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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Mar 25 12:12:40 2026 Can someone please explain why TSA is nessesary? |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Mar 25 12:42:15 2026, in response to TSA, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Mar 25 12:12:40 2026. BIG BIGIAWTP |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Mar 25 12:46:58 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Mar 25 12:42:15 2026. Oh really? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 25 13:48:21 2026, in response to TSA, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Mar 25 12:12:40 2026. What is the alternative? Going back to private contractors? Do you think they would show up to work if they didn't get paid? |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 25 14:19:59 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 25 13:48:21 2026. Yes. It was fine the way it was before. IMO, and no, I don't blame any TSA for not showing up to work and not getting paid. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Mar 25 14:24:56 2026, in response to TSA, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Mar 25 12:12:40 2026. Show bombers I suppose. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Mar 25 14:36:33 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Mar 25 12:46:58 2026. YEP |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 25 15:21:40 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by chicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 25 14:19:59 2026. No, it wasn't. Although that failure that led to the creation of the TSA was because of policy and not because airport security needed to be nationalized.Private airport security wouldn't be any faster given the heightened requirements. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 25 15:23:01 2026, in response to TSA, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Mar 25 12:12:40 2026. They're being replaced by ICE right now, so stop sweating it.What's your point, though? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 25 16:28:10 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 25 15:21:40 2026. Many people have claimed that the only post-9/11 security improvement that was really critical was that only someone in the cockpit can unlock the cockpit door.They probably aren't completely correct but they may have a pretty good point. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Mar 25 16:55:27 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 25 16:28:10 2026. ... only someone in the cockpit can unlock the cockpit door.Incorrect They probably aren't completely correct... Correct |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Mar 25 17:47:46 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 25 15:21:40 2026. The measures have been to draconian |
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Posted by rkba on Wed Mar 25 23:25:42 2026, in response to TSA, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Mar 25 12:12:40 2026. TSA is comically ineffective. their own reporting indicates huge failure rates when it comes to detecting weapons.it's essentially a government jobs program for the unemployable. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 26 02:56:15 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by rkba on Wed Mar 25 23:25:42 2026. The Traffic Agents (Brownies) of the skies |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Mar 26 08:20:44 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 26 02:56:15 2026. But they were given these snazzy blue uniforms and got a union.That changed everything. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Mar 26 10:01:36 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by chicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 25 14:19:59 2026. Before the TSA a large portion of the workforce doing the screening at many airports, like LAX, were undocumented. It was very noticeable because almost none of those workers qualified for TSA positions. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Mar 26 10:27:11 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Easy on Thu Mar 26 10:01:36 2026. Interesting. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Mar 26 10:47:02 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 25 16:28:10 2026. I would also *like* to think that passengers would fight back against hijackers today, but I fear that they wouldn’t. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 10:54:51 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Easy on Thu Mar 26 10:01:36 2026. Despite my current anti-ICE stance, I really find the prevalence of so many illegal aliens to be offensive.The difference is that I think immigration is useful, and we should have more legal aliens. But no amnesty. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 26 11:58:24 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 10:54:51 2026. IAWTP! After all, my great grandparents came from Ireland to Ellis Island legally. The system worked fine for them. |
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Posted by rkba on Thu Mar 26 14:39:44 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 10:54:51 2026. tl;dr you have TDS. just come out and say it without the bullshit. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 15:02:17 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by rkba on Thu Mar 26 14:39:44 2026. Everything is about Trump with you. You just can't help but worship him and condemn his enemies. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Mar 26 15:51:52 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 10:54:51 2026. We need an immigration moratorium. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 17:45:59 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Mar 26 15:51:52 2026. No, we don't. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Mar 26 18:13:53 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 17:45:59 2026. Yes we do. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Mar 26 18:32:54 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 10:54:51 2026. We need to do as much as we can to get non-criminal people that have useful skills and education here as easily as possible. Essentially what Canada already does even though criticize us when we're much more accepting than they are. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 18:45:51 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Mar 26 18:13:53 2026. No, we don't. I don't like inflation, although I'm OK with automation.That, and some immigrants have high skills, and I for one want them to come here instead of a different country. We need to brain drain the world. |
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Posted by rkba on Thu Mar 26 20:23:35 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 15:02:17 2026. you agree with what ICE does you just pretend to be "anti-ICE" because DJT is president. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Mar 26 21:59:59 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by rkba on Thu Mar 26 20:23:35 2026. I agree with ICE's mission, but like most I don't agree with how they are currently carrying out their mission. They need more nuance and compassion. The problem seems to be that there aren't as many criminal immigrants as Trump believes/believed so their number targets aren't achievable without deporting good people. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 22:38:54 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Easy on Thu Mar 26 21:59:59 2026. Yes. I disagree with the way they’re doing it. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 07:41:45 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 22:38:54 2026. And it's a potential trap for Democrats.The rallying cry needs to be not "Defund ICE" but rather "Reform ICE" (so that they heed the Fourth Amendment). |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Mar 27 10:18:21 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 07:41:45 2026. It's tricky. On one hand the average democratic wants to defund ICE and will find reforming ICE to be unacceptable. Maybe the best position will be to say that ICE is bad but be somewhat ambivalent about totally defunding them. But that risks having a Bernie Sanders or similar swooping in to fracture the party. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 27 10:43:57 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 07:41:45 2026. It could be abolished too. We were fine with the INS and it was equally controversial.The problem, as I see it, is that the other federal policing agencies have powers that involve enforcing criminal laws. ICE is not one of them. It's weird to have a police agency that can detain people for things that are almost entirely not crimes. And then ICE gets to wear fatigues and act like a gendarmerie. Yes, I know that there are law enforcement agencies that deal with things that are not crimes, like the NYC Sheriff, but when was the last time you saw a whole company of them wearing masks and fatigues? The real problem is that there are states and localities that actively interfere with federal immigration law. This needs to be corrected, and NOW. And yes, abuela should be deported. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 27 10:45:48 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Easy on Fri Mar 27 10:18:21 2026. They don't like ICE as an agency but don't think of the consequences of a complete abolition. Most voters of both parties are ignorant fools.Bernie Sanders is a cancer on the Democratic Party. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Mar 27 11:04:24 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 27 10:45:48 2026. As both major parties expand to attract people that haven't traditionally voted in large numbers, they do appear to be getting dumber. And those are often the loudest and ultimately the most influential factions. The crowd that Lucha calls community college intellectuals are winning the elections out here.We'll see what happens and maybe I'm overestimating by what I see online, but in California most millennials and Gen Z are very left and really do want to defund the police and abolish ICE. Their age groups will be running the parties very soon. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 27 11:22:21 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Easy on Fri Mar 27 11:04:24 2026. Do you mean young people are really very left? Millennials are middle aged.Millennials are really the most liberal cohort. Gen Z is full of groypers among the men, whereas the women are to the left of Lenin. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Mar 27 11:57:57 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 18:45:51 2026. bump |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Mar 27 12:22:34 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 27 11:22:21 2026. I meant people in their 20's and 30's, but yeah I can see that millennials may be more liberal than high schoolers and young adults.I live in a mostly white area and I only realized how right some of my neighbors are when Charlie Kirk died and I found out how their kids were into him. But this is just a bubble for greater LA which is majority Hispanic. The people these kids like won't get elected or even make the ballot for most offices. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 12:22:56 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Easy on Fri Mar 27 10:18:21 2026. On one hand the average democratic wants to defund ICE and will find reforming ICE to be unacceptableI believe you are wrong. You don't see Hakeem Jeffries or Chuck Schumer saying "Defund ICE." AOC is not your average Democrat, and I haven't even heard her say it. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 12:24:37 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 27 10:43:57 2026. The real problem is that there are states and localities that actively interfere with federal immigration law.Examples? |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Mar 27 12:26:58 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 12:22:56 2026. I'm open to being wrong, but I'm thinking locally. In LA we have powerful local politicians that have called for ICE to be dismantled or defunded. The fact that hasn't translated into wider elections may mean that I'm wrong or it may mean that we'll know more by this fall. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 27 13:11:47 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Easy on Fri Mar 27 12:22:34 2026. I've noticed a lot of Hispanics on Long Island are pretty conservative. But I guess it depends on where you are, or even perhaps the nation of origin of the Hispanic population |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 27 13:15:49 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 27 11:22:21 2026. I've noticed that some millennials are more liberal than the younger Gen Zs, but it also depends on where they live. But thw discrepancy is true for every generation. I've also noticed, in general, the Gen Xers are more conservative than the Baby Boomers (which are more liberal than the "Silent Generation") before them, so perhaps it alternates every generation |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 13:25:36 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Easy on Fri Mar 27 12:26:58 2026. Of course, many people in LA are likely to know someone who has been deported in contradiction to Trump's stated goal of only deporting criminals. Whereas Schumer and Jeffries probably don't have as many constituents in a similar position. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 27 13:34:10 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Easy on Fri Mar 27 12:22:34 2026. No millennials are in their 20s. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 27 13:35:29 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Mar 27 11:57:57 2026. It's not common sense at all, and is just a recipe for national decline. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 27 13:36:24 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 12:24:37 2026. WTF? Seriously? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 27 14:07:21 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 12:24:37 2026. Are you kidding? |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Mar 27 14:57:20 2026, in response to Re: TSA, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 10:54:51 2026. What a crock of happy horseshit. I.C.E. has nothing to do with legal immigration. Nor does it have to do with legal immigration quotas. I.C.E. is anout an 83 year old American being thrown to the subway tracks and murdered. I.C.E. is about an 18 year old young woman being shot in the head. I.C.E. is about Laken Riley and scores of other victims because democrats want 20 million illegal criminal immigrants that biden and the democrats need to remain in this country and most Americans do not. I.C.E. is about the rule of law. I.C.E. is not about Donald J. Trump.GOD BLESS MIKE JOHNSON. GOD CONDEMN TO HELL HOPSING JEFFRIES AND CHUCK THE SCHMUCK SCHUMER. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Mar 27 14:59:24 2026, in response to TSA, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Mar 25 12:12:40 2026. Looking for another pat on the head, are you? Your memory is terribly short. |
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