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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 31 23:29:17 2025 What an ending to game 6 of The World Series. Game 7 is tomorrow. Anyway, I think there are only a few teams with national appeal. "National teams". Teams with a national fan base. Maybe an international appeal. Yankees Dodgers Red Sox Cubs Mets Braves
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Nov 1 07:31:24 2025, in response to Baseball, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 31 23:29:17 2025.* St Louis
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Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Sat Nov 1 09:06:55 2025, in response to Baseball, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 31 23:29:17 2025.*
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Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Sat Nov 1 09:08:27 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Nov 1 07:31:24 2025.* More so than the Braves. Braves supposedly became America's team because of TBS.
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Nov 1 11:56:56 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Nov 1 07:31:24 2025.* I don't think The Cardinals have a strong national base. They had their moment mainly when Pujols was their big star and hitting home runs. Why do you say Cardinals?
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Nov 1 11:59:26 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 1 09:08:27 2025.* Yup. Braves definitely built a base on TBS. Mets on WOR.
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Posted by Easy* on Sat Nov 1 13:00:30 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 1 11:59:26 2025.* TBS was the first and biggest of the local stations to become “superstations”. Everyone with cable had TBS. Not as much for WOR and WGN. Plus CNN played a role as they were more Atlanta-centric with news in the 80’s. Also Atlanta was good then with Glavine, Smoltz, Justice, Maddox, etc. But all of that was a long time ago. I have no idea whether the Atlanta Braves are still popular due to those things. Baseball has become much less popular overall. Which cities are still MLB first cities? Maybe LA although that’s a toss up with the Lakers. Probably NYC and a few others. But most of the country is NFL first now.
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Nov 1 14:03:51 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 1 13:00:30 2025.* You're right about TBS going national and bringing The Braves into many cable homes. And the money generated, and national exposure, attracted good players. I think Boston is a baseball first city. MLB caps are very popular because men are balding younger.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sat Nov 1 14:34:03 2025, in response to Baseball, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 31 23:29:17 2025.* Viewership is down from last year.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Nov 1 14:42:29 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 1 09:08:27 2025.* TBS is the only reason.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Nov 1 14:44:55 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 1 11:56:56 2025.* St. Louis is one of the most successful clubs of all time. They certainly do have a national base. More than the Mets.
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE* on Sat Nov 1 14:48:46 2025, in response to Baseball, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Oct 31 23:29:17 2025.* And it would be a black eye to our national passtime if a team 3rd world team from a 3rd world country does win the World Series. Go Dodgers. KEEP AMERICA'S PASSTIME IN AMERICA>/center>
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Nov 1 14:48:51 2025, in response to Re: Beisbol, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 1 14:34:03 2025.* That’s understandable
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Nov 1 15:10:08 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Nov 1 14:42:29 2025.* TBS is so interesting. It definitely gave the Braves a national audience But it was Georgia Championship Wrestling that made the station a success. WOR wasn't in as many homes but still had millions of subscribers and paud the Mets higher rights fees. This allowed the Mets to sign better players and win a World Series. Steinbrenner was pissed because the Yankees didn't have a Superstation and missed that boat. Yes, WPIX tried to go national but failed.
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Nov 1 15:12:01 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Nov 1 14:44:55 2025.* Interesting.
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Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Sat Nov 1 15:21:08 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Nov 1 14:48:46 2025.* Thank you. IAWTLP
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Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Sat Nov 1 15:21:39 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 1 11:59:26 2025.* Cubs WGN.
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Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Sat Nov 1 15:22:49 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 1 13:00:30 2025.* Cubs are more popular than the Bears.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Nov 1 16:30:21 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 1 15:10:08 2025.* I don’t think your assessment of the Mets and WOR is accurate. The overwhelming majority of the ‘86 team was homegrown talent through the farm system and drafting and the rest were trades. The one guy they signed was George Foster and he was released in August 86. And don’t call this post an attack because it’s not.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Nov 1 16:31:34 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 1 15:22:49 2025.* I like the Bears much more than the Cubs. But I’m an American League guy so I like the White Sox way more than the Cubs.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Nov 1 16:36:56 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 1 15:12:01 2025.* I had to go out to St Louis for a bachelor party because the groom to be was a big time Cardinals fan. I drove. Everyone else flew. But that’s besides the point. These are NYC people by the way. I know my desk train master uncle was a St Louis fan as well. That goes back to the 40s and 50s. And keep in mind that St Louis is second all time as World Series champs with 11. •New York Yankees lead overwhelmingly with 27 World Series titles, won between 1923 and 2009. • The St. Louis Cardinals are second with 11 titles, the most in the National League. • The Boston Red Sox and Oakland Athletics each have 9 titles. • The San Francisco Giants have 8 titles. • The Los Angeles Dodgers have 7 titles, including their time as the Brooklyn Dodgers. • The Cincinnati Reds and Pittsburgh Pirates each have 5 titles. • Other notable teams include the Atlanta Braves and Detroit Tigers with 4 titles each, and several teams with 3 or fewer titles.
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Nov 1 17:29:28 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Nov 1 16:30:21 2025.* Keith Hernandez.
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Nov 1 17:34:05 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 1 17:29:28 2025.* Gary Carter.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Nov 1 18:47:42 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 1 17:29:28 2025.* St Louis couldn’t wait to get rid of him and his cocaine issues. Sent to the last place Mets from the defending World Champs at the June 15 trading deadline in 1983 for Neil Allen and maybe some other minor leaguers. It was a punishment
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Nov 1 18:49:19 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 1 17:34:05 2025.* Great trade the Mets pulled off in acquiring Carter from Montreal for Mike Fitzgerald and I think Floyd Youmans and Hubie Brooks. Not a free agent signing.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sat Nov 1 19:41:20 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Nov 1 16:31:34 2025.* Just like the Pope.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Nov 1 20:23:50 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 1 19:41:20 2025.* Is that right?
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Nov 1 20:33:18 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Nov 1 18:49:19 2025.* I still think WOR helped the Mets. Revenue and exposure outside the NYC Metro region.
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Nov 1 20:36:07 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Nov 1 18:47:42 2025.* You're right. Keith sure benefited from the change. Being in NY, and still active as an announcer.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Nov 1 22:05:18 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 1 20:33:18 2025.* The Doubleday and Wilpon regime was tightfisted. The Mets got healthy the very old fashioned way. The Mets extraordinary pitching got them to the 1986 chip. Not spending from tv.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Nov 1 22:06:52 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 1 20:36:07 2025.* That is true. The Pittsburgh trials may have scared the shit out of him straight too.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Nov 1 22:53:05 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 1 17:29:28 2025.* Here is the transaction that brought Keith Hernandez to the Mets in ‘83 Traded by St. Louis Cardinals to New York Mets in exchange for Neil Allen and Rick Ownbey (June 15, 1983). Source: Retrosheet.org
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Nov 1 22:56:01 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 1 17:34:05 2025.* From retrosheet.org Traded by Montreal Expos to New York Mets in exchange for Hubie Brooks, Mike Fitzgerald, Herm Winningham and Floyd Youmans (December 10, 1984).
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Nov 2 00:25:22 2025, in response to Re: Beisbol, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Nov 1 14:48:51 2025.* Not fond of Google putting fireworks graphics when you do a search for "dodgers" on there . . . (probably one day, so I'll count my blessings)
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sun Nov 2 00:42:03 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 1 14:03:51 2025.* I've called them "basebald caps" for a while. The totally bald guys just shave their head (and grow a goatee). The guys with hair only wear them when they want. The balding guys have them glued to their heads, never taking them off
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sun Nov 2 00:46:42 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Nov 1 14:48:46 2025.* Word!
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Sun Nov 2 00:55:27 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 2 00:42:03 2025.* I'm about to order some basebald caps online. Gotta measure my head first.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sun Nov 2 01:03:00 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 2 00:55:27 2025.* Go to Chinatown!
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Nov 2 01:09:54 2025, in response to Re: Baseball, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 2 01:03:00 2025.* If there's anything about Chinatown I miss, it's their roast duck.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Sun Nov 2 07:24:32 2025, in response to Re: Beisbol, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 2 00:25:22 2025.* It’s silly
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