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Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jan 25 17:00:47 2026, in response to Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 25 16:47:55 2026.

Why was it necessary? Why did he carry 2 full magazines? Why was his gun equiped to accept a silencer? Clearly he was well prepared to engage law enforcement if the opportunity presented itself.

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Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 25 17:02:21 2026, in response to Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jan 25 16:57:47 2026.

That’s why I’m a liberal. Liberty includes the right to bear arms.

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Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jan 25 17:02:56 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 25 17:00:07 2026.

By getting worse, i presume that more illegals would be captured, unimpeded and shipped out of the country.

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Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jan 25 17:04:43 2026, in response to Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 25 17:02:21 2026.

You continue to inartfully dodge the other points i raised

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Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jan 25 17:04:52 2026, in response to Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 25 17:02:21 2026.

You continue to inartfully dodge the other points i raised

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Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 25 17:09:25 2026, in response to Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jan 25 17:04:52 2026.

You just don’t like the answer.

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Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 25 17:14:54 2026, in response to Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jan 25 15:05:52 2026.

Let the investigation play out

Great idea.

But DHS is blocking the investigation even after a court order from a judge, so that isn't happening.





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Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 25 17:16:16 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jan 25 16:34:26 2026.

He made stupid choices and he paid the price.

What stupid choice did he make? Trying to help a woman up off the ground?



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Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jan 25 17:18:03 2026, in response to Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 25 17:14:54 2026.

Stay tuned.

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Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 25 17:21:45 2026, in response to Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 25 17:02:21 2026.



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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 25 17:48:24 2026, in response to ICE agents shoot woman in Minneapolis thread, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 7 15:12:59 2026.

How To AVOID ICE: 1: Don't come here illegally
2: Don't try to shield illegals
3: Don't attack ICE agents
4: Repeat steps 1-3

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Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jan 25 18:01:18 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 25 17:00:07 2026.

By getting worse, i presume that more illegals would be captured, unimpeded and shipped out of the country.

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Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jan 25 18:02:02 2026, in response to Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 25 17:09:25 2026.

I wont know until you answer.

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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jan 25 18:03:32 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 25 17:48:24 2026.

Reasonable

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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Jan 25 18:04:28 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 25 17:48:24 2026.

I heard that same logic in 1930's Germany. Everyone who helped Anne Frank and her family were considered to be shielding illegals. The murse was doing none of the above.

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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Jan 25 18:06:59 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jan 25 18:03:32 2026.

Yes it is.

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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jan 25 18:11:19 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Jan 25 18:04:28 2026.

So are you comparing the Trump Administration to the Nazis of the 1930s?

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Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 25 18:19:42 2026, in response to Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 25 17:21:45 2026.

Didn’t know you were for gun control.

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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Jan 25 18:35:08 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jan 25 18:11:19 2026.

If the clog fits

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Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Jan 25 19:02:36 2026, in response to Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 25 17:02:21 2026.

🪏🪏🪏

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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 25 20:26:52 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 25 17:48:24 2026.

Nothing anywhere has claimed that Pretti did any of those 3 things.



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Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jan 25 21:05:59 2026, in response to Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 25 11:28:12 2026.

They've been working with ICE for a while in apprehending illegals

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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jan 25 21:31:00 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Jan 25 18:35:08 2026.

Well I'll listen. Go ahead and make your case.

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Re: ICE shoots murderous woman, CBP shoots armed finger-biting lunatic man in Minneapolis

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 25 22:42:54 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jan 25 21:31:00 2026.

Just expect red herrings and emotional appeals.

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Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 25 23:01:51 2026, in response to Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Jan 25 19:02:36 2026.

???

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Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jan 25 23:25:18 2026, in response to Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 25 14:19:44 2026.

TNHIW!!! Lo@lm! They were "deputized" to work Nationwide with ICE. Happens between agencies all the time. The NYPD has Detectives and Supervisors detached to various Federal and State Task Forces. While with them, they get full Federal/State "creds" and are sworn in as Feds. They sometimes even get ID cards.

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Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jan 25 23:27:52 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 25 17:00:07 2026.

I know that you realize that they have a list of specific targeted individuals who they are after?

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Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jan 25 23:29:41 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 25 16:59:22 2026.

Of course they do! You even said so yourself that you want them deported! AND they are going after violent criminals!

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Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jan 25 23:30:02 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 25 17:16:16 2026.

Lo@lm!

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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jan 26 00:23:03 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Jan 25 18:35:08 2026.

Well I'll listen. Go ahead and make your case.

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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 26 00:25:54 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Jan 25 18:04:28 2026.

Godwin's Law rears it's head.

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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jan 26 05:54:08 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 26 00:25:54 2026.

Not every comparison to Nazi Germany is “Godwin’s Law,” but nice attempt to deflect from what is going on here. I was not one to jump up and down after Renee Good’s death, but this one is more egregious. He was legally in possession of a firearm, unless we are suddenly eroding the Second Amendment. He was on the ground and completely disarmed as a clip is useless without the gun to put it in and was shot TEN TIMES.

Turning back to the original point, you can’t tell me that a 5 year old is a dangerous criminal. I have absolutely no problem going jail to jail and rounding up anybody who is incarcerated that is in the country illegally. I am against picking up people at random off the street by masked individuals in unmarked vehicles with no due process and no verification to make sure that they are actually picking up the correct person only that they don’t have the right skin complexion. These people are then shuffled through the ICE detention system so nobody can find out where they are to bring a proper petition in District Court until they are deported to countries like South Sudan where they might not have any prior ties.

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Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 26 09:08:15 2026, in response to Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jan 25 23:25:18 2026.

There is absolutely nothing incorrect about my post. If you feel there are errors in the post I replied to, you should have replied to that post.



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Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 26 09:08:58 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jan 25 23:30:02 2026.

Ah, you can't answer the question.



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Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 26 09:34:13 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jan 25 23:27:52 2026.

They're using that as an excuse, but then they're going after random illegals.

Even that would be OK (because they're illegal, fuck 'em), but they also do "profiling" and hassle citizens and legal aliens, and even entrap aliens who go to the immigration office for legitimate appointments.

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Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 26 09:35:12 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jan 25 23:29:41 2026.

I don't want violent criminals deported! I want them imprisoned! Why do you want to see criminals go free?

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Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jan 26 09:43:31 2026, in response to Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 25 14:21:20 2026.

."...not wanting to call it murder though."

I agree. By legal definition, murder requires intent. I doubt very much that those ICE people woke up in the morning saying that their intention was to kill any anyone no less a demonstrator.
IMO, no jury anywhere would come back with a murder conviction if it went that far.

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Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jan 26 09:46:00 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 26 09:35:12 2026.

I agree. If simply deported they would find way to come back as has happened time and time again.

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Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 26 09:58:15 2026, in response to Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jan 26 09:43:31 2026.

You're only describing premeditated murder. The intent element of murder is satisfied by a reckless disregard for human life.

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Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 26 10:42:53 2026, in response to Re: 1057;1042;1056; agents shoot man in Minneapolis thread, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 26 09:58:15 2026.

premeditated murder

I still remember first hearing the phrase "murder with malice aforethought" as being the charge against Lee Harvey Oswald. Which of course implies there can be other types of murder.




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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 26 10:54:47 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 25 17:48:24 2026.

ICE agents are law enforcement heroes who risk their lives to protect Americans from gang members, drug traffickers, and terrorists. Abolishing ICE insults these brave officers and endangers our country.

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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 26 10:56:47 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 26 10:54:47 2026.

If they’re law enforcement, why the fuck do they wear camo?

We already have police and federal agents who protect us from those things.

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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 26 11:07:08 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 26 10:56:47 2026.

To fuckin protect their fucken identity and their fuckin family.


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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jan 26 11:09:59 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 26 10:56:47 2026.

How do you manage to still walk and chew gum. I.C.E. agents are not there to "protect" us. They are there to capture and deport illegal invaders. They are there to protect those operations and their fellow agents. They wear camo because that is the uniform that they are issued and they are assigned to wear rather than tuxedos.

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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 26 11:26:54 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jan 26 11:09:59 2026.

lol

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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 26 11:42:48 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 26 10:54:47 2026.

Reminder that ICE wouldn't be very necessary if Biden hadn't let over 13 MILLION illegals into the country. Dems caused this problem.

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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jan 26 11:54:17 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 26 11:42:48 2026.

Let's not forget how Buyden screwed all of those people too. Pretending to let them in, but legally not paroling them so they can never do anything.
The cruelist system of them all.

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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 26 12:36:49 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 26 11:07:08 2026.

Police where you don't know their identities are secret police, which exist only in tyrannical shitholes.

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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 26 12:38:07 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jan 26 11:09:59 2026.

If they're not there to protect us, they are not "law enforcement" and thus do not belong in this country.

Why then are they assigned camo? So they could be rendered invisible in an urban environment?

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Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 26 12:42:08 2026, in response to Re: ICE agents shoot woman and man in Minneapolis thread, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 26 11:42:48 2026.

It isn't necessary even for that.

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