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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue May 13 19:05:15 2008, in response to Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:02:57 2008. McCain |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 13 19:08:06 2008, in response to Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:02:57 2008. I predict this will be a cordial, well ordered thread full of thoughtful debate and respectful discourse. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 13 19:09:25 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 13 19:08:06 2008. Anybody but Obama.(Hey, it's the 2008 version of Anybody But Bush) |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue May 13 19:16:16 2008, in response to Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:02:57 2008. What I do everyyear. I write in Jefferson Davis. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 13 19:18:55 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue May 13 19:05:15 2008. He needs to stop whining about greenhouse gasses. Environmentalists aren't gonna vote for him even if he promises to ban the burning of coal outright. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:22:47 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 13 19:18:55 2008. true, he even supports that gas tax BS like hillary, which is why i now see the BS in him too.What i am really looking for is someone with a reason as to why Clinton is still in this race, or why someone would vote for her. Maybe she doesn't realize that just because her husband was presiden doesn't mean she is destined to become one as well. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue May 13 19:28:45 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:22:47 2008. Why's Obama in the race either? He doesn't have the delegates or anything. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 13 19:32:18 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 13 19:18:55 2008. He needs to stop whining about greenhouse gassesSooner or later it will occur to you that reducing emissions of greenhouse gases is good for the economy and good for our foreign policy. Less Arab, Iranian, and Venezuelan oil! |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:34:01 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by AlM on Tue May 13 19:32:18 2008. True, but is it really? Are you planning on making Iraq part of the US or something? I think he is very interested indeed in the profits to be made from the oil he can have control over. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:37:09 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue May 13 19:05:15 2008. That guy will perpetuate the military industrial complex, and help expand the private jail industrial complex. We need somebody to shut down the entire earth's military industrial complexes.Look it up, private jails are being built, and people are making PROFIT from private jails. They get all the petty criminals who hit their girlfriends or something, and get paid millions by the government. McCain is for this privatization. |
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Posted by metropod on Tue May 13 19:40:44 2008, in response to Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:02:57 2008. Ralph Wiggum
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 13 19:41:08 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:22:47 2008. Do you mean the gas tax that McCain proposed as a way of relieving the current price burden?Why should Hillary quit now? Primaries aren't over. She'd be winning this thing if Florida and Michigan were done properly. At least that's what some people say. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 13 19:43:35 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by AlM on Tue May 13 19:32:18 2008. Sooner or later it will occur to you that reducing emissions of greenhouse gases is good for the economy and good for our foreign policy.Yes and no. More expensive energy and fewer jobs is not good for the economy. Less reliance on imported oil is, but capping greenhouse gasses restricts exploitation of our #1 domestic source of energy, coal. We have the largest coal reserves on Earth. And those who want greenhouse gasses capped don't want the natural replacement, nuclear power. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 13 19:45:12 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:22:47 2008. Hillary wants to use the remaining primaries to show the superdelegates that Obama can't widen his base outside hardcore liberals and blacks. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 13 19:48:17 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 13 19:45:12 2008. She wants him to lose so bad, so she can run in 2012.If her plan is to show the superdelegates this strategy, it isn't working, because every time I turn on the tv, Obama racked up another superdelegate. The media is relentless against her. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:50:22 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 13 19:48:17 2008. Not really, the media is relentless against both, look at the excellent pastor White obama had to deal with. The are more relentless against Obama, i've seen them shoe things implying his muslim heritage, so people won't vote for him.George Bush said it : McCain will be president. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue May 13 20:01:06 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue May 13 19:28:45 2008. What channels are you watching? CBS News reported tonight that even if Hillary takes West Virginia, she still can't overtake Obama. He has a plurality in SuperDeligates already. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue May 13 20:07:09 2008, in response to Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:02:57 2008. I vote for Obama drama. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue May 13 20:08:59 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:50:22 2008. Don't hold your breath. McCain has a couple of big minuses already, beginning with his age, his hatred of Amtrak, and the fear that he will bring four more years of governmental gridlock. Plus, the charge that he was brainwashed in the North Viet Nam prisons will surface "swift boat" style, even though it is slim to none he was. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue May 13 20:10:50 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue May 13 20:08:59 2008. he hates Amtrak? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 13 20:28:05 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue May 13 20:08:59 2008. Plus, the charge that he was brainwashed in the North Viet Nam prisons will surface "swift boat" style, even though it is slim to none he was.I doubt it. Democrats have never been good at that kind of innuendo. They couldn't even convince voters that Reagan had early stage Alzheimer's when it was actually true. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 13 20:30:00 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 13 19:43:35 2008. More expensive energy and fewer jobs is not good for the economy.Wake up! At $120 per barrel of oil, the alternatives are LESS expensive. At that price you can even figure out how to store nuclear waste for 100,000 years. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 13 20:31:12 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 13 19:43:35 2008. We have the largest coal reserves on Earth.The air pollution from coal already kills more people (asthma, etc.) than radical Islamists ever will. Forget global warrming - coal is inhuman for that reason alone. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 20:35:36 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by AlM on Tue May 13 20:31:12 2008. i think automobiles contribute more to that issue of asthma in cities. Coal plants contribute to acid rain. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue May 13 20:36:57 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 13 19:09:25 2008. No surprise there. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue May 13 20:39:14 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue May 13 19:16:16 2008. No fair. Florida gets to vote every year. Don't know why you guys were whining about being disenfranchised.. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue May 13 20:42:26 2008, in response to Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:02:57 2008. Peter Rosa.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Easy on Tue May 13 20:44:16 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 13 19:45:12 2008. He needs a strategy to win over her base of uneducated white males and older white women. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 20:52:00 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Easy on Tue May 13 20:44:16 2008. True about the older women thing, they look at her as if she cares about them. I don't know about uneducated white males, i think McCain is the strongpoint with that one. Just like Obama has the support of many uneducated black males. All candidates have a share of uneducated supporters. Look out for the Hillary supporters who deem you sexist the second you say you prefer Obama. Didn't happen to me, but i saw it happen to someone, and it was sad to see a pretty, young, yet stupid girl. Really primitive. :( |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 13 20:52:50 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:50:22 2008. It has already been established by impartial media observers that Obama's positive press coverage has been mostly positive compared to McCain and Hillary. That's a fact.This was based on measured network television and newspaper coverage. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 13 20:53:11 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 19:50:22 2008. Are you kidding? The media has been so biased FOR Obama, that it was almost sickening. It wasn't until the Wright thing that that changed - briefly. They are MUCH harder on Hillary.But yes, with either of those two clunkers on the Democrat side, McCain has a huge chance of winning. the Republicans should be in the basement in polls based on the present anomosity against the current administration....but McCain is not, he's right on the first floor with the Democrats. Amazing considering the current economic climate, and 8 years of relentless Bush bashing. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 13 20:54:52 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue May 13 20:08:59 2008. his [McCain] hatred of AmtrakOh yes, that will make him lose big....loss of the Railfan base will surely make the Democrats win.... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 13 20:56:52 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 20:52:00 2008. True. But the angle Easy is looking for, is the one you'll read about in tomorrow's newspapers after Hillary's landslide victory in West Virginia. The belief that if you're white, and not voting for Obama, then WHY?! This issue of race will come up regarding Hillary's victory in West Virginia, and the stereotyping of the mostly white southern state will be relentless. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 20:59:17 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 13 20:53:11 2008. Heres the thing: Lots of americans don't want a "negro" president, that is all, really. They probably just want a white man. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue May 13 20:59:17 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 13 20:53:11 2008. One of McCain's biggest negatives will be his age. He'll be 72 by inauguration. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 13 20:59:19 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Easy on Tue May 13 20:44:16 2008. He could stop playing the race card to his benefit. He could change his position on guns, attitude towards working class people, not associate with domestic terrorists, etc........ |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 13 21:00:17 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue May 13 20:10:50 2008. I never heard that. I think perhaps he could be "indifferent" to it, which is not the same as "hating" it. I don't know where that came from, I have read nothing on his view of it either way. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue May 13 21:00:35 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 13 20:56:52 2008. West Virgina has the lowest percentage of college graduates of all 57 states. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 21:01:13 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 13 20:56:52 2008. The hell with it, if the people can't act mature over race, then the candidates should just put brown bags over their heads, and wear white gloves. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 13 21:01:54 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 13 20:52:50 2008. Yup. Aside from the Wright press, which was inevidable to avoid once that lunatic was exposed, aside from that, the media has been very good to him...as far as their treatment to any candidate would be. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 13 21:03:28 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 20:52:00 2008. Look out for the Hillary supporters who deem you sexist the second you say you prefer Obama.Yeah and look at all the Obama supporters that deem you racist if you say you don't support Obama. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 13 21:05:15 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Easy on Tue May 13 20:59:17 2008. 70 is the new 50.I don't think anyone cares about his age. It's much less significant than Obama's associations with domestic terrorists, wanting to ban guns, and his playing the race card, like when his wife and Oprah said, "Don't let them tell you now is not the time........", and stating that Obama is black, not 1/2 black. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 13 21:05:22 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 20:59:17 2008. no. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue May 13 21:06:00 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 13 21:01:54 2008. You can't say "aside from the Wright press." The media coverage of Obama's pastor has been unprecedented. Many white people are accusing Obama of hating half his family and by extension hating himself. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 13 21:06:37 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 13 20:59:17 2008. I thought the owner of Freddy's Record Shack in Harlem was the last man alive using the term "negro". |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue May 13 21:06:52 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue May 13 20:01:06 2008. What's a superdelegate? Did they cast their votes already?Didn't they report that during Iowa too? and everyday since. Obama isn't in the "lead" because he won all these Caucus states that only go Republican did he? They didn't mess the system up yet, we still go by the electorial collage. All of Obama's states go Republican, and Hillary's states go for McCain except for 10% of those, that's called a runaway. Doesn't matter, Obama will be good. It'll show middle America the types of people we got living here. Might wake them up. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue May 13 21:08:10 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 13 21:05:15 2008. I heard on the local talk radio that 40% of voters have said that they have a "problem" (I don't remember the phrasing) voting in a President over 70. That was more than people that had the same problem with a black or woman candidate. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 13 21:09:33 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Easy on Tue May 13 21:06:00 2008. That's because that "pastor" is a complete lunatic. It's unprecedented, as in recent past, I don't think I have seen any presidential candidate connected to such a racist, anti-American, raving lunatic man. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue May 13 21:11:01 2008, in response to Re: Who do YOU Endorse for the Presidency?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue May 13 21:06:52 2008. What are "middle America types"? Is that code for bitter people that cling to guns and religion? |
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