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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed May 21 18:42:09 2008 Daily MailBack then the phones were powered by clean coal. It was the size of a dustbin lid and had a range of just half a mile. The world's first mobile phone could hardly be more different to today's devices, which are small enough to slip inside a pocket and can call almost anywhere in the world. But its inventor, Nathan Stubblefield, is finally being recognised as the father of mobile phone technology exactly 100 years after he patented his design for a "wireless telephone". The melon farmer came up with his invention in 1902 after devoting every spare hour and penny he had to establishing a telephone service in his rural home-town of Murray, Kentucky........in link |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed May 21 19:03:09 2008, in response to Cell Phone invented 106 years ago, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed May 21 18:42:09 2008. So he should be blamed for all the shit that comes with cellphones!Assholes, dangerous drivers and simpletons who want to look self important. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed May 21 19:21:23 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone invented 106 years ago, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed May 21 19:03:09 2008. They probably had problems with horse-drawn carriage drivers while talking on their trash-can lid sized phones. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 21 20:29:24 2008, in response to Cell Phone invented 106 years ago, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed May 21 18:42:09 2008. It may have been a wireless phone, but it wasn't a cell phone. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed May 21 20:37:57 2008, in response to Cell Phone invented 106 years ago, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed May 21 18:42:09 2008. That was the first radio telephone. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 21 20:41:30 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone invented 106 years ago, posted by AlM on Wed May 21 20:29:24 2008. The only thing that defines a "cell phone" is the radio cells of the network—not the phone itself. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 21 20:42:46 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by RonInBayside on Wed May 21 20:37:57 2008. Cellphones are radio telephones. Radio telephones can use a radio cell network if they are on the right frequency. Pure pedantry. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 21 21:10:00 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone invented 106 years ago, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 21 20:41:30 2008. The only thing that defines a "cell phone" is the radio cells of the network—not the phone itself.Exactly. The phone invented 106 years ago did not communicate with a network of radio cells. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 21 21:14:38 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by RonInBayside on Wed May 21 20:37:57 2008. Nope ... it was the first "inductive loop" telephone ... didn't work at radio frequencies at all, it used DC (battery) and inductive coupling at speech frequencies.If you take #30 copper wire (used for winding coils) and put up 8 turns or so around the perimeter of any sized room on the ceiling, and hook it up to the speaker terminals of an amplifier and then wind about 600 turns of it on a pencil and hook it up to a small battery-powered amplifier and a headset, you've reproduced exactly how the above works. And ... many museums have done just this over the years for "self-guided tours" and as you move from room to room, you're listening to the "ceiling loop" for that room ... |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed May 21 21:18:19 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone invented 106 years ago, posted by AlM on Wed May 21 21:10:00 2008. I don't think it would've been a stretch to invent radio repeaters. I forget what year coppers got radios. I think that was on AM band too. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed May 21 22:10:02 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 21 21:14:38 2008. I stand corrected. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 21 22:12:53 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by RonInBayside on Wed May 21 22:10:02 2008. No biggie ... article didn't explain it, but I thought folks might be amused by how it actually worked. :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 21 22:26:05 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 21 21:14:38 2008. didn't work at radio frequencies at all"Radio frequencies" are just a certain set of kilohertz and megahertz on the EM spectrum. If you can transmit yer voice using EM waves, it's radio of some kind. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed May 21 22:32:39 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 21 22:12:53 2008. Interesting stuff. Very elegant, actually. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 21 22:38:16 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by RonInBayside on Wed May 21 22:32:39 2008. Best part, elegantly simple. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 21 22:45:00 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 21 22:26:05 2008. Nope ... no "radio" at all ... electromagnetic, yes ... think of this arrangement as being an audio transformer which consists of two sets of windings on an iron core like any other transformer. Now take the windings off the core and separate them from each other by a distance. It'll still work, but there will be very large losses because the coupling of near distance is no more. Add an amplifier to the "receiving coil" to boost up the signal, and there you are. No modulation, no carrier, just two windings talking to each other like an ordinary telephone by means of "mutual inductance" ... that's all it took. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed May 21 22:53:40 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 21 22:45:00 2008. Any simpler and you'd have a string between 2 paper cups. :0) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 21 23:33:10 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by RonInBayside on Wed May 21 22:53:40 2008. Don't knock it ... back in the NYNEX days, that was our service up here. Along with a crank. :) |
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Posted by Robert King on Thu May 22 08:42:38 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 21 22:26:05 2008. So the voice coils and magnets in your speakers are radio apparatus?-Robert King |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 22 08:45:35 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by Robert King on Thu May 22 08:42:38 2008. And HIM with no breadcasting licence! Already dropped dime! Heh. |
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Posted by Robert King on Thu May 22 16:11:05 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 22 08:45:35 2008. Uh-oh, no broadcasting license? Maybe we should make him watch the kitty dominoes barz 'n tone:I'm pushing this as a replacement for our standard SMTPE 75% bars and tone at work! Heh! :) -Robert King |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 22 16:26:40 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone invented 106 years ago, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed May 21 19:21:23 2008. hah, that is funny. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 22 16:27:02 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone invented 106 years ago, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed May 21 19:03:09 2008. No, stupid people should be blamed for being stupid, this guy was guy. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 22 16:36:40 2008, in response to Cell Phone invented 106 years ago, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed May 21 18:42:09 2008. I respect this guy and his vision, but he wasn't really using the magic of electromagnetic radiation. He was just using what is essentially a long distance transformer.Now that is still viable for short distances, but for long distances, you need Electro Magnetic waves, which propogate through the aether better, and can be focused to a point. Also, a long distance transformer would require more power due to the resistance in the wire. In actuality, there is little understanding as to why a radio antenna radiates, but it does. Now the real inventor of the cell phone would have to be the EXCELLENT Nikola Tesla, who invented the Radio. I believe it was he who realized to use a cpacitor and inductor in resonant frequencies to transmit waves. Cell phones are essentially radios that operate at microwave frequencies. He also had an idea for what would become the internet, and even built remote control vehicles. He wanted to create a World Wireless company which would allow people to communicate easily overseas via phone and all. He also had ideas for television, but it would be invented later. he also figured out a way to send energies or pull unergies out of the surrounding Aether, and built a car that used this method. IT was all destroyed though by the greedy capitalists. Tesla also Lived in New York, and made lots of his inventions in new york. He is excellent, and i bet he even rode the subway as well. COOL. He probably got some of his ideas while riding the subway, and i bet he was the type of guy to go up to the RFW. PS, I disagree with the relativity theory, and so did Nikola Tesla, so if you call me crazy and stupid for that, you will be calling one of the most excellent people ever stupid as well, but he was definately smarter than me for now. Maybe i will learn as i get older, and be super smart too. But yeah, Tesla figured most of the stuff out, he was an excellent guy. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 22 16:37:46 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 21 21:14:38 2008. Woah, this is a cool explanation. I imagine now the self guided tours have memory cards in them, as you can punch numbers into them. |
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Posted by JohnL on Thu May 22 16:41:12 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by Robert King on Thu May 22 16:11:05 2008. If you like that, have a look here. It’s all British stuff, but someone spent a lot of effort to recreate logos in Flash! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 22 17:39:22 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 22 08:45:35 2008. Breadcasting? He can't feed the ducks? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 22 22:12:03 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by JohnL on Thu May 22 16:41:12 2008. Nifty stuff! I'm gonna see about planting a few of those in a training video I'm putting together for my folks in UK and India. I'm thinking "Ulster". :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 22 22:12:30 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by Robert King on Thu May 22 16:11:05 2008. I'd LOVE to have that in 720x486 NTSC. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 22 22:16:14 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone not invented 106 years ago, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 22 17:39:22 2008. Bishop Fulton J. Sheen had the advantage that he was a spellbinding presence, presiding back then over the weekly radio program, The Catholic Hour. Evidence of his powers to benumb was eloquently given one Sunday when the network announcer, at the close of the hour, solemnly informed the radio audience that the subject of Monsignor Sheen's next broadcast, the succeeding week, would be, "Thou hast cast bread upon the waters." "You are listening," the announcer signed off, "to the National Breadcasting Company." |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 22 23:27:34 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone invented 106 years ago, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 22 16:36:40 2008. which propogate through the aether betterDo you textbooks say anything about "Negroes: America's dancin'est rapefolk?" |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 23 04:17:13 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone invented 106 years ago, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 22 16:36:40 2008. uh oh, time for a new tinfoil hat. |
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Posted by JohnL on Fri May 23 21:56:23 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone invented 106 years ago, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 23 04:17:13 2008. I thought a plastic bag over the head provided better protection from the cosmic rays…those hydrogen atoms in the polymers give really good protection.But it must come down to at least the shoulders for full head protection. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri May 23 22:42:30 2008, in response to Re: Cell Phone invented 106 years ago, posted by JohnL on Fri May 23 21:56:23 2008. I will go with this joke... You need tin foil to block out the radio frequencies, and plastic for the UV. The radio frequencies are sent in by the feds to control your mind. UV is sent via Ipods to make people retarded, and texting machines. |
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