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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:15:01 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 20 17:11:47 2009.

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Whether they're also racist could be, or could not be."


And what is Chris Matthews implying when he says, "Wow, that is a WHITE crowd gathering there".

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Easy on Fri Nov 20 23:15:37 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:11:06 2009.

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Matthews isn't leftist, he's moderate. If you think that he's far left maybe you are far right?

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:16:41 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 20 17:39:44 2009.

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We see it, but the topic at hand is Chris Matthews remarks that only assume they are. Why else would he feel the need to say, "Wow, that is a WHITE crowd gathering there" several times.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:17:32 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Fri Nov 20 23:15:37 2009.

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No, Chris Matthews is pretty far left, if you think he's moderate, you maybe far left?

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:18:22 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 20 17:03:45 2009.

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You are denying there are prominent rightist African Americans?

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Easy on Fri Nov 20 23:19:26 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:17:32 2009.

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Maybe. I consider myself moderate on most of the major issues. Sometimes I'm right and sometimes left. I think that I tend to be left of Matthews though. He voted for Bush, which I didn't do.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 20 23:20:07 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:07:28 2009.

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Might it possibly be that the republicans are STILL continuing the old "southern strategy" of intolerance even today? That their cynical solution to their philosophy was to put up Michael Steele who is a parody all by himself and then expect minorities to "believe?" Sheesh. I know republicans aren't the sharpest tool in the shed, but wow ... :(

Only "REAL Americans" were invited, yaknow ...

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:20:33 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Nov 20 12:19:44 2009.

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Hannity is an asshole with an agenda too, but at least I can see it. The leftists here somehow feel the need to even defend an asshole like Chris Matthews, simply because he's a leftist or "anti-palin".
I don;t even like Palin, and wish she would go away, but I am not going to defend an asshole like Matthews who says something like "Wow, that is some White crowd collecting there". What the frig does that even mean to be relevant?

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:25:23 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by cortelyounext on Fri Nov 20 10:58:18 2009.

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Now, I am not a Palin guy. I cringe whenever she speaks out of embarrassment for her depth of knowledge not to mention her use of language.

Me too! I cringe when I see her, and she has been all over the last week. But what Matthews said is just completely asinine, and there are people trying to defend him, either simply because they hate Palin, or simply because they are leftists, and he is a leftist.

At the same time, I cringe whenever Matthews opens his mouth as it seems his words spew out in a torrent before his mind has an opportunity to catch up.

That's exactly it, and that's all this is about. It's not even a left or right thing, it's a simply a "Matthews is a moron" thing. I also used to watch Hardball every night until about a year and a half ago. It got so bad at that point that it wasn't even watchable anymore.

Have a good weekend and thanks for reading this poor excuse for a post...

It's probably one of the most unbiased and logical posts in this thread.



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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:28:18 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Nov 20 17:43:56 2009.

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I would have tended to agree until a bunch of what seemed to be the more reputable left here came to his defense.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:30:27 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Fri Nov 20 22:51:12 2009.

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As I said, he never acknowledged his white side, except when he said "typical white woman" [when referencing his grandmother], and you know damn well what I meant.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:31:25 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 20 23:10:12 2009.

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Yes, I click my car doors locked every day as I drive through my neighborhood. What SHIT.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 20 23:36:01 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Nov 20 22:39:01 2009.

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Who are gay?(besides Barney Frank)the muslim(besides keith ellison)The atheist and others?


The other two openly gay members besides Frank are Tammy Baldwin (WI) and Jared Polis (CO).

The other Muslim besides Ellison is Andre' Carson (IN). They are both Sunni.

The atheist is Pete Stark (CA).

The two Buddhists are Mazie Hirono (HA) and Hank Johnson (GA). I erroneouly listed the Soka Gakkai and Jodu Shinsu separetely but the two Buddists are members of those movements within Buddhism.

The Unitarian is Walt Minnick (ID).

Democrats also have one Quaker (Rush Holt-IL) and five Eastern Orthodox (The GOP has one Eastern Orthodox).

The sole Republican Jew is Eric Cantor (VA).









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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:36:49 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Fri Nov 20 23:07:39 2009.

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Could it be because they don't believe in her POLICIES? Why is it because of race?

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:38:31 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Fri Nov 20 23:10:35 2009.

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Great. What does it mean? That the blacks and hispanics don't hold the views of Palin, but how does that make the people that came there racist?

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 20 23:38:37 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 20 23:36:01 2009.

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I only listed the House. Here's the complete article.

Members of the 111th Congress

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:40:38 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 20 23:20:07 2009.

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Yes that's it. Palin is a racist, the people who support her are racist automatically, and anyone that's not a Democrat is a racist.
Great. That's how you feel in your sad world. We know that. Still doesn't make Matthews correct in bringing race up.
HE is the racist here, or at least the one inciting race, and somehow sick partisan poor souls feel that that is a great trait to defend.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 20 23:42:00 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:16:41 2009.

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And of course, FOX would never say something "racist" on their air ... never happen, right?



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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:42:19 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Fri Nov 20 23:19:26 2009.

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I voted for Clinton. I almost voted for Dukakis. Does that make me a leftist?

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Easy on Fri Nov 20 23:45:32 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:42:19 2009.

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No because Clinton is only slightly left. Dukakis is pretty left, but you didn't vote for him.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 20 23:46:02 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:07:28 2009.

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Obama had plenty of white people at his sermons.

Of course but most white people are not racist.
The ones who are adore Sarah Palin.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 20 23:47:12 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:38:31 2009.

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That the blacks and hispanics don't hold the views of Palin,

What are the views of Palin? Enlighten us.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 20 23:48:57 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:40:38 2009.

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Still doesn't make Matthews correct in bringing race up.

He was profiling. Palin supports profiling. Is Palin wrong?


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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:48:58 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 20 23:42:00 2009.

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I don;t give a SHIT what Fox News said, this isn't about Fox News, this is about something Chris Matthews said on MSNBC. How the HELL does something some other asshole network say absolve that? Why is it that every time some point is made about anything bad one side does, does a "well this is what some assholes on the right say" have to come up? Two wrongs make a right? Does that somehow absolve NBC and their group of assholes?

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 20 23:51:00 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:40:38 2009.

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How about Hannity? Just posted a few of his. You keep claiming to be "bipartisan" though through this thread, you're showing where you're really at. Then again, this whole "talking points" memo here is yet another example of the same old flavor-aid ... WHY are you guys taking anything out of the mouth of an idiot on the number last talking necks network seriously in the first place?

Geez ... it's a simple FACT that white people are pretty much the only people who showed up for Palin ... what ever happened to that "big tent?" THERE'S a real question worthy of an answer ... I mean ... it ain't MY fault if most people are able to figure out what your "big tent" really is ...



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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:51:08 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Fri Nov 20 23:45:32 2009.

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But I didn't decide not to vote for Dukakis until I was in the booth. If I was "anit-left", I wouldn't have even gotten near the point of almost pulling the lever.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Easy on Fri Nov 20 23:52:09 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:48:58 2009.

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lol. You didn't mind agreeing with people that brought up Al Sharpton and Obama, but now you don't want any conversation drift?

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:52:22 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 20 23:47:12 2009.

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Her "rightest" views that apparently only attract "white" people.
I told you, I don't even like her, and wish she would go away.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Nov 20 23:53:12 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 20 23:42:00 2009.

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Nice clip, can't argue with "Faux News" facts. The Blacks on that clip who put down THEIR OWN PEOPLE deserve to be shot, IMO. Frigging oreos, that they are.
Can't wait to see the comments on this by our usual gang of racists. Oh wait, they won't say a word.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 20 23:53:20 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:02:01 2009.

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There was no relevance for him to say the race of the people coming to the book signing.

Would you have found it acceptable had he said "WOW, that is certainly a crowd of Real Americans gathering there"?



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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:53:35 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 20 23:48:57 2009.

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Two seperate issues. Palin is wrong.
And she was talking about profiling religious extremists. Matthews was profiling people simply being born white.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Easy on Fri Nov 20 23:54:01 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:51:08 2009.

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Everyone can see that you have become more conservative over the last couple of years. You can't even watch Hardball anymore. He hasn't changed, you have.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 20 23:56:20 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:52:22 2009.

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Her "rightest" views that apparently only attract "white" people.

Nope.
There are plenty of conservative-minded Blacks, Hispanics, Asians and non-Christian Whites. Guess why they are repelled by her?


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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:57:23 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 20 23:51:00 2009.

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I don't give SHIT about Hannity. I said somewhere in this thread that he was an asshole. He has absolutely nothing to do with this topic about Chris Matthews. And I said it long before you said I was only talking about one side.
Apparently the only defense you have for the asshole Matthews is "well Fox this, or Hannity that". Well if that's your only defense, you lost.

Geez ... it's a simple FACT that white people are pretty much the only people who showed up for Palin ...

And who cares? Mostly black people show up for Jesse Jackson or Sharpton. How is it relevant? How is that "news". You are so quick to criticize "Fox News", but you somehow feel the need to defend this asshole Matthews bringing race into this.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 20 23:57:35 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:53:35 2009.

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Imagine for a second that you were peaceful and born Muslim? :(

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:58:37 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 20 23:46:02 2009.

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The ones who are adore Sarah Palin.


And please cite the source for this wonderful claim.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 00:00:08 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Fri Nov 20 23:54:01 2009.

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Maybe I have. But please click on the video in the firts post in this thread, and if you don't have a problem with that video, than keep watching the asshole.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 00:01:23 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 20 23:53:20 2009.

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What is a "real American" mean? They are real americans because they come to see some woman that can't disappear?

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 00:02:49 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 20 23:56:20 2009.

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No, not at all, it doesn't prove anything. And we are only going by NBC's biased feed of film. Do we have stats for who showed up? I could have filmed one part of the area to, and played it off as fact if I wanted to.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:03:57 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:31:25 2009.

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We're not talking about YOUR neighborhood. I have some friends in Albany and Schenectady that I go visit because they're afraid to come out to where I live. And as I'm standing there on the corner with them talking, you can hear those door locks clicking as they drive by. :(

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 00:05:02 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 20 23:57:35 2009.

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Palin was wrong in the Hannity interview. Period.
But how does that make Matthews correct in his racist comments. Again, in first grade I learned two wrongs don't make a right. There is no excuse for a newsman to be saying, "hey, that is an [ethnic] crowd there. And for you, who claims to have been in news at one time to say otherwise would be completely hypocritical.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:05:23 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 20 23:36:01 2009.

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Well ... now that we've identified the other not "REAL" Americans, we can round 'em up now. :)

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 00:06:02 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 00:00:08 2009.

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I don't have a problem with him, but I haven't watched him regularly in well over a year. Maybe two.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:07:29 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Nov 20 23:53:12 2009.

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It's warm now in the southern hemisphere. Betcha they're paddling down denial. :)

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 00:07:40 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 00:02:49 2009.

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I could have filmed one part of the area to, and played it off as fact if I wanted to.

Are you saying that they FOXed-up (Great Fred G term) the video?
Have you ever been at a Palin rally?


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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 00:07:43 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 00:06:02 2009.

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Neither have I, but at least I admit that's because it's become unwatchable. He was NOT that bad two years ago.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:08:26 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:48:58 2009.

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But ... but ... but ... you're always telling us how you're impartial and nonpartisan ... I'm merely providing some "fair and balance." :)

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:09:36 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 00:07:43 2009.

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He was that stupid FOUR years ago ...

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 00:10:13 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 00:07:40 2009.

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Yes, NBC "NBC's" their shit shit feeds just as much as Fox Foxes up their shit feeds.

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Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 00:12:16 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:03:57 2009.

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There are plenty of people I know that would never live in my neighborhood if that answers your question.


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