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On This Date, 1965
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 7 12:33:47 2019 April 1965 - North Vietnam’s President Ho Chi Minh rejects President Johnson’s offer of unconditional peace talks and described Mr. Johnson’s Vietnamese policies as “the daydream of a madman.” Ho was quoted - “We love peace, but we are not afraid of war. We will drive out the invading U.S. marauders to defend our country.” And thats exactly what happened.
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Re: On This Date, 1965
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Sun Apr 7 12:53:54 2019, in response to On This Date, 1965, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 7 12:33:47 2019.* IAWTP and one of many reasons why I did not go !!!
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Apr 7 13:04:38 2019, in response to On This Date, 1965, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 7 12:33:47 2019.* And thats exactly what happened Thanks for showing you love communist dictators and regard the US as "marauders". You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sun Apr 7 13:30:19 2019, in response to On This Date, 1965, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 7 12:33:47 2019.* Do you know we came within a cunt hair of winning? I only found that out a few years ago. If we would have stayed in the conflict for just a couple of more months, North Vietnam was ready to surrender
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Posted by Mitch45* on Sun Apr 7 13:56:52 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Apr 7 12:53:54 2019.* You were drafted but didn't go?
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Sun Apr 7 14:18:36 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 7 13:56:52 2019.* nope ! lol
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Sun Apr 7 17:58:14 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 7 13:04:38 2019.* Huh? How does reporting a fact show love of communist dictators? You are truly confused.
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Sun Apr 7 18:02:55 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 7 13:30:19 2019.* Nope, never heard that one before. Who is your source? If it were as close as you say, why did we leave?
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sun Apr 7 18:13:16 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 7 18:02:55 2019.* I think it was on the History Channel on one of those channels I saw it. I don't think that the United States knew that the North Vietnamese were that close to surrender.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sun Apr 7 18:17:08 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 7 18:02:55 2019.* https://www.duffelblog.com/2013/10/vietnam-war-winning/
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Posted by Elkeeper* on Sun Apr 7 18:18:04 2019, in response to On This Date, 1965, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 7 12:33:47 2019.* One of my favorite theories is that LBJ got us involved in Vietnam to take our minds off of the JFK shooting and Cuban involvement. In exchange for sending our troops literally halfway around the world, we allowed Cuba a free hand in Latin America and Africa, particularly Angola. Why didn't LBJ keep the US troops here to fight Cuban expansionism?
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sun Apr 7 18:33:55 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Apr 7 18:18:04 2019.* LBJ got us involved in Viet nam?
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Posted by AlM* on Sun Apr 7 18:39:50 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 7 18:17:08 2019.* “When we saw pictures of the American helicopters over their embassy, we just assumed they were bringing in reinforcements and figured the game was up,” Giap laughed. “Even after the South Vietnamese surrendered, we thought it was some kind of trick and fled to the hills for a month until we found out we’d actually overrun the country.” Gaslighting. The South Vietnamese Army was being consistently defeated in the last year. Once the US decided to withdraw its forces and leave it in the hands of the South, the war didn't go well.
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Sun Apr 7 20:03:07 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Apr 7 18:18:04 2019.* "...take our minds off of the JFK shooting..." The JFK shooting was a Mafia hit. Oswald was the fall guy & Ruby was the connected one to silence Oswald. It was Bobby who went after the mob so the death sentence went to the "head of the snake" simply put. LBJ's esclation of the Viet Nam war had nothing to do with the JFK takeout, Cuban expansionism in Latin America or Angola.
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Posted by AlM* on Sun Apr 7 20:08:00 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 7 20:03:07 2019.* The JFK shooting was a Mafia hit. Evidence?
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sun Apr 7 20:10:51 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 7 20:03:07 2019.* LOL! You have a vivid imagination.
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Posted by Easy* on Sun Apr 7 20:12:50 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 7 20:08:00 2019.* You can google and find evidence. Proff is a different story.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sun Apr 7 20:15:51 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 7 20:12:50 2019.* And vaccines cause autism.
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Posted by Easy* on Sun Apr 7 20:19:55 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 7 20:15:51 2019.* Lots of evidence for that too! People that believe that are passionate about it.
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Posted by AlM* on Sun Apr 7 20:24:48 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 7 20:12:50 2019.* You can google and find evidence. No. I can Google and find allegations. Most of them make Jack Ruby sound like he was really in with the Mafia, whereas the evidence is only of a very tenuous connection.
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Posted by AlM* on Sun Apr 7 20:25:56 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 7 20:19:55 2019.* Lots of evidence for that too! Nope. All the original evidence has been successfully refuted by peer reviewed journal articles.
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Posted by Easy* on Sun Apr 7 20:36:50 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 7 20:25:56 2019.* Using that logic the county of Los Angeles had no evidence that OJ murdered anyone.
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Posted by Easy* on Sun Apr 7 20:38:40 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 7 20:24:48 2019.* Not all evidence is good or convincing.
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Posted by Mitch45* on Sun Apr 7 21:09:34 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Apr 7 14:18:36 2019.* So you're a draft dodger?
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sun Apr 7 21:14:20 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 7 20:03:07 2019.* Oy!
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sun Apr 7 21:26:18 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 7 20:03:07 2019.* Fisk Ave Oliver
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Sun Apr 7 21:28:29 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 7 21:09:34 2019.* no i refused to go to war and kill innocent people !!!
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Posted by Fred G* on Sun Apr 7 21:47:50 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 7 20:03:07 2019.* I think people go for conspiracy theories on the JFK assassination because it's hard to believe that a lone loser like Lee Harvey Oswald could kill a President. I think it was Oswald and only Oswald.
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Posted by Fred G* on Sun Apr 7 21:51:37 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Apr 7 21:28:29 2019.* You get called names by guys who would be too chicken to post a pic of themselves online here LOL
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Sun Apr 7 23:06:28 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 7 20:08:00 2019.* Check out "I Heard You Paint Houses" By Charles Brandt. Briefly, its the story of Frank "The Irishman" Sheeran on the details of how he killed Jimmy Hoffa. It also outlines a very plausable explanation of how the Mafia plotted, arranged & execuited JFK's assination. All spelled out by a man on the inside, Frank Sheeran. Proof? No, but the way its outlined & the reasoning behind the hit, it does make sense. But in reality, we may never know.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sun Apr 7 23:50:01 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 7 21:47:50 2019.* I agree with that. I think people think that their world is invincible and highly guarded and the fact is its not.
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Posted by AlM* on Mon Apr 8 01:47:10 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 7 20:36:50 2019.* On the contrary. They presented plenty of evidence in court that has never been refuted. The evidence about vaccines causing autism was ALL badly put together to begin with, and probably heavily faked, and that has been proved. In contrast, even if some of the evidence against OJ was faked, there was still plenty against him, as shown by the civil trial.
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Posted by AlM* on Mon Apr 8 01:48:41 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 7 20:38:40 2019.* Yep, like the evidence that vaccines cause autism.
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Posted by jimmymc25* on Mon Apr 8 01:55:46 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 7 17:58:14 2019.* It's Olog.....everyone else knows you did nothing wrong.
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Posted by FYBklyn1959* on Mon Apr 8 11:32:11 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 7 21:51:37 2019.* +100
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Posted by FYBklyn1959* on Mon Apr 8 11:32:36 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Apr 8 01:55:46 2019.* +7
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Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Mon Apr 8 11:42:30 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by AlM on Mon Apr 8 01:48:41 2019.* To paraphrase a Facebook meme: Many immunologists are on the autism spectrum. Therefore, autism causes vaccines.
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Posted by AlM* on Mon Apr 8 11:47:58 2019, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 7 23:06:28 2019.* OK, so one guy tells a plausible story of how the Mafia arranged to have Kennedy killed. But various people have told other plausible stories: Castro did it Cuban exiles did it LBJ did it The CIA did it Clay Shaw did it Israel did it At most one of these can be correct, and quite likely none are. What all the stories lack is hard evidence.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Nov 17 11:59:10 2025, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 7 13:30:19 2019.* Yes. It was the leftists in DC that got in the way and wasted our resources. They wanted the North Vietnamese to "win".
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Posted by Mitch45* on Mon Nov 17 13:32:04 2025, in response to On This Date, 1965, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 7 12:33:47 2019.* But it took 10 years and the lives of many, many people on both sides.
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Mon Nov 17 14:12:42 2025, in response to On This Date, 1965, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 7 12:33:47 2019.*
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Fri Jun 5 05:12:23 2026, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 7 17:58:14 2019.* You called the US being marauders a "fact" by saying that Ho Chi Minh's words illustrated "exactly what happened". That shows love for communist dictators, and please do not say it doesn't.
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Posted by Jeff Rosen* on Fri Jun 5 09:48:28 2026, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 5 05:12:23 2026.* You are totally nuts!!!!
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Fri Jun 5 14:44:25 2026, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 5 05:12:23 2026.* Please...find a way to stop spewing nonsense. BTW, it doesn't.
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Posted by Jimmymc25* on Fri Jun 5 15:47:17 2026, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jun 5 14:44:25 2026.* Remember, it’s Olog you’re talking to. Do you really think he’s going to take your advice?
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sat Jun 6 12:29:32 2026, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jun 5 14:44:25 2026.* You're the one who spewed nonsense. And yes, it does. Ho was quoted - “We love peace, but we are not afraid of war. We will drive out the invading U.S. marauders to defend our country.” And that's exactly what happened. Why are you denying what you said? Claiming Ho's words to be "exactly what happened" means you claim that our boys were "invading … marauders" and that the commies pushed us out by force. Never mind calling Ho "president" when he was a dictator.
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Sat Jun 6 17:54:45 2026, in response to Re: On This Date, 1965, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 5 05:12:23 2026.* Reporting facts does not indicate support or opposition of what happened. You're shooting the messenger. That said, you should really get a life. Theres more going on in this world than sitting at a keyboard dredging up 7 year old posts and using that to vent your warped interpretation of what was said. But I'm guilty to. Guilty of taking the bait.
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