov 23 16:21:44 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Nov 23 15:35:52 2009.

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Let me be more clear. I would never assault anyone, but if Hannity were assaulted I would feel like he deserves it. I wouldn't feel the same way about those other two, but I haven't listened to them much (other than I really like Olbermann on sports).

I almost never watch Hannity and I mostly know him from his radio show.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 16:34:41 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 23 13:23:35 2009.

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Awesome! Thanks.
Did you hear that he just wrote an illustrated Bible?

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 16:44:31 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 20 20:39:06 2009.

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From what I've seen, the foamer community pretty much reflects the population. So back to you in the studio ... :)

Agreed. SubChat is probably the maximum expression of the foamer community and the board is very diverse in terms of race, national origin, religion, age, sexual orientation and occupational background.
The only area where it deviates from the rest of the demographics is that it's almost all male.


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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 16:47:15 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 16:34:41 2009.

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It's ... out! :)





Looks like it'll give the republicans something to yammer about besides Palin. :)


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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Nov 23 16:49:39 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 16:44:31 2009.

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The only area where it deviates from the rest of the demographics is that it's almost all male.

True, but many are sexist.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 17:07:51 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 15:35:08 2009.

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Public Knowledge of Current Affairs-Pew Research

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 17:11:20 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 17:07:51 2009.

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U of Maryland Survey

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 23 17:12:16 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 16:47:15 2009.

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nigga wuld u PU-LEAZE not do that?? it's fuckin' art man, art for arts sake...why yu gotta tarnish it w...ahhh, never fuggin' mind

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 17:13:52 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 23 17:12:16 2009.

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Who's tarnishing anything? I met Crumb back in 1968 when I worked at the East Village Other ... he's an "interesting" character indeed! :)

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MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 23 17:14:21 2009, in response to Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 19 23:38:06 2009.

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The lefties are projecting again

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Re: MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 23 17:20:11 2009, in response to MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 23 17:14:21 2009.

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White power!

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Re: MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 23 17:38:39 2009, in response to Re: MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box, posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 23 17:20:11 2009.

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It's Malkin ... don't you mean "White POWDER?" :)

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Re: MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Nov 23 17:52:30 2009, in response to MSNBC: The Whitest Channel On Your Cable Box, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 23 17:14:21 2009.

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LOL, zero Arab-Americans on any show - - left, center or right. Great diversity we have in America.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 23 18:07:36 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Nov 23 14:14:32 2009.

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The subway trip excluded, most of the railfan trips I have been have been majorily white.
The subway trips are another story.

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