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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:13:05 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:57:23 2009. Only reason I"m in this at all is the dumping on a network nobody watches. And yet the one they DO watch gets a pass?
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Posted by R30A on Sat Nov 21 00:13:46 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 20 23:36:01 2009. Rush Holt is from NJIIRC there are more unitarians. Kent Conrad for one. (although he is in the senate... ) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 00:13:59 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:08:26 2009. Where's your "fair and balance" on this asshole in the first post? You know damn well it's bullcrap, but I have yet to hear you say it without having to bring Fox into it. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 00:14:10 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:03:57 2009. I see. I've had that happen a couple of times. Probably everyone has, but I imagine that it happens more to black and Hispanic men for obvious reasons. Even weirder is when people wait for the next elevator when they see you on it. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 00:15:52 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 00:07:43 2009. You might be right. I didn't stop watching him because I didn't like him. I was still liking his show, but just moved on to other stuff I guess. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:15:58 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 00:01:23 2009. You'll have to ask wonderwoman, she's the one who came up with the measurement standard ... Look, mommy ... it's only WHITE people ... :) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 00:17:27 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 00:01:23 2009. What is a "real American" mean?Ask Sarah Palin and her supporters. They know exactly what it means. Easy knows what it means too. Most people know what it means, including conservatives who happen to be ethnic or religious minorities who shun Palin and her ilk for that very reason. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 00:20:38 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 00:13:59 2009. LIberal debating rule #43. Never concede a point - blame FOX, BECK or LIMBAUGH. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 00:21:30 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 00:17:27 2009. My mistake. She actually said "real America" which while bad, isn't as bad as "real Americans". |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Nov 21 00:26:43 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:42:19 2009. A faaaar leftist. 8-) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Nov 21 00:28:17 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Fri Nov 20 23:45:32 2009. Dukakis is a putz |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sat Nov 21 00:29:02 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 20 17:39:44 2009. Sigh. Ok, I quoted your post in its entirety but I changed the actors. So if what you said was obvious, what I said was obvious for the same reasons. The actual groups involved are less important than the inherent logic of the statement. After reading what I posted, why did you imply that I misunderstood what you said? I'm gonna speculate here...I think it's because I called you on your (apparently) flippant usage of "certain groups of people" in a statement regarding supposed group behaviour, by substituting a different, normally-less-prone-to-being-used-for-discussions-of-group-dynamics-and-hence-less-readily-available-for-popular-derisive-and-mocking-"newspeak" group of people. Simple as that. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 00:30:38 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Nov 21 00:28:17 2009. I can't remember if I voted for him or not. Most likely I did, but I voted for Bush at least once. I can't remember if it was 1988 or 1992 or both. 1992 I think. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Nov 21 00:34:06 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:09:36 2009. ... and probably b4 that I would venture. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 00:37:29 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:36:49 2009. Could it be because they don't believe in her POLICIES?Nope. 44% of Hispanics voted for Bush in 2004. Bush also did well with Asians, Middle Easterners and reasonably well with Jews and other religious minorities that year. It clearly NOT conservative ideology that repulses many otherwise-conservative voters from that woman. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:42:45 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 00:05:02 2009. It DOESN'T ... and no ... two wrongs do NOT make a right. THREE do ... :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:43:51 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Nov 21 00:34:06 2009. It was an election law ... I checked it out a few times. Then I went back to Sponge Bob. :) |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sat Nov 21 00:44:26 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 00:14:10 2009. I'm a short white guy. Happens to me less than a lot but more than rarely, especially as I pass cars driven by women waiting at traffic lights. It's more fear of strangers in general than any racial meaning. Click and not looking at you, yep. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:53:45 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 00:12:16 2009. Ummm ... no, it was about those pesky click sounds on cars driving by KNOWING what it means. For those who don't know, it's louder on the OUTSIDE of the car than the inside. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:56:18 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 00:14:10 2009. Yeah, the incidents I was referring to are in largely Black and Hispanic neighborhoods. I worked for the state of New York for over 13 years and they tended not to hire only white people. But yeah, that's what I was talking about ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:59:28 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 00:13:59 2009. Obviously you didn't read the messages I wrote which you replied to when I called him an idiot on a last place network and several other allusions to the fact that he's wrong ... but once again, if you're claiming to be impartial and bipartisan, then why aren't you whacking Fox for doing that exact thing all the time? Or are you perhaps NOT what you claim to be? All I'm hearing out of you is the wrong wing talking point of the day, no rebuttals please. Hardly "fair" or "balanced." |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:59:53 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 00:20:38 2009. MSNBC, Whoopie, Clinton ... we're even. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 01:04:47 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Nov 21 00:28:17 2009. Heh.
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 01:10:11 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:18:22 2009. You are denying there are prominent rightist African Americans?Michael Steele is prominent? AHAHAHAHAHA!!! |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Nov 21 01:13:00 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 00:30:38 2009. Clinton all the way for me in '92 AND '96. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 01:13:45 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by R30A on Sat Nov 21 00:13:46 2009. Rush Holt is from NJTrue. My bad. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 01:17:00 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:58:37 2009. And please cite the source for this wonderful claim.ME. It's from personal interaction with Palin people and what they say when no one else is listening. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 01:20:49 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 00:21:30 2009. She actually said "real America" which while bad, isn't as bad as "real Americans".Either way, everybody but Chris appears to know what it means. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 21 02:50:02 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Nov 20 19:35:05 2009. what ? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 21 03:29:08 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:00:28 2009. LOLyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 21 03:43:03 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:12:36 2009. Despite all your gyrations to the opposite, there's really nothing to see here.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 21 03:47:50 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by ntrainride on Sat Nov 21 00:29:02 2009. "Whether they're also racist could be, or could not be."You can avoid it all you want but this statement was key to my post. You went off on a tangent so you could make a point. That's fine but don't act like I don't understand. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 21 03:50:37 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:13:39 2009. LMAO!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 21 03:54:58 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:18:22 2009. Not at all, but revealing that caveat to the wikipedia article, that it's not 100% factual so it's not to be given great weight as evidence.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 21 07:50:10 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 00:17:27 2009. They know exactly what it means. Easy knows what it means too. Most people know what it means,This is what it means............. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 21 07:53:58 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 00:21:30 2009. "real American" is not so bad. funny how you and SMAZ think it's so bad, while defending "tribal".what about "great American", like they say on Hannity? btw- I think Palin would consider SMAZ and Easy to be real Americans. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 21 07:55:09 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 01:20:49 2009. You're trying to make it out to be something it isn't here. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 21 08:07:17 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 20 16:18:01 2009. no. if a white commentator called a minority crowd, especially black crowd, "tribal", there would be all kinds of protests and boycotts like we saw during the Obama/monkey drawing, and colorofchange.com vs Beck(as recent examples). |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 21 08:10:14 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Fri Nov 20 23:07:39 2009. you should see the crowds at the US Open in Queens. Even when the Williams sisters play, it's mostly white. Is it the fault of Venus and Serena that people of color don't come out in droves to see them? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 21 08:13:36 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 00:37:29 2009. Bush did well with Hispanics b/c he was from Texas, and the voted for the hometown favorite.No one is repulsed by Palin. She'll be here in Florida on Tuesday, and I'm sure she'll attract white females who like her, and white males who want to fuck her. Big deal. It's a book signing. |
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Posted by docstox on Sat Nov 21 08:38:53 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 20 17:03:45 2009. Better tell the people at Google, then that Wikipedia is putting out false information to the entire planet.If it was bullshit, why didn't those who disagreed with it here (Aug 2008) contact them to say that Wikipedia is a crock of crap and not to be believed.Then I would not have even seen it today and would believe your opinion of the GOP.Better yet, if you dispute it, why not contact all the prominent Republican African Americans yourself to let them know of the wrong factual accuracy of the Wikipedia article.I'm sure they would be interested in knowing they are falsely being categorized as Republicans. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 21 09:11:48 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by docstox on Sat Nov 21 08:38:53 2009. Or maybe you could just perform some due diligence yourself and not present it as evidence, since it shows a flaw.No need to yell at me. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 09:53:43 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 00:17:27 2009. I know what you "think" it means, that doesn't mean what you "think" it means is what it means. Many would beg to differ. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 09:54:23 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by ntrainride on Sat Nov 21 00:44:26 2009. Weird. It's only happened to me a couple of times that I've noticed, although I might not be one to notice.I don't think that it happens often to short white guys. There must be something about you that puts them on alert. You must look threatening in some way. No offense. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 09:55:50 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 21 07:55:09 2009. E-X-A-C-T-L-YI know exactly what they are "trying" to say here, regardless of what SMAZ thinks I understand. I don't agree with his definition or assessment, so therefore according to Liberal 101, I must not understand. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 09:56:34 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 21 08:07:17 2009. Yup, and the more they deny that fact, the funnier their defence of Chris matthews gets. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 09:56:42 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 21 08:07:17 2009. Yup, and the more they deny that fact, the funnier their defense of Chris matthews gets. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 09:57:15 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 21 08:10:14 2009. Great example! The US Open and the USTA must be a racist organization. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 09:58:35 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by docstox on Sat Nov 21 08:38:53 2009. They post Wikipdedia all the time when it says something they "want" to hear, then of course, there's no problem with wiki. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 21 10:14:45 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 09:58:35 2009. And when the article contains this:This article's factual accuracy is disputed. Please see the relevant discussion on the talk page. (August 2008) it quickly gets pointed out here. Doesn't it. your pal, Fred |
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