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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 28 12:53:39 2025, in response to Daylight Saving Time, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 28 12:44:37 2025. Post of the day. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 28 12:55:45 2025, in response to Daylight Saving Time, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 28 12:44:37 2025. All states should stay on standard time. For a while, I lived in a state that did that. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Oct 28 13:02:33 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 28 12:53:39 2025. False. The best time of the year is coming up where the clock goes back to where it should be. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 28 13:45:09 2025, in response to Daylight Saving Time, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 28 12:44:37 2025. I 💙 ESTI feel like I’m on constant jet lag during the summer. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 28 13:46:16 2025, in response to Daylight Saving Time, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 28 12:44:37 2025. Why are we talking about this again. I thought about this being a topic on here this morning when I heard on the news DST ends this weekend. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 28 13:49:17 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 28 13:46:16 2025. It's because it comes up twice every year during the time changes. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 28 13:55:56 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 28 13:46:16 2025. Only thing I don't like about standard time is that sunset is at 4:30 pm on the winter solstice. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 28 14:06:53 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 28 13:55:56 2025. But if you had daylight time, then the sun would rise at 8:15 AM instead. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Oct 28 14:23:46 2025, in response to Daylight Saving Time, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 28 12:44:37 2025. I still don't know what's the problem with the half-hour in the middle all year long.Anyway, it's really only the people furthest north that really have their days thrown off badly by the sunrise/sunset times but those people are used to the irregularities already and having it revised by an hour doesn't matter much. (For example, in Scotland if the sun's going to rise at 4:30a.m. in July it really doesn't matter if it rises at 3:30a.m. instead -- they will have invested in shades anyway in order to not get woken up). |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 28 14:26:04 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Oct 28 13:02:33 2025. Leave it one way or the other. Changing time is ridiculous. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 28 14:30:12 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 28 13:49:17 2025. I know. It’s the same convo. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 28 14:30:51 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 28 13:55:56 2025. On the flip side I enjoy the chase to March 21 and June 21 after that. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Oct 28 15:10:21 2025, in response to Daylight Saving Time, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 28 12:44:37 2025. They should leave it one way or the other, straight answer. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 28 15:36:51 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Oct 28 14:23:46 2025. What would that solve? In the case of New York, we're only 1 degree off from dead center of our time zone.The way I see it is that for most of the year, we're expected to change our schedules to do everything that we do an hour earlier than you would otherwise do it. Your proposal would change it to 30 minutes, but make it year round so we don't have to change it twice a year. But why? Why should we lie about the time to make everyone do everything earlier? If you run a business, change your opening and closing times. Set your alarm to half an hour earlier and do everything accordingly. Daylight Saving, even permanent daylight saving, is just a massive lie. I'll grant you that there are places where the local time is just wrong, but that's a product of our use of standard time zones, where I would argue that the benefits of such a scheme outweigh the disadvantages. Maybe some time zone borders need to be shifted (Spain should not use Central European Time). |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Oct 28 16:46:45 2025, in response to Daylight Saving Time, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 28 12:44:37 2025. I agree. Standard Time all year round! |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Oct 28 17:46:00 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 28 15:36:51 2025. Daylight Saving, even permanent daylight saving, is just a massive lie.Almost everyone's time is a bit of a lie, of course. Large portions of the US have considerable DST even in winter because our time zones extend much too far west. See western TX and ND. The best solution would be to redraw the time zone boundaries in a way that most people can tolerate all year long. But that never even comes up for discussion. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 28 18:45:08 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 28 17:46:00 2025. I mentioned Spain as an example, but I already said that in my post. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Oct 28 19:13:38 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 28 18:45:08 2025. Do you have any insight as to why moving the time zone boundaries gets no discussion at all?There's really no commercial or social reason for Van Horn TX to be in the same time zone as Austin and Dallas when it could just as well be with El Paso and Albuquerque. And of much greater significance, why doesn't all of Indiana just move to be with Chicago? |
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Posted by Dand124 on Tue Oct 28 22:10:04 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 28 19:13:38 2025. And of much greater significance, why doesn't all of Indiana just move to be with Chicago?Farmers don't like want to do it. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Oct 28 23:32:36 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Oct 28 14:26:04 2025. It gives atheist something to look forward to since they have no other seasons or holidays to celebrate. All they got is the time change, or they'd have nothing to make a change of pace. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Oct 28 23:38:21 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Oct 28 15:10:21 2025. I never understand the big deal, I barely ever have such a crisis issue like people online have been making it lately.You know how many days/weekends that I lose or gain an hour of sleep due to stress/illness/noisy neighbors/neighbors yelling and doing drugs/early work days and late workdays the next/split shifts etc? Or normal people who stay up late on the weekends, and get up early on Mondays. They self-inflict jet-lag weekly. The "case of the Monday's" is actually jet-lag. If people were robots or farmers getting up at the same time everyday it would be logical. But no one is. Complaining about the clocks, which mostly set themselves today is outdated and silly. I have an analog clock on the wall, that I bought on purpose, that I have to change. Otherwise, every smart home device, tv, computer, phone, smart watch, air filter, light bulb, vacuum, Tesla, Optimus bot, radio, computer monitor, thermostat are all changing their own clocks. The complaints are oudated. |
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Posted by Displaced Angeleno on Wed Oct 29 01:27:28 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 28 13:55:56 2025. While the winter solstice is the shortest day of the year in the Northern Hemisphere, it doesn’t have the earliest sunset. It differs a little bit by latitude, but in New York the earliest sunset is around December 7th or 8th.By the solstice, we’ve already gained ~2.5 minutes of afternoon sun from the earliest sunset. The latest sunrise comes in early January, and by then, New York has gained back 14 minutes of afternoon sun |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 29 04:59:36 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Oct 28 23:38:21 2025. i forgot about 3am firetrucks and ambulances. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 29 08:42:26 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Dand124 on Tue Oct 28 22:10:04 2025. Why would that be? The ET portion of Indiana have like 45 minutes of equivalent DST in the winter and 1:45 in the summer. Sounds inconvenient to me. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 29 09:20:45 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 29 08:42:26 2025. Most places that switched to Eastern in the 1940's and 1950's should switch back to central. If you learn the history, you will see the reasons no longer exist, it is very old fashioned and outdated, and is as obsolete as the discussion over the time change itself.Hint, that portion of Indiana, like other carve-outs did so for TELEGRAMS. Let's revert the map before we schvitz over the one hour change, which shouldve already occured last week like it was pre-Bush. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 29 09:59:39 2025, in response to Daylight Saving Time, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 28 12:44:37 2025. My wake-up alarm goes off when I have to pee.With less day light I find I do more driving when it is Dark. Since having cataracts removed from both eyes, I've taken to wearing Yellow tinted range glasses at night. They cut down glare from oncoming cars. Only my microwave and stove clocks need to be reset. Now this thread can end. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 29 12:21:10 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Oct 28 23:38:21 2025. Its not a big deal for me. Just an annoying adjustment that takes me a few days to get used to. Your reaction seems to show that its a big deal for you. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 29 14:52:13 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 29 12:21:10 2025. Wait until it's spring when they start posting articles about how that one hour leads to heart attacks.bullshit. Do you think he cares about the time change the way the lamestream media does when he loses sleep every week? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 29 15:27:50 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 29 09:59:39 2025. You wouldn't need the yellow glasses so much if not for those high-intensity discharge (HID) bulbs. Those hurt my eyes even still, and the yellow lenses only help to a degree. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 29 15:31:03 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 29 14:52:13 2025. I've been hearing this bullshit 2x a year for a long time. In one ear and out the other. The topic gets a few notices then goes away...like clockwork! |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 29 15:39:47 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Oct 29 09:59:39 2025. I had One of these in my last car. Not sure why I haven't got a new one, but it was ok. |
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Posted by Dand124 on Wed Oct 29 21:07:20 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 29 08:42:26 2025. Farmers get up with the sun no matter what time it is. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 29 21:30:08 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Dand124 on Wed Oct 29 21:07:20 2025. Huh? How is that an explanation for farmers in most of Indiana wanting excess amounts of daylight time (that is, the clock shows an hour later at sunrise than it does in western IN)? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 29 22:04:40 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 29 12:21:10 2025. It’s Congress forcing me to wake up an hour early every weekday for 8 months. It’s immoral. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 29 22:13:40 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 29 22:04:40 2025. You'll live. This is not a burning issue in front of Congress these days. If that's the worst of your problems, then you are a lucky man. |
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Posted by Dand124 on Wed Oct 29 23:38:29 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 29 21:30:08 2025. It allows them to sleep and hour later and still wake up at sunrise. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 30 09:18:59 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 29 22:04:40 2025. 1. You could seek out an employer who allows flex time.*2. You could lobby the state to eliminate DST. f HI and most of AZ can opt out, why not NY? * Much as I like the concept of flex time, I find I can do my job better by being generally available between 9 and 5. I would prefer working from 7:30 to 4:00, but I would be a less effective employee if I weren't around to respond to requests from colleagues and clients until at least 5. After 5, anyone who tries to contact me knows that they're not guaranteed to get a response, but if they ask for something at 4 they expect that they would hear back the same day, even if the answer is "I don't have time until tomorrow." |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 30 09:24:10 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Dand124 on Wed Oct 29 23:38:29 2025. While farmers in the northwest and southwest corners of the state have to get up an hour earlier. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 30 09:55:07 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 29 22:13:40 2025. It actually is. Sen. Scott of Florida is pushing a bill to make daylight permanent, while Sen. Cotton is opposed.I don’t care that “I’ll live.” You know that I hate the “there are worse things in the world” argument. This problem is easily solvable. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 30 09:58:24 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 30 09:18:59 2025. But then the court system still opens at 9:30 local time. So they’re forcing me to go to court at 8:30 Actual Time for most of the year.And your last paragraph really points out the problem. You can accommodate yourself however you want, but other people aren’t going to charge for you, instead our elected representatives decided decades ago to trick all of us into starting work early. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 30 11:12:37 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 30 09:55:07 2025. This problem is easily solvable.It's not easily solvable. Time zones need to be redrawn so that relatively few people are in an extreme situation with too much or too little effective DST. And redrawing time zones will be incredibly difficult. Any change will bring a raft of complaints. And it's always easier to do nothing than to make changes that will bother some people, even if on the whole the changes are preferred by a majority. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Oct 30 11:50:01 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 29 15:27:50 2025. I love 'em! |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Oct 30 11:50:03 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 29 15:27:50 2025. I love 'em! |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Oct 30 11:51:37 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 29 15:39:47 2025. Kewl, that'll work. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Oct 30 11:53:23 2025, in response to Re: Daylight Saving Time, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 30 09:55:07 2025. Very few think that its an actual "problem". Its more like a minor annoyance and/or inconvenience that folks get over in a week or two like they have been doing for the last 100 years or so. |
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