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Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 24 16:42:48 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 24 15:33:16 2025. ...and lopped off a few heads for those that protested on a "No Kings Day" |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 24 16:49:42 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 24 16:40:04 2025. Except for the major renovations during the Truman administration, none of these other changes were significant.In the case of the Truman renovations, that was done by Congress. Remember Congress? |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Oct 24 16:51:05 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 24 16:08:33 2025. Well Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!¡!!!!!!! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 24 17:44:41 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 24 16:49:42 2025. Apparently congressional approval is not a requirement. Where is it written that it is??But lets not overlook the big picture here. The only way (IMO) this makes sense that Trump is going thru all the major renovations out of his own pocket and his donors (and not taxpayers) is that he's expecting to serve a 3d term. And that will never happen. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 24 18:01:11 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 24 17:44:41 2025. Where is it written that it is?It's "owned" by the National Park Service, not by Donald J. Trump. So why can't Trump have Teddy Roosevelt replaced on Mount Rushmore with himself, as long as private funds pay for it? |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 24 18:15:38 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 24 16:49:42 2025. I wish Mr. Johnson and Mr. Thune would remember Congress. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 24 18:33:12 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 24 18:01:11 2025. Don't give him any ideas. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 24 21:07:15 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 24 17:44:41 2025. Article I, section 8, clause 17. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 06:59:40 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 24 21:07:15 2025. Thank you.I'm sure that Trump will contend that the East Wing wasn't a "needful building," and at least Thomas and Alito will agree. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 25 11:35:00 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 06:59:40 2025. It really has nothing to do with it being needful.There’s a reason why all of the powers of the entire federal government are listed as being powers of Congress specifically, it’s the superior branch of government, none of that coëqual shit. If Congress didn’t authorize it, then the president can’t do it. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 14:14:32 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 25 11:35:00 2025. It really has nothing to do with it being needful.Doesn't the text imply that Congress doesn't necessarily have jurisdiction over non-needful buildings? To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 25 14:43:30 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 14:14:32 2025. The East Wing wasn’t in a state and in any event you’re putting too much emphasis on the word “needful.”Where in Article II does the president have the power to do anything whatsoever with the property of the US Government? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Oct 25 18:35:53 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 24 21:07:15 2025. What you cite does not specifically address the issue of any remodeling or otherwise prevent the President from making judgement calls on what can be done or not done to the White House. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 19:20:22 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Oct 25 18:35:53 2025. OK, so he can destroy TR's carving on Mount Rushmore, just of his own volition, right? And if you disagree, how does that case differ? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 26 10:42:19 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Oct 25 18:35:53 2025. Why does it have to specifically address that? The Constitution doesn’t enumerate it as one of the president’s powers, so it’s not. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Oct 26 13:52:12 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 24 11:29:07 2025. This is such a nonissue. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Oct 26 14:14:34 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Oct 26 13:52:12 2025. Compared to the billions of dollars worth of signed contracts he has unilaterally abrogated, I agree. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 26 14:36:02 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Oct 26 13:52:12 2025. How is it a nonissue? It might be an unimportant thing by itself, but it’s an example of the president doing whatever he wants. First this, then something much worse. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Oct 26 15:11:24 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 26 14:36:02 2025. I knew you or Al would say that. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Oct 26 16:18:59 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 26 14:36:02 2025. First this, then something much worse.I would say he already has done much worse. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 26 18:36:24 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 24 11:29:07 2025. I don't recall you complaining about the same with Clinton or Obama. You are likely too young to remember some of the others! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Oct 26 21:41:31 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 19:20:22 2025. There's still room for his carving along side the others. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Oct 26 22:17:09 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Oct 26 21:41:31 2025. No, there isn't. There are deep fissures on either side of the existing carving. I'm not expert but saw a piece on TV about it. If they were to try, the whole thing would crumble. I think the rock on one side of the fissures differs from the carved face rock. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Oct 26 22:23:30 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 19:20:22 2025. Thats just stupid and you know it. Lets try to keep it real shall we?? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Oct 26 22:36:33 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by bingbong on Sun Oct 26 22:17:09 2025. They can get rid of Jefferson and replace it with Trump's! |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Oct 26 23:14:31 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Oct 26 22:23:30 2025. AlM is as phoney as they come. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 27 01:12:13 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 26 18:36:24 2025. What part of the White House did Clinton or Obama demolish? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 27 01:15:55 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Oct 26 22:23:30 2025. It’s federal property. You seem to believe the president can do whatever he wants with it. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Oct 27 01:23:33 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 19:20:22 2025. lo@lm!Um, why are you(and many who post here) all worked up about Trump making renovations for the 250th birthday of the United States of America? You didn't mind when Obama built basketball courts. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 27 07:19:06 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Oct 26 22:23:30 2025. Huh?How do they legally differ? Two government properties administered by the National Park Service. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 27 07:19:57 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Oct 27 01:23:33 2025. I'm worked up because I question his authority to make this decision. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Oct 27 08:43:30 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by AlM on Mon Oct 27 07:19:57 2025. Well then you are a fucking idiot because all through history, presidents have made major structural and cosmetic changes to the white house. I seem to remember a swimming pool that was filled it to build a press office. You are a ball-less phoney looking for another reason to criticize Trump |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Oct 27 09:38:43 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by AlM on Mon Oct 27 07:19:06 2025. If Trump wanted to go that route, with his ego he'd have his own mountain not sharing the stage with anyone. But you and I know that will never happen. Trump just likes to "poke the bear" by saying stuff that he knows will piss off the TDS/leftist types. That's in his DNA. And they always take the bait. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Oct 27 09:45:23 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Oct 27 09:38:43 2025. Exactly |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Oct 27 11:11:18 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Oct 27 01:23:33 2025. I agree. Don't we have bigger fish to fry in this country then worrying about a ballroom installation in the White House? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 27 11:51:01 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Oct 27 08:43:30 2025. Except for the Truman renovations, which were authorized by Congress, none of those were nearly as significant.This is an entirely justifiable reason to criticize Trump. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 27 11:55:31 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Oct 27 11:11:18 2025. This is always the excuse that people bring up, "aren't there more important things?"Well, that's bullshit. You CAN pay attention to everything the government does all of the time. Besides, if people stopped paying attention to the "unimportant" things, then they would fester and become big problems. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 27 11:58:51 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Oct 27 09:38:43 2025. This isn't just talk, it's action. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 27 17:54:18 2025, in response to MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DEMOLISHES WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Oct 23 17:19:22 2025. So now it turns out that they did the demolition without taking any precautions for asbestos. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 27 18:44:57 2025, in response to Re: MR DONALD JOHN TRUMP DOES NOT DEMOLISH WHITE HOUSE !!, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 27 17:54:18 2025. LOL. That possibility was immediately commented on. All demolitions (except this one) take forever because of the asbestos. |
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